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Two people (obviously watching Sarah raven!) have contacted me to ask
where the best place to get a bulk order of wildflower mix for chalk
meadows. I know you can get small amounts from the standard seed
companies but where do they go for larger amounts of seed. 1 lady has
about half an acre she could sow.
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Two people (obviously watching Sarah raven!) have contacted me to ask
where the best place to get a bulk order of wildflower mix for chalk
meadows. I know you can get small amounts from the standard seed
companies but where do they go for larger amounts of seed. 1 lady has
about half an acre she could sow.




Found a site so answered my own question
Moles sell 1kg of seeds at a time so I'll tell them that unless anyone
recommends anywhere else?

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Two people (obviously watching Sarah raven!) have contacted me to ask
where the best place to get a bulk order of wildflower mix for chalk
meadows. I know you can get small amounts from the standard seed
companies but where do they go for larger amounts of seed. 1 lady has
about half an acre she could sow.


First few to come up on Google wildflower seed mix bulk site:uk

URL:http://www.meadowmania.co.uk/default.cfm/loaddoc.51
URL:http://www.nickys-nursery.co.uk/seed...wild.htm#Chalk
Soil Mixture
URL:http://wildseed.co.uk/mixtures/view/29

But they're still £500 for a half-acre.

Mixtures including grasses, presumably intended for sowing on bare
ground, are cheaper per kilo, but need to be sown at greater weight per
square meter.
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On Feb 22, 9:01*pm, Janet Tweedy wrote:
Two people (obviously watching Sarah raven!) have contacted me to ask
where the best place to get a bulk order of wildflower mix for chalk
meadows. I know you can get small amounts from the standard seed
companies but where do they go for larger amounts of seed. 1 lady has
about half an acre she could sow.
--
Janet Tweedy



There was a lot of bullsh*t on that programme. The woman is a half
wit.
Wildflower meadows as they created by the method shown will be taken
over by grass in a few years. The soil is too fertile.

To create a real wildflower meadow, you have to mow and take away the
grass for years to reduce the fertility. The flowers can then out
compete the grass.

Medieval meadows had low fertility, that's why there are/were lots of
flowers.
Modern meadows have high fertility due to added nitrogen, that's why
there are few flowers.

Don't waste your money girls. Start mowing TAKE THE CUTTINGS AWAY,
VERY IMPORTANT. And no fertilizer. It takes around three years of
mowing to get fertility down to where you can even start. By then you
will probably get local wild flowers spontaneously appearing.
They might not be the pretty ones on that stupid TV progamme/
presenter.

BTW I had ten acres of wildflower meadows at my previous house.
There are/were gov. grants (and advice) for creating them

This lot here advocates removing the topsoil to achieve low fertility.
http://lincstrust.org.uk/factsheets/meadow/create.php
OK on a pocket handkerchief I suppose.

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On Feb 22, 9:01*pm, Janet Tweedy wrote:
Two people (obviously watching Sarah raven!) have contacted me to ask
where the best place to get a bulk order of wildflower mix for chalk
meadows. I know you can get small amounts from the standard seed
companies but where do they go for larger amounts of seed. 1 lady has
about half an acre she could sow.
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Janet Tweedy


Might be worth contacting these people
http://www.grasslands-trust.org/page.php?pageid=18


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On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:01:49 +0000, Janet Tweedy
wrote:

Two people (obviously watching Sarah raven!) have contacted me to ask
where the best place to get a bulk order of wildflower mix for chalk
meadows. I know you can get small amounts from the standard seed
companies but where do they go for larger amounts of seed. 1 lady has
about half an acre she could sow.


Wriggly wigglers I think have big amounts
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On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:55:45 -0800 (PST), harry
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On Feb 22, 9:01*pm, Janet Tweedy wrote:
Two people (obviously watching Sarah raven!) have contacted me to ask
where the best place to get a bulk order of wildflower mix for chalk
meadows. I know you can get small amounts from the standard seed
companies but where do they go for larger amounts of seed. 1 lady has
about half an acre she could sow.
--
Janet Tweedy



There was a lot of bullsh*t on that programme. The woman is a half
wit.
Wildflower meadows as they created by the method shown will be taken
over by grass in a few years. The soil is too fertile.

To create a real wildflower meadow, you have to mow and take away the
grass for years to reduce the fertility. The flowers can then out
compete the grass.


I think they did say something about yellow rattle being vital to
attack the grass and allow flowers to thrive


Medieval meadows had low fertility, that's why there are/were lots of
flowers.
Modern meadows have high fertility due to added nitrogen, that's why
there are few flowers.

Don't waste your money girls. Start mowing TAKE THE CUTTINGS AWAY,
VERY IMPORTANT. And no fertilizer. It takes around three years of
mowing to get fertility down to where you can even start. By then you
will probably get local wild flowers spontaneously appearing.
They might not be the pretty ones on that stupid TV progamme/
presenter.

BTW I had ten acres of wildflower meadows at my previous house.
There are/were gov. grants (and advice) for creating them

This lot here advocates removing the topsoil to achieve low fertility.
http://lincstrust.org.uk/factsheets/meadow/create.php
OK on a pocket handkerchief I suppose.

