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Yesterday the OH and me were in the front garden doing some weeding when a
chap came to me, treading on plants and with a dodgy attitude asked if I wanted him to fix my roof! I said there is nothing wrong with the roof and if there was I could fix it. He went on to ask if I wanted the garden digging! Then did I want the plastic window frames cleaning! He wouldn't take no for an answer. Unknown to me the OH recognised him from last year when he was stealing wheelie bins and rang the police. While undesired man and me were talking OH passed me the phone out of the window and was surprised to be talking to the police(as I didn't know she had rang them). I quickly got the gist and gave them a reg. no. of a pickup truck which I thought must have been his, he ran off immediatly. 6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars. I feel like giving in! For F**ks sake. We both have to go to work tomorrow. Baz |
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"Baz" wrote in message ... Yesterday the OH and me were in the front garden doing some weeding when a chap came to me, treading on plants and with a dodgy attitude asked if I wanted him to fix my roof! I said there is nothing wrong with the roof and if there was I could fix it. He went on to ask if I wanted the garden digging! Then did I want the plastic window frames cleaning! He wouldn't take no for an answer. Unknown to me the OH recognised him from last year when he was stealing wheelie bins and rang the police. While undesired man and me were talking OH passed me the phone out of the window and was surprised to be talking to the police(as I didn't know she had rang them). I quickly got the gist and gave them a reg. no. of a pickup truck which I thought must have been his, he ran off immediatly. 6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars. I feel like giving in! For F**ks sake. We both have to go to work tomorrow. Baz Well you asked for that didn't you? Couldn't you have used a bit more tact? Be polite to him, get rid of him THEN call the Police!!! Mike -- .................................... Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive. .................................... |
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On 2011-08-07 08:15:44 +0100, Baz said: Yesterday the OH and me were in the front garden doing some weeding when a chap came to me, treading on plants and with a dodgy attitude asked if I wanted him to fix my roof! I said there is nothing wrong with the roof and if there was I could fix it. He went on to ask if I wanted the garden digging! Then did I want the plastic window frames cleaning! He wouldn't take no for an answer. Unknown to me the OH recognised him from last year when he was stealing wheelie bins and rang the police. While undesired man and me were talking OH passed me the phone out of the window and was surprised to be talking to the police(as I didn't know she had rang them). I quickly got the gist and gave them a reg. no. of a pickup truck which I thought must have been his, he ran off immediatly. 6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars. I feel like giving in! For F**ks sake. We both have to go to work tomorrow. Baz What a horrible thing to happen. It's only upside is that the police have his reg.no. and know he's operating in your area. CCTV camera installation, perhaps? There is a neighbour across the road who has a CCTV and the police are investigating now, but the vehicle is stolen sadly. This individual is known to the police by description, and his method. Thats all the police will say. Where to get tyres is top of my list now. The price is mad as well with callout charges. Good to have neighbours, we are taking my wheels to a tyrefitting sevice, but Reikha's car is going to a recovery service and hopefully the insurance will sort it today. What a bloody mess. It couldn't come at a worse time financially. With the bodywork damage it is almost certain both cars will be written off. While I have been writing this the insurance company have allocated us courtsey cars and to wait for confirmation of the details. So its wheels back on. Can it be so easy? I hope so, Reikha has been on the phone all morning so far. I wonder how this is going to affect our policies, money wise next renewal. I dare not think about it. What a mess. Again while writing, a neighbour has had "foul" put through his letterbox last night or early this morning. Disgusting. The police are taking this more seriously now. Baz |
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On 2011-08-07 09:25:30 +0100, Martin said: On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 08:48:38 +0100, Sacha wrote: On 2011-08-07 08:15:44 +0100, Baz said: Yesterday the OH and me were in the front garden doing some weeding when a chap came to me, treading on plants and with a dodgy attitude asked if I wanted him to fix my roof! I said there is nothing wrong with the roof and if there was I could fix it. He went on to ask if I wanted the garden digging! Then did I want the plastic window frames cleaning! He wouldn't take no for an answer. Unknown to me the OH recognised him from last year when he was stealing wheelie bins and rang the police. While undesired man and me were talking OH passed me the phone out of the window and was surprised to be talking to the police(as I didn't know she had rang them). I quickly got the gist and gave them a reg. no. of a pickup truck which I thought must have been his, he ran off immediatly. 6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars. I feel like giving in! For F**ks sake. We both have to go to work tomorrow. Baz What a horrible thing to happen. It's only upside is that the police have his reg.no. and know he's operating in your area. CCTV camera installation, perhaps? We have had tyres slashed too. Our new car has no spare wheel just a sophisticated puncture outfit made for holes less than 3mm. I spotted this after I had bought the car. The salesman said a survey had shown that customers didn't need a spare wheel anymore! !! What utter madness. When I picked up a horseshoe nail in one tyre, I certainly needed a spare. I've had 3 puncture altogether with this car, having never had one in my life before! Both our cars have a spacesaver which is a wheel with a very basic tyre, just enough to get out of trouble I hear. I might be wrong but OH(Ford Focus) car has self inflating wheels which as the name suggests inflates the tyre after a puncture. Like you Sacha I have never had a puncture, but when needed.... Baz |
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On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 08:23:47 +0100, Mike wrote:
6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars. Well at least you should be able to report it to the Police and they might be able to use the information against him *if* they ever manage to get a case that will stick. Unforunantely your case won't "I woz in me 'van asleep wiv' the missus". Report it and get a crime number and contact your insurance co. Then keep a (short) sharp knife with you and if you ever see his pickup you know what to do... Or even a box of matches. Fold one in half, take off the valve cap jam in the match, snap off protusion, loosely replace valve cap. Takes time though... Or a valve insert remover but the sharp knife across the base of valve stem is qite effective. Super glue in the locks... I wonder if the avengers handbook is still out there on the 'net? Lots hints and tips about how "to get ones own back" when the normal routes fail. Well you asked for that didn't you? Couldn't you have used a bit more tact? Be polite to him, get rid of him THEN call the Police!!! Quite, remember this type of person does not regard the law as any form of barrier to any thing they want to do. Don't let the law get in your way either, just don't get caught! -- Cheers Dave. |
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On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 09:43:39 +0100, Sacha wrote:
We have had tyres slashed too. Our new car has no spare wheel just a sophisticated puncture outfit made for holes less than 3mm. I spotted this after I had bought the car. The salesman said a survey had shown that customers didn't need a spare wheel anymore! !! What utter madness. When I picked up a horseshoe nail in one tyre, I certainly needed a spare. Most customers are townies, shed horseshoe nails are bit rare in towns... Also most people these days wouldn't even know how to change a wheel, assuming they know where the spare and/or the jack is located. Chatting to the AA man who came out to me the other week (failed injector, so real breakdown) he said that changing wheels kept him in a job. I've had 3 puncture altogether with this car, having never had one in my life before! That seems a bit odd. All in the same make/model of tyre? Some tread patterns seem worse at picking things up than others. A soft compound or less than ideal steel belting may let things in, "budget" tyres? -- Cheers Dave. |
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Martin wrote in
: On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 09:43:39 +0100, Sacha wrote: On 2011-08-07 09:25:30 +0100, Martin said: On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 08:48:38 +0100, Sacha wrote: On 2011-08-07 08:15:44 +0100, Baz said: Yesterday the OH and me were in the front garden doing some weeding when a chap came to me, treading on plants and with a dodgy attitude asked if I wanted him to fix my roof! I said there is nothing wrong with the roof and if there was I could fix it. He went on to ask if I wanted the garden digging! Then did I want the plastic window frames cleaning! He wouldn't take no for an answer. Unknown to me the OH recognised him from last year when he was stealing wheelie bins and rang the police. While undesired man and me were talking OH passed me the phone out of the window and was surprised to be talking to the police(as I didn't know she had rang them). I quickly got the gist and gave them a reg. no. of a pickup truck which I thought must have been his, he ran off immediatly. 6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars. I feel like giving in! For F**ks sake. We both have to go to work tomorrow. Baz What a horrible thing to happen. It's only upside is that the police have his reg.no. and know he's operating in your area. CCTV camera installation, perhaps? We have had tyres slashed too. Our new car has no spare wheel just a sophisticated puncture outfit made for holes less than 3mm. I spotted this after I had bought the car. The salesman said a survey had shown that customers didn't need a spare wheel anymore! !! What utter madness. When I picked up a horseshoe nail in one tyre, I certainly needed a spare. I've had 3 puncture altogether with this car, having never had one in my life before! Ignoring slashed tyres, we have been averaging a puncture a year, mainly from wood screws which I suspect vandals have screwed into the tyres. Things have got better since the local yob has found a job. Let me tell you that this has scared us both half to death here, the scroat has crept up during the night and caused thousands of pounds worth of damage and we didn't hear a thing. Imagine if he wanted to do US harm. I don't know where the money is going to come from but we have to get some quality recordable security here. Today if I can. The police are going to talk with us later on today about security. Baz |
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On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 08:45:50 GMT, Baz wrote:
There is a neighbour across the road who has a CCTV and the police are investigating now, but the vehicle is stolen sadly. Bother, forget about the revenge. B-( This individual is known to the police by description, and his method. Thats all the police will say. The Police usually do know the local "no goods" very well, trouble is getting enough evidence to make a case stick to the scum. With the bodywork damage it is almost certain both cars will be written off. For insurance purposes. As this is only cosmetic damage you could buy the cars from the insurance company if they write them off and get the damage repaired (or do it yourself). *A lot* less hassle than having to find two replacement cars at short notice, or dashing out to get a couple of £500 "good runners" to tide you over until you find the cars you want. While I have been writing this the insurance company have allocated us courtsey cars and to wait for confirmation of the details. So its wheels back on. Can it be so easy? Well you may have to wait until the hire car co opens on Monday. If the cars are going in for body work with the insurers approved place the body shop will provide the courtsey car. I wonder how this is going to affect our policies, money wise next renewal. I've had "protected no claims" for years so not up to speed on the current rules. It used to be you got a 10 to 15% discount for each year without a claim up to around 5 years. If you made a claim you lost one of those years and the associated discount. As I say I don't know if that is still how it works. Shopping around for car insurance each year is normally worth while, compared to just blindly accepting their renewal offer. Again while writing, a neighbour has had "foul" put through his letterbox last night or early this morning. Disgusting. The police are taking this more seriously now. Human or animal? I hope they sample it and run DNA test, they might be able to get a link between him (or his pet) and at least that. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 09:24:27 GMT, Baz wrote:
Let me tell you that this has scared us both half to death here, the scroat has crept up during the night and caused thousands of pounds worth of damage and we didn't hear a thing. Imagine if he wanted to do US harm. I can understand that but that isn't this scums modus operandi is it? He might be a big, burly, intimdating bloke who you wouldn't want to pick a fight with but inside he is as yellow as canary. Hence coming back in the wee small hours just to mindlessly damage your property. I don't know where the money is going to come from but we have to get some quality recordable security here. Today if I can. Keep that knee still if you can. There are quite complex rules around CCTV recordings and having them as admisable evidence. Also a system that can produce images that can be used to positively identify some one from 20' won't be cheap... -- Cheers Dave. |
