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Not a great picture (Nick's camera-phone), but any chance anyone can guess the
mushroom identity?
http://comps.org/vicky/mushroom.jpg

It was growing in a tray of flower-seedlings, where I had shoved the packet in
the edge of the soil and it had got damp.

(It's about 1/5" tall, with a slightly shaggy top, nothing of note under the
soil - that's the soil it came from on top of the packet)
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Not a great picture (Nick's camera-phone), but any chance anyone can guess
the
mushroom identity?
http://comps.org/vicky/mushroom.jpg

It was growing in a tray of flower-seedlings, where I had shoved the
packet in
the edge of the soil and it had got damp.

(It's about 1/5" tall, with a slightly shaggy top, nothing of note under
the
soil - that's the soil it came from on top of the packet)


I only see someone holding a plastic bag. I'm not a mushroom expert but I
think we need more than this to identify it for you.
Tina




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Not a great picture (Nick's camera-phone), but any chance anyone can guess
the
mushroom identity?
http://comps.org/vicky/mushroom.jpg

It was growing in a tray of flower-seedlings, where I had shoved the
packet in
the edge of the soil and it had got damp.

(It's about 1/5" tall, with a slightly shaggy top, nothing of note under
the
soil - that's the soil it came from on top of the packet)


I only see someone holding a plastic bag. I'm not a mushroom expert but I
think we need more than this to identify it for you.


? There are two mushrooms in the pic showing shape and colour and the
hand gives the scale.

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Not a great picture (Nick's camera-phone), but any chance anyone can guess
the
mushroom identity?
http://comps.org/vicky/mushroom.jpg

It was growing in a tray of flower-seedlings, where I had shoved the
packet in
the edge of the soil and it had got damp.

(It's about 1/5" tall, with a slightly shaggy top, nothing of note under
the
soil - that's the soil it came from on top of the packet)


Maybe this one?
http://www.rogersmushrooms.com/galle...erresult. asp

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Not a great picture (Nick's camera-phone), but any chance anyone can guess
the
mushroom identity?
http://comps.org/vicky/mushroom.jpg

It was growing in a tray of flower-seedlings, where I had shoved the
packet in
the edge of the soil and it had got damp.

(It's about 1/5" tall, with a slightly shaggy top, nothing of note under
the
soil - that's the soil it came from on top of the packet)


Maybe this one?
Rogers Mushrooms - Marasmius undatus Mushroom

KeithC

Looks more like a 'Shaggy Inkcap' to me.

Rogers Mushrooms - Coprinus comatus Mushroom


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Looks more like a 'Shaggy Inkcap' to me.

Rogers Mushrooms - Coprinus comatus Mushroom
If you'd seen one in the wild, you'd know it looks nothing like that, nor marasmiums either.

It's a not a photo I could possibly identify a fungus from, but I think Leucocoprinus birnbaumii is the most likely.

There are one or two species particularly noted for growing in plant pots etc. Leucocoprinus birnbaumii Plants & Fungi: Leucocoprinus birnbaumii (plantpot dapperling) - Species profile from Kew is the best known. They aren't always so obviously yellow as that one, eg Leucocoprinus birnbaumii, aka Lepiota lutea, the yellow houseplant or house plant soil mushroom, Tom Volk's Fungus of the Month for February 2002,
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Keith Cunningham wrote:
http://comps.org/vicky/mushroom.jpg

It was growing in a tray of flower-seedlings, where I had shoved the
packet in
the edge of the soil and it had got damp.

(It's about 1/5" tall, with a slightly shaggy top, nothing of note under
the
soil - that's the soil it came from on top of the packet)


Maybe this one?
http://www.rogersmushrooms.com/galle...erresult. asp


First thought was yes - the third of the photos on that page looks just
like it. But I think the gills are darker in mine than that one.

But thank you. I'm only looking for curiosity sake, so if I don't get
an exact match it's not a problem.

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Keith Cunningham wrote:
http://comps.org/vicky/mushroom.jpg

It was growing in a tray of flower-seedlings, where I had shoved the
packet in
the edge of the soil and it had got damp.

(It's about 1/5" tall, with a slightly shaggy top, nothing of note under
the
soil - that's the soil it came from on top of the packet)


Maybe this one?
http://www.rogersmushrooms.com/galle...erresult. asp


First thought was yes - the third of the photos on that page looks just
like it. But I think the gills are darker in mine than that one.

But thank you. I'm only looking for curiosity sake, so if I don't get
an exact match it's not a problem.


I do like the idea that mushrooms that pop up in your garden are edible and
maybe some are. I was afraid to eat something that I thought was a perfect
specimen of a parasol mushroom under my trees and perhaps it was fine.
So I ate another different one that emerged - looked like a small field
mushroom, but kinda not the same but who knows if they change as they grow.
My insides were turned out for days - I thought I would never get off the
toilet. It must have been poisonous. How lucky was I that my body cleared
it.
Yes, I have a mushroom book. No, even with that will I risk it again.
I only buy mushrooms from the supermarket now.








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I do like the idea that mushrooms that pop up in your garden are edible and
maybe some are. I was afraid to eat something that I thought was a perfect
specimen of a parasol mushroom under my trees and perhaps it was fine.
So I ate another different one that emerged - looked like a small field
mushroom, but kinda not the same but who knows if they change as they grow.
You, like Mr Whisperer, were suffering from not understanding the level of your own ignorance.

Actually parasol is one of the safer ones as it is relatively hard to mistake a parasol for something else, provided you have seen a few parasols and someone who knows has confirmed it to you. They are quite distinctive once you have seen a few and know that is what they are. So it is the parasol you should have eaten with confidence, provided you had good reason to be confident, not the mushroom which is much easier to mistake for something else.

