On May 15, 2:02*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2011-05-15 12:09:25 +0100, harry said:

On May 14, 8:00*pm, "alan.holmes" wrote:
"harry" wrote in message
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I did email the OP to ask what the hell is a PV but have not had any
sensible reply!

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All you have to do is google it. Is that too difficult for you?

Perhaps we should hope that when you're even older and nastier than you
are now, you, too, will have memory problems. *And I hope that someone
will treat you as nastily as you've just treated Alan.

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Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

Your pretty nasty yourself aren't you?

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On May 15, 2:02 pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2011-05-15 12:09:25 +0100, harry said:

On May 14, 8:00 pm, "alan.holmes" wrote:
"harry" wrote in message
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I did email the OP to ask what the hell is a PV but have not had any
sensible reply!

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All you have to do is google it. Is that too difficult for you?

Perhaps we should hope that when you're even older and nastier than you
are now, you, too, will have memory problems. And I hope that someone
will treat you as nastily as you've just treated Alan.

--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

Your pretty nasty yourself aren't you?

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:-)) Giving me a rest so pinging in on someone else.

Just a pattern over the years.

There has to be someone.

Kind regards

Mike

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"Jake" Nospam@invalid wrote in message
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On Sat, 14 May 2011 20:00:36 +0100, "alan.holmes"
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"harry" wrote in message
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On May 13, 5:27 pm, "'Mike'" wrote:
"harry" wrote in message

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On May 13, 5:20 pm, harry wrote:

I have started a group about PV panels if anyone has them or is
considering getting them. Please join & recount experiencse/
questions.

Damn. Forgot to put the link in!
;-0http://groups.google.com/group/feed-in-tariff-uk-pv-panels/topics?start=

:-((

This looks to me as if someone is advertising something on urg. Nobody
EVER
does that do they?

Mike

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No advertising. Just for information exchange. I have one myself and
lots are popping up all over the place including taking up quite large
areas of peoples gardens. This due to the high prices on gets for
electrcicty generated.
They are not without interesting problems

I did email the OP to ask what the hell is a PV but have not had any
sensible reply!

Alan


Something like "photo voltaic" panels perchance? Posh for "solar" I
think ;-))

But how does that help with gardening?

Alan



Cheers

Jake

"harry" wrote in message
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On May 14, 8:00 pm, "alan.holmes" wrote:
"harry" wrote in message

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On May 13, 5:27 pm, "'Mike'" wrote:





"harry" wrote in message

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On May 13, 5:20 pm, harry wrote:

I have started a group about PV panels if anyone has them or is
considering getting them. Please join & recount experiencse/
questions.

Damn. Forgot to put the link in!
;-0http://groups.google.com/group/feed-in-tariff-uk-pv-panels/topics?start=

:-((

This looks to me as if someone is advertising something on urg. Nobody
EVER
does that do they?

Mike

--

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It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.
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No advertising. Just for information exchange. I have one myself and

lots are popping up all over the place including taking up quite large
areas of peoples gardens. This due to the high prices on gets for
electrcicty generated.
They are not without interesting problems

I did email the OP to ask what the hell is a PV but have not had any
sensible reply!

Alan- Hide quoted text -

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All you have to do is google it. Is that too difficult for you?
It is a device that converts sunlight into electricity.
It usually takes the form of roof mounted panels.

I have trouble with goggle, in that you usually get about 1,000 options,and
while I do have a lot of patience, the rubbish you get from goggle does not
help.

And, how does that help with gardening?

Alan

"alan.holmes" wrote in message
news

"Jake" Nospam@invalid wrote in message
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On Sat, 14 May 2011 20:00:36 +0100, "alan.holmes"
wrote:


"harry" wrote in message
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On May 13, 5:27 pm, "'Mike'" wrote:
"harry" wrote in message

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On May 13, 5:20 pm, harry wrote:

I have started a group about PV panels if anyone has them or is
considering getting them. Please join & recount experiencse/
questions.

Damn. Forgot to put the link in!
;-0http://groups.google.com/group/feed-in-tariff-uk-pv-panels/topics?start=

:-((

This looks to me as if someone is advertising something on urg. Nobody
EVER
does that do they?

Mike

--

...................................
It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.
...................................

No advertising. Just for information exchange. I have one myself and
lots are popping up all over the place including taking up quite large
areas of peoples gardens. This due to the high prices on gets for
electrcicty generated.
They are not without interesting problems

I did email the OP to ask what the hell is a PV but have not had any
sensible reply!

