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O.T. myxi.
are we supposed to report myxomatosis or let it take its course, any one
know ? kate Gloucestershire |
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O.T. myxi.
On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:46:34 +0100, Kate Morgan wrote:
are we supposed to report myxomatosis or let it take its course, any one know ? JFGI "notifiable diseases animal" http://archive.defra.gov.uk/foodfarm.../atoz/notifiab le.htm There is also: http://animalhealth.defra.gov.uk/man...iable-disease/ But that appears to miss out the notifiable diseases that have never been seen in the UK. -- Cheers Dave. |
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O.T. myxi.
are we supposed to report myxomatosis or let it take its course, any one know ? JFGI "notifiable diseases animal" http://archive.defra.gov.uk/foodfarm.../atoz/notifiab le.htm There is also: http://animalhealth.defra.gov.uk/man...iable-disease/ But that appears to miss out the notifiable diseases that have never been seen in the UK. -- Cheers Dave. Thank you both, my Defra site isn't working this morning but I will try again later. its a horrible disease. I have found a big old rabbit this morning and two little ones , I have put them into the cool long grass. kate |
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O.T. myxi.
"Malcolm" wrote in message ... In article o.uk, Dave Liquorice writes On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:46:34 +0100, Kate Morgan wrote: are we supposed to report myxomatosis or let it take its course, any one know ? JFGI "notifiable diseases animal" http://archive.defra.gov.uk/foodfarm.../atoz/notifiab le.htm There is also: http://animalhealth.defra.gov.uk/man...iable-disease/ But that appears to miss out the notifiable diseases that have never been seen in the UK. Myxi does not appear to be listed and I'm certain it isn't notifiable. It's been endemic in Britain for decades. -- Malcolm Indeed it has, and as it was deliberately introduced by the government in the first place it would be silly to have it as a notifible disease! -- Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella and Lapageria rosea cvs http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk |
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O.T. myxi.
"Malcolm" wrote in message ... In article o.uk, Dave Liquorice writes On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:46:34 +0100, Kate Morgan wrote: are we supposed to report myxomatosis or let it take its course, any one know ? JFGI "notifiable diseases animal" http://archive.defra.gov.uk/foodfarm.../atoz/notifiab le.htm There is also: http://animalhealth.defra.gov.uk/man...iable-disease/ But that appears to miss out the notifiable diseases that have never been seen in the UK. Myxi does not appear to be listed and I'm certain it isn't notifiable. It's been endemic in Britain for decades. I have not seen it since I was a child in the 60's. If it is not notifiable now, it should be. It's a terrible thing. |
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O.T. myxi.
Myxi does not appear to be listed and I'm certain it isn't notifiable. It's been endemic in Britain for decades. I have not seen it since I was a child in the 60's. If it is not notifiable now, it should be. It's a terrible thing. We saw quite a few myxi rabbits round here up to a few years ago. I don't know if the disease is still in these parts but I haven't seen a rabbit with it for a couple of years. -- My daughter took one of the little suffering rabbits and our vet confirmed that is was indeed Myxi. It is possible that some will survive but there is nothing that we can do for them :-( kate Gloucestershire |
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On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 00:41:39 +0100, Christina Websell
wrote: http://archive.defra.gov.uk/foodfarm.../atoz/notifiab le.htm Myxi does not appear to be listed and I'm certain it isn't notifiable. As it's not in those Defar lists it isn't. It's been endemic in Britain for decades. Endemic isn't really a criteria for being notifiable. it's more down to how lethal and easy to spread it is. See how some diseases on the notifiable list have never (yet...) been seen in the UK. Rinderpest is also listed and that has been, officially, eradicated globally since 25th May 2011. I have not seen it since I was a child in the 60's. If it is not notifiable now, it should be. It's a terrible thing. Why should Defra spend their money on a disease of an non native pest species by making mxyi notifiable? A disease that (AFAIK) does not impact any stock animals. Saw a mxyi rabbit somewhere around here the other month. The last couple of sever cold spells has given the local rabbit population a hefty knock back, far more than the mxyi ever has. Rabbits are developing an immunity to it. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 13:31:30 +0100, Malcolm wrote:
Endemic isn't really a criteria for being notifiable. what I was trying to say was that notifying it would be pointless, not least because it has been endemic for decades and therefore no-one is interested in being told about its occurrence. So no one is interested in being told about Bovine TB or Scrapie? -- Cheers Dave. |
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I think it's cyclic. It spreads more easily when the rabbit population is higher so the rabbits are in close contact. Then when the rabbit population has decreased as a result, it can't spread so well, so the rabbit population builds up again, and then it can spread again sop you have another obvious outbreak.
