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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
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I've quoted your post in full, Charlie; now imagine you are someone
who has just downloaded it in today's posts. Could they make head or
tail of what you're on about, or who said what?
For everyone's sake, it would be a courtesy to edit and reply in the
accepted usenet way.

Actually, I replied directly above the previous poster in a thread of top
posting.

This is not "a thread of top posting". The competent gardeners and
usenetters in it are bottom posting.

If you have a problem with the way I post to Usenet please skip
over my posts.

That's the usual fate of posters like yourself.

Janet.

Janet
I have been posting on NGs since 1999 and you are the first person I have
ever encountered that tells people how they should post!

Have I posted this incorrectly?

It's not at the top or at the bottom!

Still makes sense though! ;o)


Badger

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ination says...
Janet
I have been posting on NGs since 1999 and you are the first person I have
ever encountered that tells people how they should post!

Have I posted this incorrectly?

It's not at the top or at the bottom!

Still makes sense though! ;o)

What are you replying to?

I've been away for a week or so and yours is the only message in this
part of the thread. What did she say?

Some context would come in handy. Snipping is a great habit... if you
snip the irrelevant stuff and leave the stuff you're commenting on.

Warwick -- somewhat bemused

"Warwick" wrote in message
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In article ,
ination says...
Janet
I have been posting on NGs since 1999 and you are the first person I
have
ever encountered that tells people how they should post!

Have I posted this incorrectly?

It's not at the top or at the bottom!

Still makes sense though! ;o)

What are you replying to?

I've been away for a week or so and yours is the only message in this
part of the thread. What did she say?

Some context would come in handy. Snipping is a great habit... if you
snip the irrelevant stuff and leave the stuff you're commenting on.

Warwick -- somewhat bemused

As you can see my post it is directed personally to Janet hence her name
appearing at the top!

If you are not Janet then you shouldn't be concerned

Badger

Why have you

"Little Badger" wrote in message
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"Warwick" wrote in message
news:MPG.194acfaa211c12d998977c@lateinos...
In article ,
ination says...
Janet
I have been posting on NGs since 1999 and you are the first person I
have
ever encountered that tells people how they should post!

Have I posted this incorrectly?

It's not at the top or at the bottom!

Still makes sense though! ;o)

What are you replying to?

I've been away for a week or so and yours is the only message in this
part of the thread. What did she say?

Some context would come in handy. Snipping is a great habit... if you
snip the irrelevant stuff and leave the stuff you're commenting on.

Warwick -- somewhat bemused

As you can see my post it is directed personally to Janet hence her name
appearing at the top!

If you are not Janet then you shouldn't be concerned

Badger


suddenly started putting your bit at the bottom ????

Mike

Little Badger wrote:


As you can see my post it is directed personally to Janet hence her name
appearing at the top!

That is normally time to take it to email then.

After several years (ling before 99!) of usenet the following seems to work
well for me.

Snip heavily - leave just enough to give context. This means there is lkess
being held on news servers so retention times (how long a psot is available
for) go up. It also cuts the time taken for people on dialup connections to
download.

"bottom" post - it encourages snipping. I actually post in the middle as well.
It just seems to flow better when reading it, particularly if there is a
complex discussion going on. This leads to a flow a little like this within a
single posting:

Your point

My comments about this point.

Your next point

Then I might have something to say about that.

I also use blank lines to give a better separation and hopefully make it easier
to read.

This is just the way I do things, but is heavily influenced by conventions and
RFCs. Do a web search of you want more info.

Paul.
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Paul Matthews

http://www.hepcats.co.uk

On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 10:55:27 +0100, Paul Matthews wrote:

This is just the way I do things, but is heavily influenced by conventions and
RFCs. Do a web search of you want more info.

Let me add two comments:

1. Anyone new to newsgroups is urged to check in with
news.newusers.questions, a newsgroup that is specifically set up
to deal with such questions. Lots of good folks there.

2. Regarding RFC's and conventions, it's important to realize
that they were *not* dreamt up by someone sitting in an ivory
tower, at least not the ones that address netiquette issues like
quoting and snipping and such.