Alan


Something like "photo voltaic" panels perchance? Posh for "solar" I
think ;-))

But how does that help with gardening?

Alan



"""Thread drift""" I was informed by the 'Authority :-(

Mike

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On May 15, 2:02 pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2011-05-15 12:09:25 +0100, harry said:

On May 14, 8:00 pm, "alan.holmes" wrote:
"harry" wrote in message
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I did email the OP to ask what the hell is a PV but have not had any
sensible reply!

Alan- Hide quoted text -

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All you have to do is google it. Is that too difficult for you?

Perhaps we should hope that when you're even older and nastier than you
are now, you, too, will have memory problems. And I hope that someone
will treat you as nastily as you've just treated Alan.

--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

Your pretty nasty yourself aren't you?

I just hope that when, and if, you grow up and get old you do not meet too
many people like yourself!

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On May 15, 1:59 pm, Martin Brown
wrote:
On 14/05/2011 19:11, harry wrote:





On May 14, 9:18 am, Martin
wrote:
On 13/05/2011 17:21, harry wrote:

On May 13, 5:20 pm, wrote:
I have started a group about PV panels if anyone has them or is
considering getting them. Please join& recount experiencse/
questions.

Damn. Forgot to put the link in! ;-0
http://groups.google.com/group/feed-.../topics?start=

Looks genuine enough and not selling anything so please don't give the
OP too hard a time.

People who are on the previous much less generous FIT contract are
livid
about the new more generous deal not being available to early adopters.
And have accumulated experience of running them and in this case online
realtime and historic data. eg.

http://www.viridis.net/energy/solar-pv.html

I am thinking about installing PV at the moment - not because I believe
they will save the planet (at this latitude PV is crazy) but because it
provides a viable long term return on investment!

I will probably join and pass the link on to a few friends who already
have PV arrays and/or campaign for energy efficiency and green energy.
I
hope you do manage to get enough critical mass to share experiences.

Regards,
Martin Brown

It's only a money thing with me. It's a lot better deal than leaving
money in the bank to rot these days. The return in my case is
projected to be 11.5%.
Only been running for three weeks but it looks achievable. But only a
full year will tell for sure.

If you can give a monthly average or quarterly average and the angle of
slope and azimuth of your roof it should be possible to give a pretty
good independent guestimate of average annual output using old solar
power tables I have from Kew from the 1970's (first oil shock era).

I need to do 10kwh/day average over the whole year. So far about 19kwh/
day. Obviously things will not be as good in Winter but should
improve as days lengthen.

If that was for April then it is probably atypical but puts a rough
lower bound on your annual average output at around 12kWh/day.

An interesting quirk in winter on sunny days is that efficiency is
higher because the cells stay cold. The days are short though...

A lot of the solar powered "please go round the bend" and "danger ice"
signs up here die a horrible death in the cold dark winters which is
when they are most needed. They are almost always dead in the water on
cold frosty mornings. One not far away often has a car embedded in the
exit point from the bend. Another failed to prevent someone embedding
their car into a house on the bend.

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The highest daily KWh so far is 29.
The lowest has been 9.6 (rain).
The average is down to 18Kwh with this cloudy weather of the last
week.
Hopefully things will buck up this next few months.
We do all the washing, baking. cooking etc on sunny days at midday
when possible.

And how does washing, baking and cooking help with gardening?

Alan

On Sun, 15 May 2011 20:09:11 +0100, "alan.holmes"
wrote:


"Jake" Nospam@invalid wrote in message
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On Sat, 14 May 2011 20:00:36 +0100, "alan.holmes"
wrote:
hope I've pruned right

I did email the OP to ask what the hell is a PV but have not had any
sensible reply!

Alan


Something like "photo voltaic" panels perchance? Posh for "solar" I
think ;-))

But how does that help with gardening?

Alan

Now that's a totally different question Alan. I must leave that to
others to answer though would guess that as solar energy generation is
better for the environment, and the environment has a significant
impact on gardens, there's a link there somewhere.

Cheers

Jake

On May 15, 8:12*pm, "alan.holmes" wrote:
"harry" wrote in message

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On May 14, 8:00 pm, "alan.holmes" wrote:





"harry" wrote in message

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On May 13, 5:27 pm, "'Mike'" wrote:

"harry" wrote in message

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On May 13, 5:20 pm, harry wrote:

I have started a group about PV panels if anyone has them or is
considering getting them. Please join & recount experiencse/
questions.

