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Bt are dropping Usenet
[Access to Usenet]
I am accessing usenet, posting on and reading newsgroups since around 1996. Which does not mean a lot, as you can do an arbitrary amount of bungling during your “35 years” of experience in any job. But I have made observations and even got to understanding “technology”. The (declared) ability and (declared) determination of any service to render your experience with their use of a *well-defined technology* more comfortable should not influence your decision to pay them or not. The technology in this case is usenet or the uses of the nntp-protocol, more exactly (anyone still on uucp ? Thanks. Thought so.) I am using several open and free news-services (branching to an arbitrary number of news-servers) simultaneously: open-news-network netfront aioe solani eternal-september Anything which is not open-news-network just adds content in case that the previous cannot. If they work and provide me with news-articles, any one of these services does the *same job*. The fact that some more or less eagerly respond to complaints about their users “spamming” or “trolling” decides about their position in my list but not more. If there still are trollposts to handle, filtering is done by me alone as I deem nobody else capable to decide in my place what I consider spam or trolling. I won't explain all of this in detail, as, in addition, I am not familiar with Windows, these days and wishing to control your own machine appears to become unpopular with today's Internet-users. I only say, that the simple use of free and open news-services creates no problem, nor does it AFAIS and a priori impose constraints for my access to nntp-newsgroups. My former internet access-providers gave me Usenet-access and all have stopped to do so. All of these services were flawed in one way or other. I appreciate, that nowadays, the best Usenet-services are offered by people who really *want* to do the job rather than add Usenet as a gimmick to their produce. I cannot say all that in fewer words. Sorry. ;-) Michael (Kraut-Frog) -- Location: Lower Normandy (Orne), France GnuPG/OpenPGP 4096R/3216CF02 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] sub 4096R/2751C550 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] |
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"Michael Uplawski" wrote in message ki.eu... --I cannot say all that in fewer words. Sorry. ;-) Michael (Kraut-Frog) -- Location: Lower Normandy (Orne), France ---- Heh heh, that's an excellent listing (saved for further consultation). I am building up quite a dossier on this ☺ Grenou Location: West Sussex (mother Frog-father Cheesehead) ! Normandy, Upper or Lower, is great ☺ |
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"Martin" wrote in message ... On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:02:23 -0000, "Grenou" iamhere@mostofthetime wrote: Heh heh, that's an excellent listing (saved for further consultation). I am building up quite a dossier on this ? Grenou Location: West Sussex (mother Frog-father Cheesehead) ! Not the original GWB cheese eating surrender monkey? :-) Normandy, Upper or Lower, is great ? -- Martin in Zuid Holland --- Goodness, did I add those question marks? Hmm.. Nope, not a monkey but a KaasKop, a 'pet' name for the Dutch, or it used to be when I lived there (centuries ago) ;-) Grenou |
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Attention. If you write your responses below the symbol
--[ ] (dash dash space) the next poster cannot respond directly to your posting, as it will get cut right there. It is the purpose of these symbols to cut of the signature in the responses. On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:57:28 -0000, Grenou iamhere@mostofthetime wrote: [KaasKop] It is still used in Germany, although many pronounce the cheese in German: „Käskopp” for the singular and in northern Germany, they even alter the ”head” as in their local idiom, when referring to the Dutch in plural: „Käsköpp”. -- Location: Lower Normandy (Orne), France GnuPG/OpenPGP 4096R/3216CF02 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] sub 4096R/2751C550 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] |
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I'll stay at the top this time..
Thanks for the explanation :-) German was not my best subject at school, but even I can translate all that ;-) Grenou -- "Michael Uplawski" wrote in message ki.eu... Attention. If you write your responses below the symbol --[ ] (dash dash space) the next poster cannot respond directly to your posting, as it will get cut right there. It is the purpose of these symbols to cut of the signature in the responses. On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:57:28 -0000, Grenou iamhere@mostofthetime wrote: [KaasKop] It is still used in Germany, although many pronounce the cheese in German: „Käskopp” for the singular and in northern Germany, they even alter the ”head” as in their local idiom, when referring to the Dutch in plural: „Käsköpp”. -- Location: Lower Normandy (Orne), France GnuPG/OpenPGP 4096R/3216CF02 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] sub 4096R/2751C550 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] |
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It's best to stay on top here
Mike .................................................. advert soon, watch this space. "Grenou" wrote in message ... I'll stay at the top this time.. Thanks for the explanation :-) German was not my best subject at school, but even I can translate all that ;-) Grenou -- "Michael Uplawski" wrote in message ki.eu... Attention. If you write your responses below the symbol --[ ] (dash dash space) the next poster cannot respond directly to your posting, as it will get cut right there. It is the purpose of these symbols to cut of the signature in the responses. On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:57:28 -0000, Grenou iamhere@mostofthetime wrote: [KaasKop] It is still used in Germany, although many pronounce the cheese in German: „Käskopp” for the singular and in northern Germany, they even alter the ”head” as in their local idiom, when referring to the Dutch in plural: „Käsköpp”. -- Location: Lower Normandy (Orne), France GnuPG/OpenPGP 4096R/3216CF02 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] sub 4096R/2751C550 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] |
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*Attention*. If you write your responses *below* the symbol
