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I have been watching his cookery thing and love seeing his garden. It
seems quite big and he does seem enthusiastic about growing stuff.
He's also visited a few allotments in the last lot of programs (before
christmas) and cooked on the plot.

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Bob Hobden wrote:

But, annoyingly, he keeps talking about supper, who has supper these days?


Or, alternatively, who has dinner every night these days? :-)

Is he confused with Dinner or just trying to be trendy (syn, stupid) in
calling Dinner Supper.
Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Supper is how it used to go, but then I come from
an age when you did indeed have a light forth meal each day late in the
evening and that was supper. Usually cheese, cold meats, pickles and bread.
But then a lot of people worked physically very hard.


Er, you do know that this is a Class Thing, don't you? The terms used
for evening meals were (and, to some extent, still are) very different
in the different classes - as were the times and styles of said meals.

Personally, I opted out of that whole damn exclusion ritual nearly 50
years ago, and have never regretted it.


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Er, you do know that this is a Class Thing, don't you? The terms used
for evening meals were (and, to some extent, still are) very different
in the different classes - as were the times and styles of said meals.


Quite right. Everyone knows it's breakfast, dinner, tea and (possibly)
supper.


Cue for Clees, Barker and Corbett - in my view, one of the best satires
on the British class system of all time - and the competition is strong.


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On Jan 5, 4:29*pm, wrote:
In article , CT wrote:

Er, you do know that this is a Class Thing, don't you? *The terms used
for evening meals were (and, to some extent, still are) very different
in the different classes - as were the times and styles of said meals.


Quite right. *Everyone knows it's breakfast, dinner, tea and (possibly)
supper.


Cue for Clees, Barker and Corbett - in my view, one of the best satires
on the British class system of all time - and the competition is strong.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


This depends on your life style, Breakfast, Lunch, Afternoon tea, High
Tea, Dinner, Supper.
If you have afternon tea then you tend to go to Dinner, but if you
have Lunch then High Tea at around 6pm then you follow with Supper
just before bed time.
And if the staff are off for the night then you get what you can when
you can.
And it's a bugger having to dress for dinner when you can't get your
wellies off.
I know if I eat early in the evening then I need Supper if I am going
to sleep well.
But who cares, whats in a name, it's the food that counts.
David


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Dave Hill wrote:

This depends on your life style, Breakfast, Lunch, Afternoon tea, High
Tea, Dinner, Supper.


Not to say, Croust.


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Not to say, Croust.


Oh, I always cut them off. I'm posh, me!

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In article , Sacha wrote:

I don't remember having 'supper' last thing at night when I was young.


The oldest convention for it that I know of was the meal that, er,
gentlemen took before going to bed and after playing cards. The
main evening meal was dinner - not eaten before 7 pm, of course!
But I believe that died out in the early 19th century, as a fairly
widespread practice.

As Judith said, the usage persisted for the meal that children
were given before going to bed when they had been fed earlier
(sometimes called high tea). But not everwhere.

Remember that the British class system wasn't a simple ranking,
and different communities had different conventions.


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Dave Hill writes
And it's a bugger having to dress for dinner when you can't get your
wellies off.



What? One doesn't actually take one's wellies off oneself does one?

Next thing you'll be telling us you haven't already got your dinner
clothes laid out for you ready when you come in from the dahlias!
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