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On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 10:16:20 +0100, Sacha wrote:
People like that should be made to pay up out of wages, social security payments, or by the sale of their own property, wherever possible. In his case, he'd probably be beggared! Quite agree Sacha. This handing out of (our) cash to anyone who asks almost without question really ought to stop. Yep have 6 months or so "Job Seekers" after losing ones job, but if you haven't got one by then if you want any cash you have to "earn" it by sweeping the streets or other work in/for the community. No sat in front of the telly swilling lager and chips... -- Cheers Dave. |
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Sacha wrote in :
It's at times like this that one wishes for a mad, bad and dangerous-to-know Cousin Giuseppe! But if the police know who this is and he's continuing to violate others' property, too with luck he'll be caught. However, that won't solve your financial issues, unfortunately. People like that should be made to pay up out of wages, social security payments, or by the sale of their own property, wherever possible. In his case, he'd probably be beggared! This tiny village was shaken to its core a few weeks ago when someone ripped a For Sale sign up, stove in the windscreen of a car and chucked the sign in a hedge. The owner of the car is in his late seventies, terribly polite and kind, local verger and has worked on the land all his life. He loves his car dearly and almost any time you pass his house, he's out there, dusting it off or polishing it. It was a mindless piece of utter nastiness by someone who has the brains of a louse. I wonder why they picked on an old man? Because the chances of being caught are remote and even so, this poor old man would have been a pushover. Its bloody disgusting. Yet again OH informs me (while writing)that others have had a bad night too! One person left the car door open and the drivers seat is smeared with you know what.and the steering wheel so the driver could not see it. This is so sick its not real. baz |
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in
ll.co.uk: On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 09:24:27 GMT, Baz wrote: Let me tell you that this has scared us both half to death here, the scroat has crept up during the night and caused thousands of pounds worth of damage and we didn't hear a thing. Imagine if he wanted to do US harm. I can understand that but that isn't this scums modus operandi is it? He might be a big, burly, intimdating bloke who you wouldn't want to pick a fight with but inside he is as yellow as canary. Hence coming back in the wee small hours just to mindlessly damage your property. I don't know where the money is going to come from but we have to get some quality recordable security here. Today if I can. Keep that knee still if you can. There are quite complex rules around CCTV recordings and having them as admisable evidence. Also a system that can produce images that can be used to positively identify some one from 20' won't be cheap... If we have to re-mortgage we will have to do. We will not sleep properly from now on otherwise. We are already talking about moving house. This is a normal reaction, apparently. But we feel unsafe.If someone can do that kind of frenzied damage, what if he really put his mind to it? Baz |
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in
ll.co.uk: On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 08:23:47 +0100, Mike wrote: 6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars. Well at least you should be able to report it to the Police and they might be able to use the information against him *if* they ever manage to get a case that will stick. Unforunantely your case won't "I woz in me 'van asleep wiv' the missus". Report it and get a crime number and contact your insurance co. Then keep a (short) sharp knife with you and if you ever see his pickup you know what to do... Or even a box of matches. Fold one in half, take off the valve cap jam in the match, snap off protusion, loosely replace valve cap. Takes time though... Or a valve insert remover but the sharp knife across the base of valve stem is qite effective. Super glue in the locks... I wonder if the avengers handbook is still out there on the 'net? Lots hints and tips about how "to get ones own back" when the normal routes fail. Well you asked for that didn't you? Couldn't you have used a bit more tact? Be polite to him, get rid of him THEN call the Police!!! Quite, remember this type of person does not regard the law as any form of barrier to any thing they want to do. Don't let the law get in your way either, just don't get caught! Let me tell you that you are worse than the arsehole who committed the crime against us. Baz |
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On 07/08/2011 10:30, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 08:45:50 GMT, Baz wrote: There is a neighbour across the road who has a CCTV and the police are investigating now, but the vehicle is stolen sadly. Bother, forget about the revenge. B-( This individual is known to the police by description, and his method. Thats all the police will say. The Police usually do know the local "no goods" very well, trouble is getting enough evidence to make a case stick to the scum. With the bodywork damage it is almost certain both cars will be written off. For insurance purposes. As this is only cosmetic damage you could buy the cars from the insurance company if they write them off and get the damage repaired (or do it yourself). *A lot* less hassle than having to find two replacement cars at short notice, or dashing out to get a couple of £500 "good runners" to tide you over until you find the cars you want. While I have been writing this the insurance company have allocated us courtsey cars and to wait for confirmation of the details. So its wheels back on. Can it be so easy? Well you may have to wait until the hire car co opens on Monday. If the cars are going in for body work with the insurers approved place the body shop will provide the courtsey car. I wonder how this is going to affect our policies, money wise next renewal. I've had "protected no claims" for years so not up to speed on the current rules. It used to be you got a 10 to 15% discount for each year without a claim up to around 5 years. If you made a claim you lost one of those years and the associated discount. As I say I don't know if that is still how it works. Shopping around for car insurance each year is normally worth while, compared to just blindly accepting their renewal offer. Again while writing, a neighbour has had "foul" put through his letterbox last night or early this morning. Disgusting. The police are taking this more seriously now. Human or animal? I hope they sample it and run DNA test, they might be able to get a link between him (or his pet) and at least that. I often see (as everyone must) anti-social behaviour, but being a devout coward I say nothing. If you admonish someone for litter dropping you will at least get a mouthful of verbal abuse, perhaps worse. I don't think it worth it. Which is why it is so prevalent I suspect. -- Residing on low ground in North Staffordshire |
