"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
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"Christina Websell" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote
Just had a mail to tell me BT are no longer providing Usenet access,
turns out they had a tie up with Giganews which is finishing, and
suggesting we all migrate to Giganews directly (from US$4.99 to US$29.99
per month!). Makes News.individual.net look cheap.

My ISP dropped Usenet years ago so I went to News individual.net which
would be cheap at 5 times the price (10 euros/year) They provide a good
service: they filter out almost all spam and there is always a real person
on the end of the email if you need help.
However, I understand Plusnet still support Usenet, you might consider
swapping your ISP to them. I've considered it myself to get free Usenet
access, but tbh, it's too much trouble to save 10 euros.
I recommend NIN and it's not difficult to sign up with them.
https://news.individual.net/


I already use NIN for non-binary Ngs (as well as BT) as they cut out all
the rubbish but it's the binary one I'm interested in although it
certainly isn't worth paying extra for.
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Plusnet will probably do it all. I'm far too afraid to swap to them.

Christina Websell wrote:

Plusnet will probably do it all. I'm far too afraid to swap to them.

Plusnet use giganews (same as BT currently) but they don't provide
binary groups.

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
.. .
Christina Websell wrote:

Plusnet will probably do it all. I'm far too afraid to swap to them.

Plusnet use giganews (same as BT currently) but they don't provide binary
groups.


Does any UK ISP now? Most don't even provide access to Usenet any more

On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 21:37:47 -0000, Christina Websell wrote:

Plusnet will probably do it all. I'm far too afraid to swap to
them.

Plusnet use giganews (same as BT currently) but they don't provide

binary groups.

Does any UK ISP now? Most don't even provide access to Usenet any more

Why do people think they have to use their ISP's provided service(s)
for mail, news, "home page", WHY? The ISP just provides a connection
into the Internet. Everyone can pick and choose the services they
require from other providers.

Getting a domain name and cheap/free/included mail service is
probably what everyone should do. You are then no longer tied (via an
ISP based email address) to your ISP.

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Cheers
Dave.

On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:57:50 +0000 (GMT),
Dave Liquorice wrote:
Why do people think they have to use their ISP's provided service(s)
for mail, news, "home page", WHY? The ISP just provides a connection
into the Internet. Everyone can pick and choose the services they
require from other providers.

So far I am becking this.

Getting a domain name and cheap/free/included mail service is
probably what everyone should do. You are then no longer tied (via an
ISP based email address) to your ISP.

But now you do not talk about usenet and would anyway be in trouble
getting usenet-access into the context... ;-)
Try and prove me wrong... I would be pleased and follow any of your
advice on the spot.

Michael
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:13:58 +0100, Michael Uplawski wrote:

Getting a domain name and cheap/free/included mail service is
probably what everyone should do. You are then no longer tied (via
an
ISP based email address) to your ISP.

But now you do not talk about usenet and would anyway be in trouble
getting usenet-access into the context... ;-)

Access, probably but admin. ie when the usenet service provider needs
to contact you a couple of years after you have signed up and you
have switched ISP, having "fixed" email address is helpful.

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Dave.

In article o.uk,
says...

Why do people think they have to use their ISP's provided service(s)
for mail, news, "home page", WHY?


You made me think RIP zetnet and its excellent newsreader (iirc you
were one of the zetnuts)

Janet

On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:19:15 -0000, Janet wrote:

Why do people think they have to use their ISP's provided
service(s)
for mail, news, "home page", WHY?

You made me think RIP zetnet and its excellent newsreader (iirc you
were one of the zetnuts)

Naw, my internet claim to fame is being a Founder Member of Demon
Internet.

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Cheers
Dave.

On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:49:39 +0100,
Martin wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:03:49 +0100, Martin wrote:

The current version of Agent and Forte's news server are the current
best and cheapest way of accessing binary newsgroups.

Maybe I should have said easiest way of downloading from binary groups
involving the least effort.

Thanks for clarifying. I was about to ask what you wanted to say with
that. ;-)

I only add to your last statement “, under Windows, and if you are
accustomed to such software.�

Michael
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:04:50 +0100,
Martin wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:09:51 +0100, Michael Uplawski
wrote:

The current version of Agent and Forte's news server are the current
best and cheapest way of accessing binary newsgroups.
(...)
People use Agent with Linux and Wine

But then, your statement have to be disjoint. ;-)

My grandma made the best potato-salad.
.... ever.

(Not on Youtube)

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"Martin" wrote in message d Wine

But then, your statement have to be disjoint. ;-)

Blame the wine.