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O.T. myxi.
On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 12:14:18 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote: On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 00:41:39 +0100, Christina Websell wrote: http://archive.defra.gov.uk/foodfarm.../atoz/notifiab le.htm Myxi does not appear to be listed and I'm certain it isn't notifiable. As it's not in those Defar lists it isn't. It's been endemic in Britain for decades. Endemic isn't really a criteria for being notifiable. it's more down to how lethal and easy to spread it is. See how some diseases on the notifiable list have never (yet...) been seen in the UK. Rinderpest is also listed and that has been, officially, eradicated globally since 25th May 2011. I have not seen it since I was a child in the 60's. If it is not notifiable now, it should be. It's a terrible thing. Why should Defra spend their money on a disease of an non native pest species by making mxyi notifiable? A disease that (AFAIK) does not impact any stock animals. It certainly does affect farmed and pet rabbits. And it's only a pest when it isn't being properly managed -- which, I grant you, is nearly always. It's potentially valuable for food and fur. Saw a mxyi rabbit somewhere around here the other month. The last couple of sever cold spells has given the local rabbit population a hefty knock back, far more than the mxyi ever has. Rabbits are developing an immunity to it. Yes, but, I wonder, does the disease also mutate? The late Thurlow Craig used to say that some rabbits lived mostly above ground, and as a result were less vulnerable to the infection (as, I believe, are hares). I've no idea if this theory is borne out by the evidence; but an above-ground lifestyle would also leave the animals extremely vulnerable to hard winters. -- Mike. |
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O.T. myxi.
"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.co.uk... On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 00:41:39 +0100, Christina Websell wrote: http://archive.defra.gov.uk/foodfarm.../atoz/notifiab le.htm Myxi does not appear to be listed and I'm certain it isn't notifiable. As it's not in those Defar lists it isn't. It should be. If you haven't seen a rabbit dying of myxi, you should. Their eyes are so swollen up they cannot see and it affects their limbs also. They lie about in the countryside waiting to die and then the crows see them. I truly thought we didn't have it now. When I was younger, around 13 I got very interested in wildlife and my friend was the same. We were always out in the countryside, studying frogs and newts and birds and stuff and then we found these dying rabbits. We wondered what to do. My friend said, well we are out here miles from anywhere so what should we do, should we kill them because they are in agony?" I was a wimp at the time and was not in favour of doing it, but I agreed in the end and we found a rock to bang their heads on. It's not something that 13 yo's should have to do and I think it's a disgusting man-made disease that we should be ashamed of and I am horrified that it's here again. If you have wild rabbits that are a problem, either shoot them yourself or get someone in that can. Tina Tweed |
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On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 22:24:43 +0100, Christina Websell wrote:
... I think it's a disgusting man-made disease ... I didn't think genetic engineering dated back to the late 1800's when it was first discovered. Humans have spread it in an effort to control rabbit populations but humans didn't make it. I am horrified that it's here again. It's never gone away, since it arrived in the UK in the 50's. I suspect you are suffering trauma from your early teens experience. Nature is red in tooth and claw. Rabbits are not native to the UK, they are a pest. Shooting is not practical around here with well over 100 square miles of open moor with rabbits present. Traffic (about four road kills within 100yds of the house yesterday morning) and the recent hard winters have checked the population a little but if we have mild winters it'll get out of control again. The buzzards can only take so many and mxyi isn't that prelevant up here, the population may well be immune. -- Cheers Dave. |
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