On 15/03/2015 07:26, Fran Farmer wrote:
so does fumigating their burrows by shoving a hose onto the end of an
exhaust pipe of a leaded petrol car and shoving the end down the burrow
and then closing over all holes with dirt and leaving the car running
for a while. These days that means you have to find an old car where
lead is added to modern fuel

It's not the lead, it's the carbon monoxide that does for them. Anything
without a catalytic converter will do - which includes old diesels as
well as petrol. A lawnmowers would probably do - although you'd have to
run a lawnmower an awfully long time to get much exhaust.

Andy

On 17/03/2015 8:46 AM, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 15/03/2015 07:26, Fran Farmer wrote:
so does fumigating their burrows by shoving a hose onto the end of an
exhaust pipe of a leaded petrol car and shoving the end down the burrow
and then closing over all holes with dirt and leaving the car running
for a while. These days that means you have to find an old car where
lead is added to modern fuel

It's not the lead, it's the carbon monoxide that does for them. Anything
without a catalytic converter will do - which includes old diesels as
well as petrol. A lawnmowers would probably do - although you'd have to
run a lawnmower an awfully long time to get much exhaust.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that it was the lead in the fuel - I was
trying to say that older petrol engined cars are the ones to use.

Diesel engined vehicles are, for some reason,deemed to be 'useless'. I
don't know whether that is just an old farmer's tale but it's always
older petrol cars that have the lead to added to the fuel that are used
regardless of any diesel powered vehicles that might be on hand.

I've used the old petrol car exhaust trick on rat burrows round my chook
pens using my 1952 Morris Minor. That worked for quite a while.

I'm girding my loins to do a rabbit burrow on the edge of our 'lawn'
where the blasted bunnies have dug a warren between 2 rocks. There are
a few fox poos round the entrance and at least 8 rabbits have been shot
at dusk on the 'lawn'. But it needs even more action taken. I'm
thinking an old Riley might be the way to go this time round.

In article ,
Fran Farmer wrote:

On 17/03/2015 8:46 AM, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 15/03/2015 07:26, Fran Farmer wrote:
so does fumigating their burrows by shoving a hose onto the end of an
exhaust pipe of a leaded petrol car and shoving the end down the burrow
and then closing over all holes with dirt and leaving the car running
for a while. These days that means you have to find an old car where
lead is added to modern fuel

It's not the lead, it's the carbon monoxide that does for them. Anything
without a catalytic converter will do - which includes old diesels as
well as petrol. A lawnmowers would probably do - although you'd have to
run a lawnmower an awfully long time to get much exhaust.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that it was the lead in the fuel - I was
trying to say that older petrol engined cars are the ones to use.

Diesel engined vehicles are, for some reason,deemed to be 'useless'. I
don't know whether that is just an old farmer's tale but it's always
older petrol cars that have the lead to added to the fuel that are used
regardless of any diesel powered vehicles that might be on hand.

I've used the old petrol car exhaust trick on rat burrows round my chook
pens using my 1952 Morris Minor. That worked for quite a while.

I'm girding my loins to do a rabbit burrow on the edge of our 'lawn'
where the blasted bunnies have dug a warren between 2 rocks. There are
a few fox poos round the entrance and at least 8 rabbits have been shot
at dusk on the 'lawn'. But it needs even more action taken. I'm
thinking an old Riley might be the way to go this time round.

Your garage sounds at least as interesting as your garden :-)

J.

On 17/03/2015 09:25, Another John wrote:
In article ,
Fran Farmer wrote:

On 17/03/2015 8:46 AM, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 15/03/2015 07:26, Fran Farmer wrote:
so does fumigating their burrows by shoving a hose onto the end of an
exhaust pipe of a leaded petrol car and shoving the end down the burrow
and then closing over all holes with dirt and leaving the car running
for a while. These days that means you have to find an old car where
lead is added to modern fuel

It's not the lead, it's the carbon monoxide that does for them. Anything
without a catalytic converter will do - which includes old diesels as
well as petrol. A lawnmowers would probably do - although you'd have to
run a lawnmower an awfully long time to get much exhaust.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that it was the lead in the fuel - I was
trying to say that older petrol engined cars are the ones to use.

Diesel engined vehicles are, for some reason,deemed to be 'useless'. I
don't know whether that is just an old farmer's tale but it's always
older petrol cars that have the lead to added to the fuel that are used
regardless of any diesel powered vehicles that might be on hand.

