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We have a lot of plants in pots in our garden and get through a lot of
fertiliser. The cheapest used to be the boxes of the powder Phostrogen in our supermarket, but now we cannot see that anywhere locally. What is the cheapest fertiliser to get hold of at the moment? We wouldn't mind buying bigger boxes than the ones that go to local shops, although obviously we dont want it on a commercial scale. Thanks. |
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D. T. Green wrote: What is the cheapest fertiliser to get hold of at the moment? We wouldn't mind buying bigger boxes than the ones that go to local shops, although obviously we dont want it on a commercial scale. Thanks. Well, the cheapest fertiliser is that which you produce yourself :-) But you can almost certainly get 10-25 Kg sacks of generic NPK very cheaply if you chase around. Try Tuckers Seeds or LBS. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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David in Normandy wrote in news:4fb8e417$0
: On 20/05/2012 14:05, wrote: Well, the cheapest fertiliser is that which you produce yourself :-) I swear by pee as fertilizer now and it is free. From the research I've done it is quite a balanced fertiliser in NPK terms plus it has trace elements. I simply use an old large necked detergent bottle as a urinal Well, actually, I have to use extra large ;-) .My eyesight is not what it used to be! and each days collection gets made up to a watering can full with water from the water butt. It is surprisingly odour free, presumably because of the dilution and the way the ground / plants take up the nutrients. It gets used mainly on the vegetable garden. Each day a different row of plants gets a feed. They cycle takes around two - three weeks before a row gets another feed. It works very well. For anyone on the squeamish side I ask the question: Is it any worse than putting on horse, cow or chicken manure?! Pee is free and is effective. I agree, but I thought, perhaps wrongly, that only leafy growth would benefit. Such as brassicas. Thanks for the tip (oh!matron!) Baz |
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On 20/05/2012 16:22, Baz wrote:
David in wrote in news:4fb8e417$0 : On 20/05/2012 14:05, wrote: Well, the cheapest fertiliser is that which you produce yourself :-) I swear by pee as fertilizer now and it is free. From the research I've done it is quite a balanced fertiliser in NPK terms plus it has trace elements. I simply use an old large necked detergent bottle as a urinal Well, actually, I have to use extra large ;-) .My eyesight is not what it used to be! and each days collection gets made up to a watering can full with water from the water butt. It is surprisingly odour free, presumably because of the dilution and the way the ground / plants take up the nutrients. It gets used mainly on the vegetable garden. Each day a different row of plants gets a feed. They cycle takes around two - three weeks before a row gets another feed. It works very well. For anyone on the squeamish side I ask the question: Is it any worse than putting on horse, cow or chicken manure?! Pee is free and is effective. I agree, but I thought, perhaps wrongly, that only leafy growth would benefit. Such as brassicas. Thanks for the tip (oh!matron!) Baz It has more than just nitrogen - I've forgotten the NPK ratio but it is maybe biased towards leaf growth, but I've found it to be a good general purpose fertiliser, potatoes, runner beans, leeks, brassicas, carrots, asparagus, peas etc. It didn't work well with strawberries, but was maybe a little too concentrated for them. |
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David in Normandy wrote in
. fr: It has more than just nitrogen - I've forgotten the NPK ratio but it is maybe biased towards leaf growth, but I've found it to be a good general purpose fertiliser, potatoes, runner beans, leeks, brassicas, carrots, asparagus, peas etc. It didn't work well with strawberries, but was maybe a little too concentrated for them. Well thats good enough for me. I will give it a go. Thanks. Baz |
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wrote in message ... In article , D. T. Green wrote: What is the cheapest fertiliser to get hold of at the moment? We wouldn't mind buying bigger boxes than the ones that go to local shops, although obviously we dont want it on a commercial scale. Thanks. /Well, the cheapest fertiliser is that which you produce yourself :-) / /But you can almost certainly get 10-25 Kg sacks of generic NPK /very cheaply if you chase around. Try Tuckers Seeds or LBS. I use NPK 13:13:13 from the local farm supplier. I don't dig it into the soil. It's 90% water soluble, so it gets diluted 100g of NPK to 5 litres of water. So a 20kg sack lasts me about 2 years on the allotment. I prefer to remove the watering can rose, which helps to prevent leaf splash and also avoids the rose holes getting blocked. Everything gets a fortnightly feed. |
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"Bertie Doe" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... In article , D. T. Green wrote: What is the cheapest fertiliser to get hold of at the moment? We wouldn't mind buying bigger boxes than the ones that go to local shops, although obviously we dont want it on a commercial scale. Thanks. /Well, the cheapest fertiliser is that which you produce yourself :-) / /But you can almost certainly get 10-25 Kg sacks of generic NPK /very cheaply if you chase around. Try Tuckers Seeds or LBS. \I use NPK 13:13:13 from the local farm supplier. I don't dig it into the \soil. It's 90% water soluble, so it gets diluted 100g of NPK to 5 litres of \water. So a 20kg sack lasts me about 2 years on the allotment. \I prefer to remove the watering can rose, which helps to prevent leaf splash \and also avoids the rose holes getting blocked. \Everything gets a fortnightly feed. You're right it's 25Kg sacks. I've just phoned the local farm supplier and the prices have gone up a bit, but well worth the investment:- a) NPK 13:13:21 Ideal for root crops - £10.55p + vat b) NPK 15:15:15 Ideal for surface crops - ditto price c) NPK 18:12:20 Ideal for gardens and allotment - £14.99p + vat Next year I may try c) it costs a bit more but the numbers are slightly higher for N (Nitrogen) K (Phosphorus) K (Potassium). Here's a word of caution about overdosing with Nitrogen:- http://landscaping.about.com/cs/lazy...ping/g/npk.htm If in doubt, I trial with a half dose of 50g per watering can, at fortnightly intervals. |