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Baz wrote in :
Yesterday the OH and me were in the front garden doing some weeding when a chap came to me, treading on plants and with a dodgy attitude asked if I wanted him to fix my roof! I said there is nothing wrong with the roof and if there was I could fix it. He went on to ask if I wanted the garden digging! Then did I want the plastic window frames cleaning! He wouldn't take no for an answer. Unknown to me the OH recognised him from last year when he was stealing wheelie bins and rang the police. While undesired man and me were talking OH passed me the phone out of the window and was surprised to be talking to the police(as I didn't know she had rang them). I quickly got the gist and gave them a reg. no. of a pickup truck which I thought must have been his, he ran off immediatly. 6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars. I feel like giving in! For F**ks sake. We both have to go to work tomorrow. Baz This man is now in custody. Baz |
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On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 09:53:19 GMT, Baz wrote:
Sacha wrote in : It's at times like this that one wishes for a mad, bad and dangerous-to-know Cousin Giuseppe! But if the police know who this is and he's continuing to violate others' property, too with luck he'll be caught. However, that won't solve your financial issues, unfortunately. People like that should be made to pay up out of wages, social security payments, or by the sale of their own property, wherever possible. In his case, he'd probably be beggared! This tiny village was shaken to its core a few weeks ago when someone ripped a For Sale sign up, stove in the windscreen of a car and chucked the sign in a hedge. The owner of the car is in his late seventies, terribly polite and kind, local verger and has worked on the land all his life. He loves his car dearly and almost any time you pass his house, he's out there, dusting it off or polishing it. It was a mindless piece of utter nastiness by someone who has the brains of a louse. I wonder why they picked on an old man? Because the chances of being caught are remote and even so, this poor old man would have been a pushover. Its bloody disgusting. Yet again OH informs me (while writing)that others have had a bad night too! One person left the car door open and the drivers seat is smeared with you know what.and the steering wheel so the driver could not see it. This is so sick its not real. baz Really sorry to hear all this Baz. Hope it gets sorted soon. Did your neighbours also offend the same man? It somehow seems odd that he should return so quickly and damage your cars. I'd have thought that even a real idiot would realise that they'd be the first to be suspected. Cheers Jake ============================================== Gardening at the dry end (east) of Swansea Bay in between reading anything by JRR Tolkien. www.rivendell.org.uk |
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Moonraker wrote in :
I often see (as everyone must) anti-social behaviour, but being a devout coward I say nothing. If you admonish someone for litter dropping you will at least get a mouthful of verbal abuse, perhaps worse. I don't think it worth it. Which is why it is so prevalent I suspect. NO NO Some scroat who is now in custody shat through an innocent persons letterbox. How much more information is needed? Baz |
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Moonraker wrote:
I often see (as everyone must) anti-social behaviour, but being a devout coward I say nothing. If you admonish someone for litter dropping you will at least get a mouthful of verbal abuse, perhaps worse. I don't think it worth it. Which is why it is so prevalent I suspect. I know where you're coming from, and I'm mostly the same, but sometimes I snap, and every time I have I've had little or no comeback from it. And of course, once I've gone far enough to snap, I'm perfectgly capable of handling anyone who wants to give a mouthful! Last week I was getting changed from swimming with my 2 boys, and there were a bunch of mouthy swearing shouty kids on the other side of the changing rooms. After the 3rd lot of hoping they would stop, I banged on the separating wall at them and shouted at them to please stop with the language as there were small children around. No more swearing. |
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"Moonraker" wrote in message ... On 07/08/2011 10:30, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 08:45:50 GMT, Baz wrote: There is a neighbour across the road who has a CCTV and the police are investigating now, but the vehicle is stolen sadly. Bother, forget about the revenge. B-( This individual is known to the police by description, and his method. Thats all the police will say. The Police usually do know the local "no goods" very well, trouble is getting enough evidence to make a case stick to the scum. With the bodywork damage it is almost certain both cars will be written off. For insurance purposes. As this is only cosmetic damage you could buy the cars from the insurance company if they write them off and get the damage repaired (or do it yourself). *A lot* less hassle than having to find two replacement cars at short notice, or dashing out to get a couple of £500 "good runners" to tide you over until you find the cars you want. While I have been writing this the insurance company have allocated us courtsey cars and to wait for confirmation of the details. So its wheels back on. Can it be so easy? Well you may have to wait until the hire car co opens on Monday. If the cars are going in for body work with the insurers approved place the body shop will provide the courtsey car. I wonder how this is going to affect our policies, money wise next renewal. I've had "protected no claims" for years so not up to speed on the current rules. It used to be you got a 10 to 15% discount for each year without a claim up to around 5 years. If you made a claim you lost one of those years and the associated discount. As I say I don't know if that is still how it works. Shopping around for car insurance each year is normally worth while, compared to just blindly accepting their renewal offer. Again while writing, a neighbour has had "foul" put through his letterbox last night or early this morning. Disgusting. The police are taking this more seriously now. Human or animal? I hope they sample it and run DNA test, they might be able to get a link between him (or his pet) and at least that. I often see (as everyone must) anti-social behaviour, but being a devout coward I say nothing. If you admonish someone for litter dropping you will at least get a mouthful of verbal abuse, perhaps worse. I don't think it worth it. Which is why it is so prevalent I suspect. -- Residing on low ground in North Staffordshire It's not about being a coward, it's about going about it the right way, not confronting them as Baz did, but take the details and give the police something to do other than sit there waiting for the motorists to break the speed limit and adopt a gung ho, or following last night's riots which seem to follow on from plod's 'GUN HO' attitude. Mike -- .................................... Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive. .................................... |
