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Here are 2 pictures of Un-named Lilacs I have the long leaf is the one
is the mystery one that I have never had name for.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ownLilac01.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ownLilac02.jpg
And at last My yellow Rhodos have flowered, bought them as very young
plants 3 years ago, when they were in bud I thought I had been sold
pink, but they have matured out as good yellow flowers.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ellowRhodo.jpg
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On May 7, 12:13*pm, Dave Hill wrote:
Here are 2 pictures of Un-named Lilacs I have the long leaf is the one
is the mystery one that I have never had name for.http://i240.photobucket..com/albums/...ownLilac02.jpg
And at last My yellow Rhodos have flowered, bought them as very young
plants 3 years ago, when they were in bud I thought I had been sold
pink, but they have matured out as good yellow flowers.http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ellowRhodo.jpg
David




Looks as if no one has any ideas about the Lilac then.
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On Sun, 8 May 2011 06:45:30 -0700 (PDT), Dave Hill
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On May 7, 12:13*pm, Dave Hill wrote:
Here are 2 pictures of Un-named Lilacs I have the long leaf is the one
is the mystery one that I have never had name for.http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ownLilac02.jpg
And at last My yellow Rhodos have flowered, bought them as very young
plants 3 years ago, when they were in bud I thought I had been sold
pink, but they have matured out as good yellow flowers.http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ellowRhodo.jpg
David




Looks as if no one has any ideas about the Lilac then.


I'm not a lilac "eggspert" by any means but wonder if the white one is
Syringa Emodi - an image in my copy of "The Botanical Garden" looks
just like the flowers. Can't help with the pink one other than it
looks like a vulgaris in the same book. If you manage to identify it,
let me know - I'd like one to replace the extremely leggy unnamed
lilac I was given years ago of which the scent is the only redeeming
feature.
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Here are 2 pictures of Un-named Lilacs I have the long leaf is the one
is the mystery one that I have never had name for.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ownLilac01.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ownLilac02.jpg
And at last My yellow Rhodos have flowered, bought them as very young
plants 3 years ago, when they were in bud I thought I had been sold
pink, but they have matured out as good yellow flowers.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ellowRhodo.jpg



The white one looks a bit like.. Syringa emodi
The lilac coloured one... Syringa josikaea
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On May 8, 3:07*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2011-05-08 14:45:30 +0100, Dave Hill said:

UnknownLilac01.jpg


I can't open the files, Dave. I don't think I'd be much help if I could
but maybe someone here would know it.
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Sacha try the links again, I've removed the posting with the bad link,
if no go I'll email the pictures to you.
Thanks Bob, but I am doubtfull about Syringa emodi as the leaves are
slim, 7cm long and 2 cm wide


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On Sun, 8 May 2011 12:44:32 -0700 (PDT), Dave Hill
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On May 8, 3:07*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2011-05-08 14:45:30 +0100, Dave Hill said:

UnknownLilac01.jpg


I can't open the files, Dave. I don't think I'd be much help if I could
but maybe someone here would know it.
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Sacha try the links again, I've removed the posting with the bad link,
if no go I'll email the pictures to you.
Thanks Bob, but I am doubtfull about Syringa emodi as the leaves are
slim, 7cm long and 2 cm wide


"Botanical Garden" says leaves are about 8-9cm long/3cm wide max but
"RHS Dictionary" says emodi leaves can be up to 15cm long. Who knows?
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On May 8, 10:11*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2011-05-07 12:13:16 +0100, Dave Hill said:

Here are 2 pictures of Un-named Lilacs I have the long leaf is the one
is the mystery one that I have never had name for.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ownLilac01.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ownLilac02.jpg
And at last My yellow Rhodos have flowered, bought them as very young
plants 3 years ago, when they were in bud I thought I had been sold
pink, but they have matured out as good yellow flowers.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ellowRhodo.jpg
David


They're all beautiful. *I've printed the photos but are you *quite*
sure the first is a Lilac? *It looks a bit like a Jasmine - angulare,
perhaps? *I apologise because this does sound like trying to teach my
grandmother etc.!
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I learned to blow eggs and not suck them at quite an early age.
It is most definatly Lilac,
A lilac coloured multi flowered shrubby Jasmin?
Now that would be quite a find.
You will find Lilac has 4 petals per flower,
Jasmin has 6.
Nice thought though.
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On May 9, 12:30*am, Sacha wrote:
On 2011-05-08 23:58:00 +0100, Sacha said:





On 2011-05-08 22:29:06 +0100, Dave Hill said:


On May 8, 10:11*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2011-05-07 12:13:16 +0100, Dave Hill sa
id:


Here are 2 pictures of Un-named Lilacs I have the long leaf is the one
is the mystery one that I have never had name for.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ownLilac01.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ownLilac02.jpg
And at last My yellow Rhodos have flowered, bought them as very young
plants 3 years ago, when they were in bud I thought I had been sold
pink, but they have matured out as good yellow flowers.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ellowRhodo.jpg
David


They're all beautiful. *I've printed the photos but are you *quite*
sure the first is a Lilac? *It looks a bit like a Jasmine - angulare,
perhaps? *I apologise because this does sound like trying to teach my
grandmother etc.!
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I learned to blow eggs and not suck them at quite an early age.
It is most definatly Lilac,
A lilac coloured multi flowered shrubby Jasmin?
Now that would be quite a find.
You will find Lilac has 4 petals per flower,
*Jasmin has 6.
Nice thought though.


Am I looking at the wrong pic? The flowers I'm seeing are entirely
white with rather long tubes which are flushed very faintly pink. The
number of petals per flower isn't entirely clear and the flowers are
quite individually spaced and seem largeish. *The leaves are opposite
and a long oval. That's unknown lilac O1 *Then there's another pic of a
very pink four petalled floriferous lilac with heart-shaped leaves,
with well defined veins and undulating edges to the leaves? That's
unknown lilac 02.


PS Should have said that this pic shows one sprig of flowers, not a
large, lilac-type head, as in pic 2.
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Here are 2 new pics for you Sacha
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ownLilac03.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ownLilac04.jpg
I'll have to try some cuttings this year.
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On May 15, 3:19*pm, Sacha wrote:
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On May 8, 3:07*pm, Sacha wrote:
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id:


UnknownLilac01.jpg


I can't open the files, Dave. I don't think I'd be much help if I could
but maybe someone here would know it.
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South Devon


Sacha try the links again, I've removed the posting with the bad link,
if no go I'll email the pictures to you.
Thanks Bob, but I am doubtfull about Syringa emodi as the leaves are
slim, 7cm long and 2 cm wide


Is this the same plant? *If so, Ray can't remember thename but thinks
it's Something nepaulensis that he was given to him a few years ago. *
Ours is now about 8' tall now and is in full flower, just starting to
go over but also still with buds on it.http://i55.tinypic.com/2ivcn6u.jpg
I'm going to send the pics to Phil Clayton at The Garden and see if he
knows it or knows a man that does!
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Yours seems to have wider leaves and larger panicles of flower but it
looks as if they are relatives, or just different strains.
Looking at this site http://www.lottah.com/lilacs/images.htm the
nearest is S. x persica, from what I can see of the one leaf showing
S. x persica AGM Small, panicles of scented, lilac flowers in May.
Leaves are narrow, pointed and mid to dark green, deciduous. Height a
slender branched shrub to about 2 metres. Spread 1.5to 1.8 metres.
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On May 17, 2:05*pm, Sacha wrote:
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On 2011-05-15 23:13:28 +0100, Sacha said:


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Is this the same plant? *If so, Ray can't remember thename but thinks
it's Something nepaulensis that he was given to him a few years ago. *
Ours is now about 8' tall now and is in full flower, just starting to
go over but also still with buds on it.http://i55.tinypic.com/2ivcn6u.jpg
I'm going to send the pics to Phil Clayton at The Garden and see if he
knows it or knows a man that does!
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Yours seems to have wider leaves and larger panicles of flower but it
looks as if they are relatives, or just different strains.
Looking at this sitehttp://www.lottah.com/lilacs/images.htm*the
nearest is S. x persica, from what I can see of the one leaf showing
S. x persica AGM Small, panicles of scented, lilac flowers in May.
Leaves are narrow, pointed and mid to dark green, deciduous. Height a
slender branched shrub to about 2 metres. Spread 1.5to 1.8 metres.


They do seem remarkably similar. *If I hear back from Phil, I'll post
his answer, obviously. *Otherwise, I could always send you a sprig from
ours for comparison. *I'll see what Phil comes *up with in the next
couple of days.


Just received this:


"Hi Sacha, Mike Grant, our resident botanist and I had a look at the
mystery lilac here- it looks most like Syringa x josiflexa to us,
although it is probably not 'Bellicent' -the colour is wrong-
apparently other selections exist but are not widely grown. I’ll send
to Roy as well- he is away at the mo. "


So what do you think, Dave? Does that sound/look possible to you for
your plant, being a cousin of this one?
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Sorry Sacha I that that was yours, The leaves are much to broad for
mine, still have L. persica as the closest
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