My grandma made the best potato-salad.
... ever.

(Not on Youtube)

At the tome mine made the best Yorkshire Pudding :-)
--

Martin in Zuid Holland


I make a very good Yorkshire pudding although I hesitate to say it's the
best in the world but it's close.
It rises through the next shelf of my oven.

On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:30:49 Martin wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 20:42:43 -0000, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"Martin" wrote in message d Wine

But then, your statement have to be disjoint. ;-)

Blame the wine.


My grandma made the best potato-salad.
... ever.

(Not on Youtube)

At the time mine made the best Yorkshire Pudding :-)

I make a very good Yorkshire pudding although I hesitate to say it's the
best in the world but it's close.
It rises through the next shelf of my oven.

My wife makes the best YP on the world.
There used to be a Scarborough hotel chef who in winter toured mainland
European
holiday exhibitions as a participant on the Yorkshire part of the British
stands. He really made the best YPs ever. On the strength of his YPs, my Dutch
neighbours spent two weeks on a caravan holiday in the cold and rain in
Scotland one August.

Perhaps they should have spent the two weeks in Yorkshire. Anyone could
tell you that it is wet and cold in Scotland in August. And foggy. My
wife says so.

Can't quite see the logic of going to Scotland because they like
Yorkshire pudding.

David

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David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:46:49 +0000, David Rance

wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:30:49 Martin wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 20:42:43 -0000, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"Martin" wrote in message d Wine

But then, your statement have to be disjoint. ;-)

Blame the wine.


My grandma made the best potato-salad.
... ever.

(Not on Youtube)

At the time mine made the best Yorkshire Pudding :-)

I make a very good Yorkshire pudding although I hesitate to say it's the
best in the world but it's close.
It rises through the next shelf of my oven.

My wife makes the best YP on the world.
There used to be a Scarborough hotel chef who in winter toured mainland
European
holiday exhibitions as a participant on the Yorkshire part of the British
stands. He really made the best YPs ever. On the strength of his YPs, my
Dutch
neighbours spent two weeks on a caravan holiday in the cold and rain in
Scotland one August.

Perhaps they should have spent the two weeks in Yorkshire. Anyone could
tell you that it is wet and cold in Scotland in August. And foggy. My
wife says so.


I endorse that. By coincidence we were in Scotland at the same time as
they
were. It was ironic that that August was one of the hottest of the century
in
Yorkshire and that they arrived and departed via Hull.


Can't quite see the logic of going to Scotland because they like
Yorkshire pudding.

They thought YP was available everywhere in UK. The YP was demonstrated
on the British stand.

And isn't it? You can even buy small ones ready made now, frozen, which
assumes you can make the rest of the roast dinner yourself.
And I'm not buying into the stereotype of "Scots only eat fried Mars Bars"
My father was Scottish and AFAIK never saw one of those, let alone ate one.

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 20:42:43 -0000, "Christina Websell"
wrote:


"Martin" wrote in message d Wine

But then, your statement have to be disjoint. ;-)

Blame the wine.


My grandma made the best potato-salad.
... ever.

(Not on Youtube)

At the time mine made the best Yorkshire Pudding :-)

I make a very good Yorkshire pudding although I hesitate to say it's the
best in the world but it's close.
It rises through the next shelf of my oven.

My wife makes the best YP on the world.
There used to be a Scarborough hotel chef who in winter toured mainland
European
holiday exhibitions as a participant on the Yorkshire part of the British
stands. He really made the best YPs ever. On the strength of his YPs, my
Dutch
neighbours spent two weeks on a caravan holiday in the cold and rain in
Scotland one August.
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g
When my German friend came to stay for the first time, she'd never
experienced a Yorkshire pudding. She loved it. She went home knowing how to
make one but she's a vegetarian, and a YP with a veggie meal doesn't have
quite the same impact unless you have Quorn (which only recently arrived in
her local town this year)

It's easy to fail with YP's. The secret is to have your fat almost smoking
hot before you pour the batter in your tin and then do NOT open the oven
again until it is cooked.
Don't open the oven when the YP is in there to check on your meat otherwise
you'll end up with a flat biscuit type of thing.

On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 18:08:35 -0000, Christina Websell wrote:

She went home knowing how to make one but she's a vegetarian, and a YP
with a veggie meal doesn't have quite the same impact unless you have
Quorn (which only recently arrived in her local town this year)

eh? Giant Yorkshire filled with a vegetable stew made with gravy,
winter vegies are best, carrot, parsnip, potatoe. Lovely on a winters
evening.

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Cheers
Dave.