I've used the old petrol car exhaust trick on rat burrows round my chook
pens using my 1952 Morris Minor. That worked for quite a while.

I'm girding my loins to do a rabbit burrow on the edge of our 'lawn'
where the blasted bunnies have dug a warren between 2 rocks. There are
a few fox poos round the entrance and at least 8 rabbits have been shot
at dusk on the 'lawn'. But it needs even more action taken. I'm
thinking an old Riley might be the way to go this time round.

Your garage sounds at least as interesting as your garden :-)

J.

You need a man with a ferret.

On 17/03/2015 8:25 PM, Another John wrote:
In article ,
Fran Farmer wrote:

On 17/03/2015 8:46 AM, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 15/03/2015 07:26, Fran Farmer wrote:
so does fumigating their burrows by shoving a hose onto the end of an
exhaust pipe of a leaded petrol car and shoving the end down the burrow
and then closing over all holes with dirt and leaving the car running
for a while. These days that means you have to find an old car where
lead is added to modern fuel

It's not the lead, it's the carbon monoxide that does for them. Anything
without a catalytic converter will do - which includes old diesels as
well as petrol. A lawnmowers would probably do - although you'd have to
run a lawnmower an awfully long time to get much exhaust.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that it was the lead in the fuel - I was
trying to say that older petrol engined cars are the ones to use.

Diesel engined vehicles are, for some reason,deemed to be 'useless'. I
don't know whether that is just an old farmer's tale but it's always
older petrol cars that have the lead to added to the fuel that are used
regardless of any diesel powered vehicles that might be on hand.

I've used the old petrol car exhaust trick on rat burrows round my chook
pens using my 1952 Morris Minor. That worked for quite a while.

I'm girding my loins to do a rabbit burrow on the edge of our 'lawn'
where the blasted bunnies have dug a warren between 2 rocks. There are
a few fox poos round the entrance and at least 8 rabbits have been shot
at dusk on the 'lawn'. But it needs even more action taken. I'm
thinking an old Riley might be the way to go this time round.

Your garage sounds at least as interesting as your garden :-)

LOL. His garage is very interesting. My only involvement is to lift or
hold or jump in when told to do so or to say "Really dear? How
dreadful/nice".

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On 17/03/2015 8:46 AM, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 15/03/2015 07:26, Fran Farmer wrote:
so does fumigating their burrows by shoving a hose onto the end of an
exhaust pipe of a leaded petrol car and shoving the end down the burrow
and then closing over all holes with dirt and leaving the car running
for a while. These days that means you have to find an old car where
lead is added to modern fuel


I do rats like that. We use a hedgecutter engine to smoke them out into the
jaws of the terriers. It's so much kinder than poisoning. Either the rats
are dead immediately or they get away.
I stopped poisoning ages ago after i kept find rats dying slowly and had to
kill them myself.
So I have the dogs in. they re very good. My cat has to stay inside
otherwise he'd be an ex-cat.
So they the terriers sweep through. No rat will live. Although once a very
big rat here took off half a terrier's nose but she didn't mind. She killed
it anyway. It was under tree roots and she dug it out, and it gripped on to
her face.
Boyfie says no about big rats. He does the little ones.
Big ones with chisel teeth, absolutely not.

"Vir Campestris" wrote in message
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On 15/03/2015 07:26, Fran Farmer wrote:
so does fumigating their burrows by shoving a hose onto the end of an
exhaust pipe of a leaded petrol car and shoving the end down the burrow
and then closing over all holes with dirt and leaving the car running
for a while. These days that means you have to find an old car where
lead is added to modern fuel

It's not the lead, it's the carbon monoxide that does for them. Anything
without a catalytic converter will do - which includes old diesels as well
as petrol. A lawnmowers would probably do - although you'd have to run a
lawnmower an awfully long time to get much exhaust.

Andy

I do this for rats, we run a lawnmower engine under the chicken huts and the
rats run out into the jaws of the terriers. Snap. Into ratty heaven
instantly, much better thsn poison which I refuse to use since I had to kill
one dying slowly once when I used it. Never again. The poor thing took
ages to die until I firmed up and bashed it on the head with a brick - which
was difficult.
Terriers are best with rats, they either kill them immediately or they get
away for another time to meet the terriers again. A big rat almost bit the
nose off one of the terriers.
Boyfie kills the small rats. He is not brave enough to tackle the big ones
with huge brown chisel teeth. He needs the terriers for that.