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Jake Nospam@invalid wrote in
: Really sorry to hear all this Baz. Hope it gets sorted soon. Did your neighbours also offend the same man? It somehow seems odd that he should return so quickly and damage your cars. I'd have thought that even a real idiot would realise that they'd be the first to be suspected. Cheers Jake ============================================== Gardening at the dry end (east) of Swansea Bay in between reading anything by JRR Tolkien. www.rivendell.org.uk Yes my neighbours offended the same man by refusing to accept his bullying tactics, and they, well some, got shit put through their letterbox. It seems to me that you disbelieve me? A real idiot, your words, not mine would. I hope its clear now. Baz |
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On 07/08/2011 11:30, Baz wrote:
"Dave wrote in ll.co.uk: On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 08:23:47 +0100, Mike wrote: 6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars. Well at least you should be able to report it to the Police and they might be able to use the information against him *if* they ever manage to get a case that will stick. Unforunantely your case won't "I woz in me 'van asleep wiv' the missus". Report it and get a crime number and contact your insurance co. Then keep a (short) sharp knife with you and if you ever see his pickup you know what to do... Or even a box of matches. Fold one in half, take off the valve cap jam in the match, snap off protusion, loosely replace valve cap. Takes time though... Or a valve insert remover but the sharp knife across the base of valve stem is qite effective. Super glue in the locks... I wonder if the avengers handbook is still out there on the 'net? Lots hints and tips about how "to get ones own back" when the normal routes fail. Well you asked for that didn't you? Couldn't you have used a bit more tact? Be polite to him, get rid of him THEN call the Police!!! Quite, remember this type of person does not regard the law as any form of barrier to any thing they want to do. Don't let the law get in your way either, just don't get caught! Let me tell you that you are worse than the arsehole who committed the crime against us. Baz WELL SAID!!! There are reasons why you don't take the law into your own hands. It is not a sensible thing to do at all. |
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On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 10:55:55 GMT, Baz wrote:
Baz wrote in : Yesterday the OH and me were in the front garden doing some weeding when a chap came to me, treading on plants and with a dodgy attitude asked if I wanted him to fix my roof! I said there is nothing wrong with the roof and if there was I could fix it. He went on to ask if I wanted the garden digging! Then did I want the plastic window frames cleaning! He wouldn't take no for an answer. Unknown to me the OH recognised him from last year when he was stealing wheelie bins and rang the police. While undesired man and me were talking OH passed me the phone out of the window and was surprised to be talking to the police(as I didn't know she had rang them). I quickly got the gist and gave them a reg. no. of a pickup truck which I thought must have been his, he ran off immediatly. 6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars. I feel like giving in! For F**ks sake. We both have to go to work tomorrow. Baz This man is now in custody. Baz Hope they can do him for something! -- http://www.voucherfreebies.co.uk |
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"Baz" wrote in message ... Martin wrote in : On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 09:43:39 +0100, Sacha wrote: On 2011-08-07 09:25:30 +0100, Martin said: On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 08:48:38 +0100, Sacha wrote: On 2011-08-07 08:15:44 +0100, Baz said: Yesterday the OH and me were in the front garden doing some weeding when a chap came to me, treading on plants and with a dodgy attitude asked if I wanted him to fix my roof! I said there is nothing wrong with the roof and if there was I could fix it. He went on to ask if I wanted the garden digging! Then did I want the plastic window frames cleaning! He wouldn't take no for an answer. Unknown to me the OH recognised him from last year when he was stealing wheelie bins and rang the police. While undesired man and me were talking OH passed me the phone out of the window and was surprised to be talking to the police(as I didn't know she had rang them). I quickly got the gist and gave them a reg. no. of a pickup truck which I thought must have been his, he ran off immediatly. 6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars. I feel like giving in! For F**ks sake. We both have to go to work tomorrow. Baz What a horrible thing to happen. It's only upside is that the police have his reg.no. and know he's operating in your area. CCTV camera installation, perhaps? We have had tyres slashed too. Our new car has no spare wheel just a sophisticated puncture outfit made for holes less than 3mm. I spotted this after I had bought the car. The salesman said a survey had shown that customers didn't need a spare wheel anymore! !! What utter madness. When I picked up a horseshoe nail in one tyre, I certainly needed a spare. I've had 3 puncture altogether with this car, having never had one in my life before! Ignoring slashed tyres, we have been averaging a puncture a year, mainly from wood screws which I suspect vandals have screwed into the tyres. Things have got better since the local yob has found a job. Let me tell you that this has scared us both half to death here, the scroat has crept up during the night and caused thousands of pounds worth of damage and we didn't hear a thing. Imagine if he wanted to do US harm. I don't know where the money is going to come from but we have to get some quality recordable security here. Today if I can. The police are going to talk with us later on today about security. Baz Cheapest is to get a fake camera. |
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On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 11:14:19 GMT, Baz wrote:
Jake Nospam@invalid wrote in : Really sorry to hear all this Baz. Hope it gets sorted soon. Did your neighbours also offend the same man? It somehow seems odd that he should return so quickly and damage your cars. I'd have thought that even a real idiot would realise that they'd be the first to be suspected. Cheers Jake ============================================== Gardening at the dry end (east) of Swansea Bay in between reading anything by JRR Tolkien. www.rivendell.org.uk Yes my neighbours offended the same man by refusing to accept his bullying tactics, and they, well some, got shit put through their letterbox. It seems to me that you disbelieve me? Not for one second, Baz. Sorry that I expressed myself badly. A real idiot, your words, not mine would. This guy is an idiot, as well as a bully.Trouble is that the phrase "The law is an ass" is also very true. You know who did it, your neighbours know who did it, the Police probably agree. But I'm very cynical about the Crown Prosecution Service (because of experience) and no doubt they'll demand lots of evidence simply because, they will say, the culprit is too obvious. But I really hope things work out right for you quickly. It may sound daft but if you haven't already try and drop, casually, into conversation with the Police that your son's starting training later in the year. Cheers Jake ============================================== Gardening at the dry end (east) of Swansea Bay in between reading anything by JRR Tolkien. www.rivendell.org.uk |
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"Baz" wrote in message ... Sacha wrote in : On 2011-08-07 08:15:44 +0100, Baz said: Yesterday the OH and me were in the front garden doing some weeding when a chap came to me, treading on plants and with a dodgy attitude asked if I wanted him to fix my roof! I said there is nothing wrong with the roof and if there was I could fix it. He went on to ask if I wanted the garden digging! Then did I want the plastic window frames cleaning! He wouldn't take no for an answer. Unknown to me the OH recognised him from last year when he was stealing wheelie bins and rang the police. While undesired man and me were talking OH passed me the phone out of the window and was surprised to be talking to the police(as I didn't know she had rang them). I quickly got the gist and gave them a reg. no. of a pickup truck which I thought must have been his, he ran off immediatly. 6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars. I feel like giving in! For F**ks sake. We both have to go to work tomorrow. Baz What a horrible thing to happen. It's only upside is that the police have his reg.no. and know he's operating in your area. CCTV camera installation, perhaps? There is a neighbour across the road who has a CCTV and the police are investigating now, but the vehicle is stolen sadly. This individual is known to the police by description, and his method. Thats all the police will say. Where to get tyres is top of my list now. The price is mad as well with callout charges. Good to have neighbours, we are taking my wheels to a tyrefitting sevice, but Reikha's car is going to a recovery service and hopefully the insurance will sort it today. What a bloody mess. It couldn't come at a worse time financially. With the bodywork damage it is almost certain both cars will be written off. While I have been writing this the insurance company have allocated us courtsey cars and to wait for confirmation of the details. So its wheels back on. Can it be so easy? I hope so, Reikha has been on the phone all morning so far. I wonder how this is going to affect our policies, money wise next renewal. I dare not think about it. What a mess. Again while writing, a neighbour has had "foul" put through his letterbox last night or early this morning. Disgusting. The police are taking this more seriously now. Baz Vote for the BNP! We have had too many years of liberals and socialiasts. |
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: On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 10:55:55 GMT, Baz wrote: Baz wrote in : Yesterday the OH and me were in the front garden doing some weeding when a chap came to me, treading on plants and with a dodgy attitude asked if I wanted him to fix my roof! I said there is nothing wrong with the roof and if there was I could fix it. He went on to ask if I wanted the garden digging! Then did I want the plastic window frames cleaning! He wouldn't take no for an answer. Unknown to me the OH recognised him from last year when he was stealing wheelie bins and rang the police. While undesired man and me were talking OH passed me the phone out of the window and was surprised to be talking to the police(as I didn't know she had rang them). I quickly got the gist and gave them a reg. no. of a pickup truck which I thought must have been his, he ran off immediatly. 6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars. I feel like giving in! For F**ks sake. We both have to go to work tomorrow. Baz This man is now in custody. Baz Hope they can do him for something! They will "do" him, but the courts decide the penalty. More often than not a law breaker, even a violent cus will go free to offend again. Baz |
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.co.uk... On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 08:45:50 GMT, Baz wrote: There is a neighbour across the road who has a CCTV and the police are investigating now, but the vehicle is stolen sadly. Bother, forget about the revenge. B-( This individual is known to the police by description, and his method. Thats all the police will say. The Police usually do know the local "no goods" very well, trouble is getting enough evidence to make a case stick to the scum. With the bodywork damage it is almost certain both cars will be written off. For insurance purposes. As this is only cosmetic damage you could buy the cars from the insurance company if they write them off and get the damage repaired (or do it yourself). *A lot* less hassle than having to find two replacement cars at short notice, or dashing out to get a couple of £500 "good runners" to tide you over until you find the cars you want. While I have been writing this the insurance company have allocated us courtsey cars and to wait for confirmation of the details. So its wheels back on. Can it be so easy? Well you may have to wait until the hire car co opens on Monday. If the cars are going in for body work with the insurers approved place the body shop will provide the courtsey car. I wonder how this is going to affect our policies, money wise next renewal. I've had "protected no claims" for years so not up to speed on the current rules. It used to be you got a 10 to 15% discount for each year without a claim up to around 5 years. If you made a claim you lost one of those years and the associated discount. As I say I don't know if that is still how it works. Shopping around for car insurance each year is normally worth while, compared to just blindly accepting their renewal offer. Again while writing, a neighbour has had "foul" put through his letterbox last night or early this morning. Disgusting. The police are taking this more seriously now. Human or animal? I hope they sample it and run DNA test, they might be able to get a link between him (or his pet) and at least that. -- Neighbourhood vigilante group is what you want. If the police won't protect you... Even if they catch scum like this he will only get his hand slapped. Probably end up doing community serviceon your street. He'll blame you for that as well...... |