Damn. Forgot to put the link in!
;-0http://groups.google.com/group/feed-in-tariff-uk-pv-panels/topics?start=

:-((

This looks to me as if someone is advertising something on urg. Nobody
EVER
does that do they?

Mike

--

...................................
It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.
...................................
No advertising. Just for information exchange. I have one myself and

lots are popping up all over the place including taking up quite large
areas of peoples gardens. This due to the high prices on gets for
electrcicty generated.
They are not without interesting problems

I did email the OP to ask what the hell is a PV but have not had any
sensible reply!

Alan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
All you have to do is google it. Is that too difficult for you?

It is a device that converts sunlight into electricity.
It usually takes the form of roof mounted panels.

I have trouble with goggle, in that you usually get about 1,000 options,and
while I do have a lot of patience, the rubbish you get from goggle does not
help.

And, how does that help with gardening?

Alan- Hide quoted text -

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You need to select your words more carefully.
If you have problems with too many wrong answers, add more words to
your wordsearch, this narrows it down.

PV solar panels technology gives quite a good result.

I find Wikipedia a good place to start with many things. It's pretty
good with science and technology I find. Even good with gardening
topics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gardening

It's possible to have a ground mounted array if your roof is
unsuitable. This would go in most people's garden. In most case it
would be the dominent feature. I have a nieghbour with a huge one.

Just remember that in other countries where they gave them generous feed-in tariffs to start with, and they started to pop up everywhere, and thus start to cost the rest of the country significant amounts of money subsidising them, they eventually reduced the feed-in tariff quite substantially.

"harry" wrote in message
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On May 15, 8:12 pm, "alan.holmes" wrote:
"harry" wrote in message

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On May 14, 8:00 pm, "alan.holmes" wrote:





"harry" wrote in message

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On May 13, 5:27 pm, "'Mike'" wrote:

"harry" wrote in message

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On May 13, 5:20 pm, harry wrote:

I have started a group about PV panels if anyone has them or is
considering getting them. Please join & recount experiencse/
questions.

Damn. Forgot to put the link in!
;-0http://groups.google.com/group/feed-in-tariff-uk-pv-panels/topics?start=

:-((

This looks to me as if someone is advertising something on urg. Nobody
EVER
does that do they?

Mike

--

...................................
It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.
...................................
No advertising. Just for information exchange. I have one myself and

lots are popping up all over the place including taking up quite large
areas of peoples gardens. This due to the high prices on gets for
electrcicty generated.
They are not without interesting problems

I did email the OP to ask what the hell is a PV but have not had any
sensible reply!

Alan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
All you have to do is google it. Is that too difficult for you?

It is a device that converts sunlight into electricity.
It usually takes the form of roof mounted panels.

I have trouble with goggle, in that you usually get about 1,000
options,and
while I do have a lot of patience, the rubbish you get from goggle does
not
help.

And, how does that help with gardening?

Alan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You need to select your words more carefully.
If you have problems with too many wrong answers, add more words to
your wordsearch, this narrows it down.

PV solar panels technology gives quite a good result.

I find Wikipedia a good place to start with many things. It's pretty
good with science and technology I find. Even good with gardening
topics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gardening

It's possible to have a ground mounted array if your roof is
unsuitable. This would go in most people's garden. In most case it
would be the dominent feature. I have a nieghbour with a huge one.


I still have not had an answer to the question, what has this to do with
gardening, bearing if mind it was posted in a gardening newsgroup?

Alan

"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 2011-05-15 19:21:54 +0100, harry said:

On May 15, 2:02 pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2011-05-15 12:09:25 +0100, harry said:

On May 14, 8:00 pm, "alan.holmes" wrote
:
"harry" wrote in message
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I did email the OP to ask what the hell is a PV but have not had any
sensible reply!

Alan- Hide quoted text -

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All you have to do is google it. Is that too difficult for you?

Perhaps we should hope that when you're even older and nastier than you
are now, you, too, will have memory problems. And I hope that someone
will treat you as nastily as you've just treated Alan.

--
Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

Your pretty nasty yourself aren't you?

To nasty people, yes. You qualify.

Too true!

Alan