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from Rick McGreal contains these words:


The only other suggestion is not to move to a place where there is a lot of
social problems....Although how do you know until you move there?

Take a good hard look round the neighbourhood and the people who hang
around it, by day *and by evening*...whether it's in town or in a rural
village.

What proportion of houses have prominent burglar alarms and security
lights? Do local businesses use steel roller shutters over doors and
windows? Who is out and about on foot after dark... women and elderly
people, dog walkers, teenage hangers about, drunks, gangs of kids,
nobody at all? Do people greet passing strangers? Are the nearby roads
and pavements decorated with CCTV cameras,speed cameras and humps,
litter, broken glass, vomit stains, pretty plant-tubs, seats,
windowboxes, community notice boards? What's in the public phonebox?

Have a drink in the local pub during a weekend evening, read the local
paper, chat to barmen and newsagents, look up the minutes of the local
community council.

Janet

The message
from "Charlie" contains these words:

Martin Day (the DJ) was saying something similar - if they don't respond
quickly, phone them back and tell them your just shot the burglar. They
would be there in a few minutes then!

Both that and falsely claiming an armed intruder , may falsely divert
police from genuine armed attacks. At the very least you could expect a
very long interview and at worst, be charged with wasting police time;
and like the boy who called wolf, don't expect to be believed, when you
really need them urgently.

Janet.

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from Exiddor contains these words:

I solved the problem by putting railings along the top of my section of the
garden wall, but my neighbour (an old lady of 70-something) can not afford
anything like this.

Combine the altruistic gathering of dogpoo from local pavements, and a
trowel. Rain will clean it off the wall top after the teens have moved
on.

Janet.

Thus spake "andyp"


I have a 3foot wall and suffered similar problems. I planted some standard
pyracantha (sp?) so the tops of the plant rested on the wall. While this was
establishing itself I entwined cut brambles, rose and holly into the
pyracantha.
I no longer suffer people of any age wanting to sit or rest on the wall and
the hedge looks stunning to.

I have MS and can't walk very far. Sometimes I need to sit down for a
short while before I continue walking.

Thanks a bunch, chum!

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

The message
from "Charlie" contains these words:

Martin Day (the DJ) was saying something similar - if they don't respond
quickly, phone them back and tell them your just shot the burglar. They
would be there in a few minutes then! I don't advise this at all, and I'm
entirely sure he was kidding...

May I just point out that top-posting your replies sometimes makes it
very difficult to reply coherently without cutting and pasting the
quoted text. (Though not this time)

Someone I know told another group that she phoned to police because she
could see two youths breaking into her shed. The police said they didn't
have anyone available at the time.

A short while later she phoned them back and said not to worry, as she'd
shot them.

Within a minute or so the dibble were swarming all over the place and
apprehended the burglars.

PC Dibble to friend: "I thought you said you'd shot them?"
Friend to PC Dibble: "I thought you said you had no-one available?"

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from "Cupra" contains these words:

On to the burglar.... I have heard people talk about reporting
intruders as armed so the police respond quickly.... I wouldn't
condone this of course!!!

Oh, hofficer - I don't know if that's a pistol in his pocket or if he's
just pleased to see me...?

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from "K" contains these words:

I wonder if it would be OK if the lady handed them a letter next time they
are on the wall, explaining that she is going to paint it with non-dry paint
and keeps a copy of the letter for herself. Thus, they have been warned.

That assumes they are the only people ever to touch the wall.

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from "Drakanthus" contains these words:

Having witnessed the antics of the police late one night through my bedroom
window, I certainly wouldn't recommend it. Some police can be a bit
heavy handed.
You just might get shot yourself! I saw a policeman attack an unarmed
helpless
drunk with pepper spray one night. The policemen were laughing and
joking with
each other on the street about it. I subsequently discovered that the
man was
known to the police and had been out celebrating his release from
prison. There
was obviously a history of bad blood between them. They arrested the man for
resisting arrest. He wasn't resisting at all - just shouting that he
couldn't
see - not surprising really with a face full of pepper spray.

I trust you made a report to the Chief Constable?

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The message
from Exiddor contains these words:

I live in a semi located on a corner of a road and we are constantly
disturbed by youths sitting on the garden wall, drinking and shouting until
the early hours.

I solved the problem by putting railings along the top of my section of the
garden wall, but my neighbour (an old lady of 70-something) can not afford
anything like this.

Can anyone suggest a cheap (legal!) solution to this problem?

A nice spiky bramble trained over it? One of the spiny burberis clan?

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"Cupra" wrote in message
...
How tall is the wall? If it's quite low then *don't* try anti-climb paint
(never dries fully) - she would be liable for damage to clothes!

Top-post reply repositioned

Why would you be liable? It's your wall and it's their fault they sat on
it!

Why is Tony Martin in prison?

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In article , dave @ stejonda
writes
You will find that if you approach them in a civil manner, they will
listen and act accordingly,

I tried that once, in a similar situation, years ago; got a load of
abuse in reply (
My neighbour heard my polite pleas and took pity on me; she just yelled
at them "bugger off you * * * * " . . . and they did!!
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
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In article , K
writes

I wonder if it would be OK if the lady handed them a letter next time they
are on the wall, explaining that she is going to paint it with non-dry paint
and keeps a copy of the letter for herself. Thus, they have been warned.

So they then take to chucking bricks through her windows (
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Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer ^W^W^W^W uk.rec.gardening, I
heard Exiddor say...
I live in a semi located on a corner of a road and we are constantly
disturbed by youths sitting on the garden wall, drinking and shouting until
the early hours.

I solved the problem by putting railings along the top of my section of the
garden wall, but my neighbour (an old lady of 70-something) can not afford
anything like this.

Can anyone suggest a cheap (legal!) solution to this problem?


Plant something prickly - Pyracantha, holly etc, next to the wall and
let it grow out over the top of the wall.
--
Fenny
Fictitious Facts of the Day - From a list by Andrew Burford
#188 - 2,000,000egg cartons and 3,500,00 washing up liquid bottles went
into the making of Star Wars

Xref: kermit uk.rec.gardening:140874


"Charlie" wrote in message
...
Martin Day (the DJ) was saying something similar - if they don't respond
quickly, phone them back and tell them your just shot the burglar. They
would be there in a few minutes then! I don't advise this at all, and I'm
entirely sure he was kidding...

Charlie.



Charlie
Reminds me of a joke my mate told me! This is a shortened version!

Man rings police and says there is a man in my garden can you help?

Policeman says 'Sorry we have no one to send out!'

Man rings back 10 minutes later and says that he has shot the man with a
gun!

The police turn up within minutes and search the mans home for a gun! When
they can't find one they say to the man 'I thought you said you had a gun?'

Man replies, 'I thought you said you had no one to send out?'



Badger

"Exiddor" wrote in message ...
I live in a semi located on a corner of a road and we are constantly
disturbed by youths sitting on the garden wall, drinking and shouting
until
the early hours.

I solved the problem by putting railings along the top of my section of
the
garden wall, but my neighbour (an old lady of 70-something) can not afford
anything like this.

Can anyone suggest a cheap (legal!) solution to this problem?


Presumably it's a low wall with brick pillars every couple of yards? If so
get some vine eyes, screw those into each pillar and attach some good garden
wire making sure it's tight. They then can't sit down comfortably and will
wander off elsewhere.
Then grow some climbing plants up them, or something like Berberris with
thorns.

--
Bob

www.pooleygreengrowers.org.uk/ about an Allotment site in
Runnymede fighting for it's existence.