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On May 20, 12:54*pm, "D. T. Green" wrote:
We have a lot of plants in pots in our garden and get through a lot of fertiliser. *The cheapest used to be the boxes of the powder Phostrogen in our supermarket, but now we cannot see that anywhere locally. What is the cheapest fertiliser to get hold of at the moment? *We wouldn't mind buying bigger boxes than the ones that go to local shops, although obviously we dont want it on a commercial scale. Thanks. Bought: bags of rotted poo bought from peoples houses Truly cheapest: All your compostables, either compost them or dig them into the soil as is. One neat and no work option is to place smallish pens about the place, and dump into them. As it rots it goes straight into the nearby soil NT |
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"NT" wrote in message
... Bought: bags of rotted poo bought from peoples houses Truly cheapest: All your compostables, either compost them or dig them into the soil as is. One neat and no work option is to place smallish pens about the place, and dump into them. As it rots it goes straight into the nearby soil NT Good afternoon, I've heard of people moving their "dalek" plastic compost bnis about once they have spread the contents to improve the soil below (increased worm activity is one of the big advantages, I imagine). However another thing people sometimes refer to in grow-your-own is "nitrogen robbing" when organic matter rots in the soil (often mulches, wood chip, etc), using up nitrogen (I think I've understood what the term refers to in this scenario) - do you consider this to be a problem, or would you dig in the compostable material well in advance of planting anything above? Or another option, if planting "nitrogen fixers" such as legumes, is this not even a concern, as their need for extra nitrogen is much less. -- Regards, Jamie D. All the way from sunny Lincolnshire. |
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On May 22, 3:19*pm, "Jamie D." wrote:
"NT" wrote in message ... Bought: bags of rotted poo bought from peoples houses Truly cheapest: All your compostables, either compost them or dig them into the soil as is. One neat and no work option is to place smallish pens about the place, and dump into them. As it rots it goes straight into the nearby soil NT Good afternoon, I've heard of people moving their "dalek" plastic compost bnis about once they have spread the contents to improve the soil below (increased worm activity is one of the big advantages, I imagine). However another thing people sometimes refer to in grow-your-own is "nitrogen robbing" when organic matter rots in the soil (often mulches, wood chip, etc), using up nitrogen (I think I've understood what the term refers to in this scenario) - do you consider this to be a problem, or would you dig in the compostable material well in advance of planting anything above? Or another option, if planting "nitrogen fixers" such as legumes, is this not even a concern, as their need for extra nitrogen is much less. The nitrogen robbing effect of wood chippings is well known, but imho I think its overblown. I've tried all sorts of approaches, including dumping stuff down, covering it with a foot of soil and planting there immediately, and that went ok, despite the risks. One year I put a large pile of wood chippings down and planted cabbages right away, the worst possible combination, and they grew just fine. So now I just dont worry about it, unless the plants concerned are especially termperamental. NT |
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NT wrote (Wed, 23 May 2012 03:06:18 -0700 (PDT)):
On May 22, 3:19Â*pm, "Jamie D." wrote: The nitrogen robbing effect of wood chippings is well known, but imho I think its overblown.[...] So now I just dont worry about it, unless the plants concerned are especially termperamental. NT That's good to hear, thanks. There are obviously plenty of people who say you shouldn't do this or that, then when I ask someone who has tried, usually it seems just a way to scare new gardeners. I think we forgot sometimes that plants WANT to grow and most won't drop down dead at the first thing that Dr Hessayon doesn't recommend. Thanks again. -- Regards, Jamie D. All the way from sunny Lincolnshire. |
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"Sacha" wrote in message
... On 2012-05-24 07:45:10 +0100, Jamie D. said: NT wrote (Wed, 23 May 2012 03:06:18 -0700 (PDT)): On May 22, 3:19 pm, "Jamie D." wrote: The nitrogen robbing effect of wood chippings is well known, but imho I think its overblown.[...] So now I just dont worry about it, unless the plants concerned are especially termperamental. NT That's good to hear, thanks. There are obviously plenty of people who say you shouldn't do this or that, then when I ask someone who has tried, usually it seems just a way to scare new gardeners. I think we forgot sometimes that plants WANT to grow and most won't drop down dead at the first thing that Dr Hessayon doesn't recommend. Thanks again. You can put bark chippings round plants but they do rob the soil of nitrogen and you may need to feed to compensate for that. Over time, things will sort themselves out but you probably won't want a lot of sick looking shrubs while they do. Plants do, indeed, want to grow. I agree with you 1005 on that. However, what they don't want is us to do anything that might deter them from doing so to best effect! And I can't think of a reason why anyone would want to scare new gardeners. In fact, the last person my husband warned about the bark chippings 'problem' was a very old lady who had been a very keen gardener for decades but had no idea why all her Camellias had rapidly turned yellow. Her gardener had tried to save weeding time. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com www.hillhousenurserytearoom.com South Devon Hi Sacha, Perhaps I should have reworded; I'm not worried about a nationwide conspiracy to deter future gardeners, but I've experienced a lot of people who speak in definite terms about what I am doing wrong, what I will do wrong and what I can or can't grow. I get the impression folks I meet think I'm a bit of an ibecile (perhaps I am, but how can they know that?!) because I'm a lot younger than the rest of the allotmenauts around me. -- Regards, Jamie D. All the way from sunny Lincolnshire. |
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