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On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 10:55:55 GMT, Baz wrote:
Baz wrote in : Yesterday the OH and me were in the front garden doing some weeding when a chap came to me, treading on plants and with a dodgy attitude asked if I wanted him to fix my roof! I said there is nothing wrong with the roof and if there was I could fix it. He went on to ask if I wanted the garden digging! Then did I want the plastic window frames cleaning! He wouldn't take no for an answer. Unknown to me the OH recognised him from last year when he was stealing wheelie bins and rang the police. While undesired man and me were talking OH passed me the phone out of the window and was surprised to be talking to the police(as I didn't know she had rang them). I quickly got the gist and gave them a reg. no. of a pickup truck which I thought must have been his, he ran off immediatly. 6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars. I feel like giving in! For F**ks sake. We both have to go to work tomorrow. Baz This man is now in custody. Baz Now that is good news. Keep us posted! Cheers Jake ============================================== Gardening at the dry end (east) of Swansea Bay in between reading anything by JRR Tolkien. www.rivendell.org.uk |
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: Cheapest is to get a fake camera. And record nothing? A criminal like I have come into contact with is unlikely to be scared with a fake, now is he! And besides that the toe rag needs catching, and quickly before someone gets hurt. Baz |
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"harryagain" wrote in message ... "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.co.uk... On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 08:45:50 GMT, Baz wrote: There is a neighbour across the road who has a CCTV and the police are investigating now, but the vehicle is stolen sadly. Bother, forget about the revenge. B-( This individual is known to the police by description, and his method. Thats all the police will say. The Police usually do know the local "no goods" very well, trouble is getting enough evidence to make a case stick to the scum. With the bodywork damage it is almost certain both cars will be written off. For insurance purposes. As this is only cosmetic damage you could buy the cars from the insurance company if they write them off and get the damage repaired (or do it yourself). *A lot* less hassle than having to find two replacement cars at short notice, or dashing out to get a couple of £500 "good runners" to tide you over until you find the cars you want. While I have been writing this the insurance company have allocated us courtsey cars and to wait for confirmation of the details. So its wheels back on. Can it be so easy? Well you may have to wait until the hire car co opens on Monday. If the cars are going in for body work with the insurers approved place the body shop will provide the courtsey car. I wonder how this is going to affect our policies, money wise next renewal. I've had "protected no claims" for years so not up to speed on the current rules. It used to be you got a 10 to 15% discount for each year without a claim up to around 5 years. If you made a claim you lost one of those years and the associated discount. As I say I don't know if that is still how it works. Shopping around for car insurance each year is normally worth while, compared to just blindly accepting their renewal offer. Again while writing, a neighbour has had "foul" put through his letterbox last night or early this morning. Disgusting. The police are taking this more seriously now. Human or animal? I hope they sample it and run DNA test, they might be able to get a link between him (or his pet) and at least that. -- Neighbourhood vigilante group is what you want. If the police won't protect you... Even if they catch scum like this he will only get his hand slapped. Probably end up doing community serviceon your street. He'll blame you for that as well...... In the 1970's I was teaching in one of the Isle of Wight Prisons. One of the prisoners finished the course in May and was released in June. (They only came on the course towards the end of their sentence) I was walking across the main area a few weeks later when I saw him coming towards me. "What are you doing here?" 'Two and a half years', "What for?" 'GBH, I went back and beat up the bloke who put me in last time' Probably end up doing community serviceon your street. He'll blame you for that as well...... THAT is why you don't take the law into your own hands but take notes and inform plod later. :-(( Mike -- .................................... Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive. .................................... |
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: But I really hope things work out right for you quickly. It may sound daft but if you haven't already try and drop, casually, into conversation with the Police that your son's starting training later in the year. Cheers Jake ============================================== Gardening at the dry end (east) of Swansea Bay in between reading anything by JRR Tolkien. www.rivendell.org.uk Jake, I know what you say and that would lower myself, why should I be different because of that? It should not make any difference. If I did that and he got to know about it, it would undermine everything he believes in. Anyone who is tempted to bribe or otherwise corrupt can never understand freedom. Baz |
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Is there anything you can do as a community? It's difficult with everyone going to work each day but I wonder if patrols could be arranged whereby, at the first sign of trouble, the perp knows they've been spotted and the police called. I agree. I think it's terrifying to think this has been done as you slept and what is almost worse is to think he'll get off with an asbo or less. We have a thing here I think it's called community policing, where civillians don a uniform, paid,full time but have lesser powers than the actual police. It's been a few hours now since the discovery of this rotten lot, and we have both calmed down so much. We are going to have to think hard about security and how much budget, to my way of thinking it is maximum. We can't have this again. Baz |