In the early days, folks had to feel their way. No one knew what
worked and what didn't in this line. With experience, a body of
practices was developed that seemed to ease communication. The
RFC's and such are just that body of practice: they are pragmatic
recommendations that improve the readability of your messges by
the recipients.

Take snipping. In the early days, ruthless snipping was important
to conserve bandwidth. That's hardly an issue anymore, but it
turns out that ruthless snipping still works because it reduces
the *mental* bandwidth needed to comprehend a message. We have so
much material being showered down on us that it behooves everyone
to keep their messages as short and succinct as they can -- and
snipping quoted material is one of the tools used to do this.

Those of us who try to follow RFC's do so for selfish reasons: we
want others to read what we have written. But disbelievers and
mavericks can go right ahead and do whatever they want. All
theywill be doing is making their contributions harder to read
and less likely to be responded to.

My three rules:

1. Make sure the subject line is informative. A message with the
subject "Lawn Question" is likely to get skipped over, but "How
Much Lime on the Lawn?" will get my attention.

2. Snip (edit) quoted ruthlessly. Leave just enough quotage to
establish context without falsifying the previous writer's
position.

3. Intersperse your reply point by point among the quoted
material. (If there is only one main point replied to, this
amounts to a call for quote first, reply second.)

4. (Bonus) Even if it takes some time to reformat a badly
formatted message, take the time. Your readership will be
grateful.


--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

In Maryland, USA, I had mixed results "air drying" chiles. I built a drying
rack using some screen wire and wood for a frame, and keep that on top of my
refrigerator. With that, the thinned skinned varieties like Thai Dragon
fared well, but thicker skinned varieties like Serrano still tended to mold.
So I experimented with drying or at least helping them along by putting them
on a tray in a toaster oven on very low heat. They dried well without
molding, but they also lost their pretty natural colors and became brown in
the process.

Then by accident I found a better way.

In season, I would sometimes use only a portion of a fresh pepper, and since
I had my drying tray handy, I began putting the leftover portion of those
peppers in my tray. I discovered that cut open, they dried much faster and
therefore without molding, and kept their nice color as well.

So now I halve or at least cut open my peppers, put them on the drying tray
in that form, and they dry without any help from the oven.

When a batch is dry, I put them in plastic zip-lock bags.

After they all dry, I grind them up with a small electric grinder made for
home use grinding coffee beans. After a couple of times doing this and
getting lots of hot pepper dust in the air, I decided (with a little
"encouragement" from my wife!) that I need to do that job outside.

I had been leaving the stems on until dry, but then it's extra work breaking
them off before the grinding, and even with protective gloves I end up with
pepper dust on my hands afterwards. This year I plan to cut off the stems
when I cut them to dry.

I haven't tried freezing them. I think I'll try that this year also.

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:12:46 +0100, Druss wrote:

"NC" wrote in message
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Hi all,
My chilli plants are starting to bear some nice fruit, and by the looks
of
the number of buds, I'll be getting lots!!
As a result, I'm looking for ways in which to preserve them for later
use -
one of which is to make a hot sause of the type you get in the
supermarket -
peri peri for example.
Anyway, I've found one good looking recipe
(http://olliver.family.gen.nz/chilli_sauce.htm) but can anyone
recommend
any
others ??
One small drawback to the question - I dont know what kind of chillis I
have
!! One plant looks like birdseye, and the other looks like it will bear
larger rounder fruit - maybe habanero (!!!)
Any suggestions much appreciated.


Can they be dried, 'spose to improve their flavour/strength and after
all
it's pretty much what the mexicans do isnt' it ?
Duncan

Chillies dry very well. You can either sun dry them (in the UK? not a
chance), or *sowly* in a warm oven or a microwave on low. Beware - they'll
produce a cloud of pungent chilli-vapour in your kitchen that probably
contravenes most international strategic arms limitation treaties.

I also freeze a lot, they go soggy when thawed, like paprika does, but
they
can be cut reasonably eaisily while still frozen, then bunged in the pan.

You can pickle them, I find a slightly sweet pickling solution to be
perfect for most types, especialy Jalapeno,something like the sweet
pickled-onion liquid would do for a start. Just slit them and make sure
they're not bad inside, and to allow the solution to get everywhere. Do
wash the chillies carefully and only pickle the perfect ones.
Tim.