--[ ] (dash dash space) the next poster cannot respond directly to your posting, as it will get cut right there. It is the purpose of these symbols to cut off the signature in the responses. On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:57:28 -0000, Grenou iamhere@mostofthetime wrote: [KaasKop] It is still used in Germany, although many pronounce the cheese in German: „Käskopp” for the singular and in northern Germany, they even alter the ”head” as in their local idiom, when referring to the Dutch in plural: „Käsköpp”. -- Location: Lower Normandy (Orne), France GnuPG/OpenPGP 4096R/3216CF02 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] sub 4096R/2751C550 2013-11-15 [expires: 2015-11-15] |
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"Michael Uplawski" wrote
[Access to Usenet] I am accessing usenet, posting on and reading newsgroups since around 1996. Which does not mean a lot, as you can do an arbitrary amount of bungling during your “35 years” of experience in any job. But I have made observations and even got to understanding “technology”. The (declared) ability and (declared) determination of any service to render your experience with their use of a *well-defined technology* more comfortable should not influence your decision to pay them or not. The technology in this case is usenet or the uses of the nntp-protocol, more exactly (anyone still on uucp ? Thanks. Thought so.) I am using several open and free news-services (branching to an arbitrary number of news-servers) simultaneously: open-news-network netfront aioe solani eternal-september Anything which is not open-news-network just adds content in case that the previous cannot. If they work and provide me with news-articles, any one of these services does the *same job*. The fact that some more or less eagerly respond to complaints about their users “spamming” or “trolling” decides about their position in my list but not more. If there still are trollposts to handle, filtering is done by me alone as I deem nobody else capable to decide in my place what I consider spam or trolling. I won't explain all of this in detail, as, in addition, I am not familiar with Windows, these days and wishing to control your own machine appears to become unpopular with today's Internet-users. I only say, that the simple use of free and open news-services creates no problem, nor does it AFAIS and a priori impose constraints for my access to nntp-newsgroups. My former internet access-providers gave me Usenet-access and all have stopped to do so. All of these services were flawed in one way or other. I appreciate, that nowadays, the best Usenet-services are offered by people who really *want* to do the job rather than add Usenet as a gimmick to their produce. I cannot say all that in fewer words. Sorry. Has anyone here tried these suggested on another Ng...... http://www.teranews.com/ It's a US$3.95 one off charge then free. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Michael Uplawski" wrote [Access to Usenet] I am accessing usenet, posting on and reading newsgroups since around 1996. Which does not mean a lot, as you can do an arbitrary amount of bungling during your "35 years" of experience in any job. But I have made observations and even got to understanding "technology". The (declared) ability and (declared) determination of any service to render your experience with their use of a *well-defined technology* more comfortable should not influence your decision to pay them or not. The technology in this case is usenet or the uses of the nntp-protocol, more exactly (anyone still on uucp ? Thanks. Thought so.) I am using several open and free news-services (branching to an arbitrary number of news-servers) simultaneously: open-news-network netfront aioe solani eternal-september Anything which is not open-news-network just adds content in case that the previous cannot. If they work and provide me with news-articles, any one of these services does the *same job*. The fact that some more or less eagerly respond to complaints about their users "spamming" or "trolling" decides about their position in my list but not more. If there still are trollposts to handle, filtering is done by me alone as I deem nobody else capable to decide in my place what I consider spam or trolling. I won't explain all of this in detail, as, in addition, I am not familiar with Windows, these days and wishing to control your own machine appears to become unpopular with today's Internet-users. I only say, that the simple use of free and open news-services creates no problem, nor does it AFAIS and a priori impose constraints for my access to nntp-newsgroups. My former internet access-providers gave me Usenet-access and all have stopped to do so. All of these services were flawed in one way or other. I appreciate, that nowadays, the best Usenet-services are offered by people who really *want* to do the job rather than add Usenet as a gimmick to their produce. I cannot say all that in fewer words. Sorry. Has anyone here tried these suggested on another Ng...... http://www.teranews.com/ It's a US$3.95 one off charge then free. Stop trying to avoid that small amount of 10 euros a year. And use News.individual.net. You'll be glad if you do. Trust me on this. Just bite the bullet and use NIN for Usenet access. |
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"Christina Websell" wrote
Has anyone here tried these suggested on another Ng...... http://www.teranews.com/ It's a US$3.95 one off charge then free. Stop trying to avoid that small amount of 10 euros a year. And use News.individual.net. You'll be glad if you do. Trust me on this. Just bite the bullet and use NIN for Usenet access. Yes I already do, have done for years, but they don't do binary groups. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote
Has anyone here tried these suggested on another Ng...... http://www.teranews.com/ It's a US$3.95 one off charge then free. After a lot of research I've decided to try Teranews at US $3.95 one off payment and so far it's doing OK. I shall continue to use NIN for non-binary Ngs. -- Regards. Bob Hobden. Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK |
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In message , Bob Hobden
writes "Bob Hobden" wrote Has anyone here tried these suggested on another Ng...... http://www.teranews.com/ It's a US$3.95 one off charge then free. After a lot of research I've decided to try Teranews at US $3.95 one off payment and so far it's doing OK. I shall continue to use NIN for non-binary Ngs. Presumably, there is some daily download limit on Teranews for that price? Typically news servers for binary groups charge a fee for a fixed time, and/or for a certainly amount of download -- Chris French |
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