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Poor old Farmers ............ again :-(
On Jun 3, 11:27*am, "Ian B" wrote:
Sacha wrote: On 2011-06-03 10:55:57 +0100, Martin said: On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:52:39 +0100, Sacha wrote: On 2011-06-03 10:46:03 +0100, Martin said: On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:20:49 +0100, "Ian B" snip The fact that a guy wants with all his heart to be a dairy farmer, because his dad was, and his grandad, that just doesn't matter to the ultimate end buyer in Sainsburys. As the market seeks out the cheapest suppliers, Sainsburys woman gets cheaper milk, and that's all she's going to care about. If these people go out of business, we're all long-term winners, not long-term losers. It's why economic growth happens, and we can all afford to spend money on fripperies like our gardens; because over the centuries, millions of people lost their businesses and jobs. It's harsh, but better than the alternatives by far. Report back after your job has been transferred to a third world country. Oh dear, how very true. *;-( In this case, hopefully :-) Ugh - I don't want to see anyone lose their job! *But if we don't support our small businesses, we know what the outcome will be. *How often do I hear or read of people who can only buy supplies easily if they buy from supermarkets. *We're so lucky here in having many small shops still popular and doing well, a milkman who delivers and brings the papers, too. *Long may it last. *I really don't want all my choice of meat or veg dictated by a supermarket's pricing and buying regime. Well, after Martin's devastating smackdown there I'm truly devastated. Really, this conversation is utterly depressing. It's not so much that people don't know about economics- that's fair enough, they have lots of other things to do. It's the dogged, pig-headed refusal to both understand, but to hold opinions anyway. It's like somebody who's never studied physics, saying, "time runs at different speeds, don't be silly!" Try this. I live in Northampton. Let's say there's this guy Bob, and he lives in Cardiff. And we both sell roses. And Bob's roses are cheaper than mine. So, Northampton Town Council get together and they say, "Ian's business is being transferred to Wales! Let's protect Ian and ban all rose imports from outside Northamptonshire! That'll work!". So, that's good for me. Now I can sell expensive roses. But what about everybody else? They are being denied Bob's cheaper roses. The result is *fewer roses in Northampton*. It's not a net benefit. It's a net loss. Now try doing that to every part of the economy; milk, motor cars, lawnmowers, meat, fish... do you see what happens? The people of Northampton just get poorer and poorer. You are inducing scarcity, not wealth. Do you see? Ian- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's you that doesn't understand politics. You are in Lala land. The ulitmate in short termism. Are you a banker? Not everything is about money. You are a sad bugger if you think it is so. |
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