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk... On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 09:43:39 +0100, Sacha wrote: We have had tyres slashed too. Our new car has no spare wheel just a sophisticated puncture outfit made for holes less than 3mm. I spotted this after I had bought the car. The salesman said a survey had shown that customers didn't need a spare wheel anymore! !! What utter madness. When I picked up a horseshoe nail in one tyre, I certainly needed a spare. Most customers are townies, shed horseshoe nails are bit rare in towns... Also most people these days wouldn't even know how to change a wheel, assuming they know where the spare and/or the jack is located. I know where my jack and spare wheel are. I also know how to change a wheel - my dear old Dad saw to that. My problem is I just don't have the strength to undo the wheel nuts the tyer fitters did up with a machine. Baz, you and Mrs Baz have my sympathy. If it's any consolation, the coward, having taken his revenge, will most likely not come near you again, because you know who he is. -- Kathy |
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... Baz wrote in : Yesterday the OH and me were in the front garden doing some weeding when a chap came to me, treading on plants and with a dodgy attitude asked if I wanted him to fix my roof! I said there is nothing wrong with the roof and if there was I could fix it. He went on to ask if I wanted the garden digging! Then did I want the plastic window frames cleaning! He wouldn't take no for an answer. Unknown to me the OH recognised him from last year when he was stealing wheelie bins and rang the police. While undesired man and me were talking OH passed me the phone out of the window and was surprised to be talking to the police(as I didn't know she had rang them). I quickly got the gist and gave them a reg. no. of a pickup truck which I thought must have been his, he ran off immediatly. 6.30 this morning we were going out for the day. No chance. 8 slashed tyres and DEEP scratches to the bodywork of our cars. I feel like giving in! For F**ks sake. We both have to go to work tomorrow. Baz This man is now in custody. Good. I hope they make it all stick, and he gets a right miserable magistrate on a bad hair/rotten hangover day. -- Kathy |
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Kathy wrote:
I know where my jack and spare wheel are. I also know how to change a wheel - my dear old Dad saw to that. My problem is I just don't have the strength to undo the wheel nuts the tyer fitters did up with a machine. If it makes you feel better, my brother, my dad, Nick, various other people, couldn't undo my brother's, ended up having to call out the AA to fix a flat tyre. :-/ |
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Let me tell you that this has scared us both half to death here, the scroat has crept up during the night and caused thousands of pounds worth of damage and we didn't hear a thing. Imagine if he wanted to do US harm. I don't know where the money is going to come from but we have to get some quality recordable security here. Today if I can. The police are going to talk with us later on today about security. Sympathy friend, take a look here.... http://www.maplin.co.uk/search?criteria=Cctv Do remember to put at least one camera at eye level (hidden or disguised if poss) as a lot of the scum wear hoodies so high cameras don't get much in the way of ID. We used to have a special one at work that got people full face as they came through the door and no-one knew it was a camera as it looked like something else. The picture must be as good as a normal TV not those useless grainy ones you see on crimewatch, so you need to check before you buy. -- Regards Bob Hobden W.of London. UK |
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On Sun, 7 Aug 2011 14:23:16 +0100, "Kathy" wrote:
I know where my jack and spare wheel are. I also know how to change a wheel - my dear old Dad saw to that. My problem is I just don't have the strength to undo the wheel nuts the tyer fitters did up with a machine. The last time my car had a puncture I couldn't undo the wheel nuts and had to call the AA. The man had some gadget that allowed greater leverage but it stripped the corners on one of the nuts. He called another person who arrived and produced a gadget to clamp on the nut and then with a huge amount of effort he unscrewed the actual threaded blot in the wheel. It took about two hours and then cost nearly £60 to get the wheel repaired. I've since sold my car. Steve -- Neural network applications, help and support. Neural Network Software. www.npsl1.com EasyNN-plus. Neural Networks plus. www.easynn.com SwingNN. Forecast with Neural Networks. www.swingnn.com JustNN. Just Neural Networks. www.justnn.com |
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In message , Martin
writes We have had tyres slashed too. Our new car has no spare wheel just a sophisticated puncture outfit made for holes less than 3mm. I spotted this after I had bought the car. The salesman said a survey had shown that customers didn't need a spare wheel anymore! Wow! What a salesman! -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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writes "Baz" wrote Let me tell you that this has scared us both half to death here, the scroat has crept up during the night and caused thousands of pounds worth of damage and we didn't hear a thing. Imagine if he wanted to do US harm. I don't know where the money is going to come from but we have to get some quality recordable security here. Today if I can. The police are going to talk with us later on today about security. Baz Cheapest is to get a fake camera. I bought several cheap (circa 30/40 quid) cameras when we had a fence repeatedly smashed. The vandalism has not occurred again after several years, and I know that the cameras were quickly spotted by local kids because one of them slyly asked what they were for... They are a definite deterrent, and I handed a tape to the local cops which placed two yobs in my garden at 06:30 one morning. No time-stamp on the video, but my statement guaranteeing that the video recorder was set at the correct time was enough to I/D them and add a charge of trespass to the burglary they had committed elsewhere the same morning. They were caught after an alert neighbour saw his kitchen door handle turn as they tried it, and called the police who were attending the nearby burglary. My main camera is connected to a DVD recorder and (importantly programmed to record at all times except for evening TV viewing. :-) Security measures are best installed *before* incidents happen, and upgraded from time to time. A personal not eto Baz, I understand how you feel, because we were troubled by street gangs in this otherwise respectable area, until cooperation between local councillors and the police broke them up. Since the introduction of ASBOS it has been very quiet here... Don't let the b*****ds ruin your health, I would think that they are unlikely to return... -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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writes Is there anything you can do as a community? It's difficult with everyone going to work each day but I wonder if patrols could be arranged whereby, at the first sign of trouble, the perp knows they've been spotted and the police called. What we need are more policemen, and what we are getting are many less policeman. But it's good for the economy. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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