--
http://www.voucherfreebies.co.uk
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:01:49 +0000, Janet Tweedy
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Two people (obviously watching Sarah raven!) have contacted me to ask
where the best place to get a bulk order of wildflower mix for chalk
meadows. I know you can get small amounts from the standard seed
companies but where do they go for larger amounts of seed. 1 lady has
about half an acre she could sow.



Maybe this idea will help:
http://www.sarahraven.com/how-to/wil...torial-meadows

It's a variation on the meadow idea but seems to get round the "richer
soil" issue.

Cheers, Jake
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Urgling happily from the dryer end of Swansea Bay.
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"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
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Two people (obviously watching Sarah raven!) have contacted me to ask
where the best place to get a bulk order of wildflower mix for chalk
meadows. I know you can get small amounts from the standard seed
companies but where do they go for larger amounts of seed. 1 lady has
about half an acre she could sow.


Naturescape? I've had smaller batches of plug-plants from them in the
past that have been successful in an existing grass and wildflower area.
They do bulk seed mixes for larger sites too.
http://www.naturescape.co.uk

Or perhaps she could try a helpful local agricultural seed merchant.

When we began a wildflower meadow-garden from scratch a local agric seed
merchant very kindly advised on the best grass species to suit our soil
and purpose and made us up a batch even though they normally supplied
farmers for whacking great fields.
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In article , Stewart Robert Hinsley
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First few to come up on Google wildflower seed mix bulk site:uk

URL:http://www.meadowmania.co.uk/default.cfm/loaddoc.51
URL:http://www.nickys-nursery.co.uk/seed...wild.htm#Chalk
Soil Mixture
URL:http://wildseed.co.uk/mixtures/view/29

But they're still £500 for a half-acre.




Yes had already googled and seen them thanks Stewart. Also found Moles
list.
Some have grass in which I am not sure that they want.
Maybe I'll advise them to do a small section first!
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harry writes
Don't waste your money girls. Start mowing TAKE THE CUTTINGS AWAY,
VERY IMPORTANT. And no fertilizer. It takes around three years of
mowing to get fertility down to where you can even start. By then you
will probably get local wild flowers spontaneously appearing.
They might not be the pretty ones on that stupid TV progamme/
presenter.



Yes I agree. Wouldn't advise trying it on lawn areas that had been fed
and weeded for years.

Also the mixtures they sowed on the programme were not going to
outcompete the ragwort/dandelion/silver birch and other stuff so yes I
agree that you would need to weed constantly to get out the stuff you
didn't want!
Having said that i think people that visited the Butterfly World nr. St
Albans in the last three years were very impressed by the land either
side of the main route to the car parks which had been sown with such a
mixture of wildflowers and were absolutely stunning. They didn't contain
many that were shown on the programme but proper English wild flowers.
Actually the verges were better than the awful designed front gardens in
the actual place (but that's another story!)
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Wriggly wigglers I think have big amounts




Ah I do get their emails but generally haven't read them for ages,
thanks for the reminder!
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On 23/02/2012 15:11, mogga wrote:
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:55:45 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 22, 9:01 pm, Janet wrote:
Two people (obviously watching Sarah raven!) have contacted me to ask
where the best place to get a bulk order of wildflower mix for chalk
meadows. I know you can get small amounts from the standard seed
companies but where do they go for larger amounts of seed. 1 lady has
about half an acre she could sow.
--
Janet Tweedy



There was a lot of bullsh*t on that programme. The woman is a half
wit.
Wildflower meadows as they created by the method shown will be taken
over by grass in a few years. The soil is too fertile.

To create a real wildflower meadow, you have to mow and take away the
grass for years to reduce the fertility. The flowers can then out
compete the grass.


I think they did say something about yellow rattle being vital to
attack the grass and allow flowers to thrive



Indeed, they most certainly did.



Medieval meadows had low fertility, that's why there are/were lots of
flowers.
Modern meadows have high fertility due to added nitrogen, that's why
there are few flowers.

Don't waste your money girls. Start mowing TAKE THE CUTTINGS AWAY,
VERY IMPORTANT. And no fertilizer. It takes around three years of
mowing to get fertility down to where you can even start. By then you
will probably get local wild flowers spontaneously appearing.
They might not be the pretty ones on that stupid TV progamme/
presenter.

BTW I had ten acres of wildflower meadows at my previous house.
There are/were gov. grants (and advice) for creating them

This lot here advocates removing the topsoil to achieve low fertility.
http://lincstrust.org.uk/factsheets/meadow/create.php
OK on a pocket handkerchief I suppose.



--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay
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On Feb 22, 9:01*pm, Janet Tweedy wrote:
Two people (obviously watching Sarah raven!) have contacted me to ask
where the best place to get a bulk order of wildflower mix for chalk
meadows. I know you can get small amounts from the standard seed
companies but where do they go for larger amounts of seed. 1 lady has
about half an acre she could sow.
--
Janet Tweedy



Have a look at these two people,
http://www.thegrassseedstore.co.uk/c...0_126_134.html

These peoples 20% mix
http://www.bostonseeds.com/products/...d-Mixtures-20/
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Hill writes
Have a look at these two people,
http://www.thegrassseedstore.co.uk/c...0_126_134.html

These peoples 20% mix
http://www.bostonseeds.com/products/...d-Mixtures-20/




Thanks David will do.
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