You said "looked like a small field mushroom" - there you are, with your word "small" you already had an indication it wasn't quite right. With fungi, especially mushrooms, you don't eat anything that has any indication it isn't quite right. Also, with mushrooms, it is essential to let them grow beyond baby form beacuse when they are baby ones you can't be sure they aren't something else, this is something you need to know about mushrooms. They also tend to be gregarious, so only one of them was also an indication of not quite right. Also field mushrooms tend to grow where livestock is kept, which is why they are called field mushrooms. Is there livestock in your garden? Probably not a field mushroom then, though not impossible, has been known. There are some mushrooms, though not field mushrooms, that are common on grass verges for example, though given what else lands on grass verges one is a little careful.

Yes there are some things that can grow in gardens that are edible, but there are rather more things that can grow in gardens that aren't. St Georges Mushrooms and some edible milk caps (most milk caps aren't) grow regularly in my garden, but in such small quantity I can't be bothered. I was bothered when some morels grew, as they are special, but that was a one-off associated with some bark mulch we put down. My parents' garden had some boletes, which no longer occur when they grassed that bit. It also had summer truffles for a few years. But most of what grew, russulas, amanitas, wax caps, etc, I wouldn't touch.
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Actually parasol is one of the safer ones as it is relatively hard to
mistake a parasol for something else, provided you have seen a few
parasols and someone who knows has confirmed it to you. They are quite
distinctive once you have seen a few and know that is what they are. So
it is the parasol you should have eaten with confidence, provided you
had good reason to be confident, not the mushroom which is much easier
to mistake for something else.


Right. But I would NOT advise someone with that level of lack of
knowledge to eat parasols, because Amanitas (especially pantherina)
can show some of the 'first-glance' characteristics to a much lesser
degree. You need only a fairly small amount of experience of seeing
both Lepiota and Amanita to get beyond that - but you do need that
amount (and the book knowledge, of course).

I quite agree that eating something that looks like a small field
mushroom is ruddy insane.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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Christina Websell;959489 Wrote:
I do like the idea that mushrooms that pop up in your garden are edible
and
maybe some are. I was afraid to eat something that I thought was a
perfect
specimen of a parasol mushroom under my trees and perhaps it was fine.
So I ate another different one that emerged - looked like a small field

mushroom, but kinda not the same but who knows if they change as they
grow.

You, like Mr Whisperer, were suffering from not understanding the level
of your own ignorance.


Sounds like it Education may be expensive, but
ignorance is more expensive.


Actually parasol is one of the safer ones as it is relatively hard to
mistake a parasol for something else, provided you have seen a few
parasols and someone who knows has confirmed it to you. They are quite
distinctive once you have seen a few and know that is what they are. So
it is the parasol you should have eaten with confidence, provided you
had good reason to be confident, not the mushroom which is much easier
to mistake for something else.


I've eaten parasols and shaggy parasols. Both were
delicious, but the /second/ time I ate shaggy parasols
my digestive tract rebelled violently. Possible difference:
the second ones were growing under a laurel.

Yes there are some things that can grow in gardens that are edible, but
there are rather more things that can grow in gardens that aren't. St
Georges Mushrooms and some edible milk caps (most milk caps aren't) grow
regularly in my garden, but in such small quantity I can't be bothered.
I was bothered when some morels grew, as they are special, but that was
a one-off associated with some bark mulch we put down. My parents'
garden had some boletes, which no longer occur when they grassed that
bit. It also had summer truffles for a few years. But most of what
grew, russulas, amanitas, wax caps, etc, I wouldn't touch.


Many wax caps are pretty unmistakable, but are only
marginally worth eating.
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Not a great picture (Nick's camera-phone), but any chance anyone can
guess the
mushroom identity?
http://comps.org/vicky/mushroom.jpg

It was growing in a tray of flower-seedlings, where I had shoved the
packet in
the edge of the soil and it had got damp.

(It's about 1/5" tall, with a slightly shaggy top, nothing of note under
the
soil - that's the soil it came from on top of the packet)


Maybe this one?
http://www.rogersmushrooms.com/galle...erresult. asp

KeithC


His book is a revelation. I don't think I had appreciated how many forms
of mushroom/fungi there were. The photography is wonderful. Even with
the book in my hand I wouldn't dare to positively identify something in the
wild. Even so, the book is well worth having.

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Not a great picture (Nick's camera-phone), but any chance anyone can guess
the
mushroom identity?
http://comps.org/vicky/mushroom.jpg

It was growing in a tray of flower-seedlings, where I had shoved the
packet in
the edge of the soil and it had got damp.

(It's about 1/5" tall, with a slightly shaggy top, nothing of note under
the
soil - that's the soil it came from on top of the packet)


The sample is rather small but it looks to me like Coprinus comatus (Shaggy
Ink Cap) not fully grown.
Very tasty fried in a little butter.
R.


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The sample is rather small but it looks to me like Coprinus comatus
(Shaggy Ink Cap) not fully grown.
Very tasty fried in a little butter.
R.


I just realised what I said - of course do not eat it until you have
definitely confirmed the ID.
:-(
R.


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I see that there is a C comatus shown growing in a plant pot on the R Phillips page, so perhaps this is where the idea this might be C Comatus is coming from, but it really doesn't look like it to me.

But before advising people to eat C comatus, you need to say a bit more. Because of chemical changes occuring after it is picked, you have to cook it within 4 hours of picking. Also must not be eaten after gills hvae started to blacken. Also it contains chemicals that react with alcohol, so you mustn't drink alcohol within a period of eating it, though some people get away with it.


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