Does it make any difference {to my rose bushes} whether I dead-head my roses
or not? I've read so much conflicting advice re. this topic.

In article , Pinetree
writes
Does it make any difference {to my rose bushes} whether I dead-head my roses
or not? I've read so much conflicting advice re. this topic.

we had a large bed of Fragrant Clouds which for no other reason that my
mother bought the plants, I seemed to look after them. Yes I dead headed
them and fed them with plenty of manure/compost and they always looked
good. They were in a semi circular bed in the front garden between the
two drives. ALWAYS looked good.

Yes, we dead headed.

Joan is in charge now and she dead heads. (That's why I keep mine moving
about when she is near)

Mike
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Bringing up teenagers is like trying to nail jelly to a tree

Yes, it certainly matters.
If you're growing species or wilder roses for their colourful hips, then do
not dead-head.
If you're growing roses purely for the beauty of their flowers (and as many
of them as possible), then dead-head regularly. This is because the plant
produces flowers in order to produce seed for future progeny. If you remove
that seed - the hip or haw - the plant responds by producing more flowers in
order to replace the lost seed.
It is therefore most important to keep up with rose-feeding, so that the
plant can cope with the demand placed on it,
SPIDER

Pinetree wrote in message
.. .
Does it make any difference {to my rose bushes} whether I dead-head my
roses
or not? I've read so much conflicting advice re. this topic.

In article , Pinetree
writes
Does it make any difference {to my rose bushes} whether I dead-head my roses
or not? I've read so much conflicting advice re. this topic.

we had a large bed of Fragrant Clouds which for no other reason that my
mother bought the plants, I seemed to look after them. Yes I dead headed
them and fed them with plenty of manure/compost and they always looked
good. They were in a semi circular bed in the front garden between the
two drives. ALWAYS looked good.

Yes, we dead headed.

Joan is in charge now and she dead heads. (That's why I keep mine moving
about when she is near)

Mike
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bringing up teenagers is like trying to nail jelly to a tree

In article , Pinetree
writes
Does it make any difference {to my rose bushes} whether I dead-head my roses
or not? I've read so much conflicting advice re. this topic.

we had a large bed of Fragrant Clouds which for no other reason that my
mother bought the plants, I seemed to look after them. Yes I dead headed
them and fed them with plenty of manure/compost and they always looked
good. They were in a semi circular bed in the front garden between the
two drives. ALWAYS looked good.

Yes, we dead headed.

Joan is in charge now and she dead heads. (That's why I keep mine moving
about when she is near)

Mike
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bringing up teenagers is like trying to nail jelly to a tree

In article , Pinetree
writes
Does it make any difference {to my rose bushes} whether I dead-head my roses
or not? I've read so much conflicting advice re. this topic.

we had a large bed of Fragrant Clouds which for no other reason that my
mother bought the plants, I seemed to look after them. Yes I dead headed
them and fed them with plenty of manure/compost and they always looked
good. They were in a semi circular bed in the front garden between the
two drives. ALWAYS looked good.

Yes, we dead headed.

Joan is in charge now and she dead heads. (That's why I keep mine moving
about when she is near)

Mike
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bringing up teenagers is like trying to nail jelly to a tree

Yes, it certainly matters.
If you're growing species or wilder roses for their colourful hips, then do
not dead-head.
If you're growing roses purely for the beauty of their flowers (and as many
of them as possible), then dead-head regularly. This is because the plant
produces flowers in order to produce seed for future progeny. If you remove
that seed - the hip or haw - the plant responds by producing more flowers in
order to replace the lost seed.
It is therefore most important to keep up with rose-feeding, so that the
plant can cope with the demand placed on it,
SPIDER

Pinetree wrote in message
.. .
Does it make any difference {to my rose bushes} whether I dead-head my
roses
or not? I've read so much conflicting advice re. this topic.

Yes, it certainly matters.
If you're growing species or wilder roses for their colourful hips, then do
not dead-head.
If you're growing roses purely for the beauty of their flowers (and as many
of them as possible), then dead-head regularly. This is because the plant
produces flowers in order to produce seed for future progeny. If you remove
that seed - the hip or haw - the plant responds by producing more flowers in
order to replace the lost seed.
It is therefore most important to keep up with rose-feeding, so that the
plant can cope with the demand placed on it,
SPIDER

Pinetree wrote in message
.. .
Does it make any difference {to my rose bushes} whether I dead-head my
roses
or not? I've read so much conflicting advice re. this topic.

Yes, it certainly matters.
If you're growing species or wilder roses for their colourful hips, then do
not dead-head.
If you're growing roses purely for the beauty of their flowers (and as many
of them as possible), then dead-head regularly. This is because the plant
produces flowers in order to produce seed for future progeny. If you remove
that seed - the hip or haw - the plant responds by producing more flowers in
order to replace the lost seed.
It is therefore most important to keep up with rose-feeding, so that the
plant can cope with the demand placed on it,
SPIDER

Pinetree wrote in message
.. .
Does it make any difference {to my rose bushes} whether I dead-head my
roses
or not? I've read so much conflicting advice re. this topic.

Depends on the rose; if you don't deadhead some, you will get no more
flowers.
Others aren't much influenced by deadheading. Safer to deadhead, unless it
is a Rambler,
or a Rugosa rose where you want hips. "Masquerade" is a prime example of a
rose that
must be deadheaded promptly in order to get anymore flowers after June.
DYOR.

Andy

"Pinetree" wrote in message
.. .
Does it make any difference {to my rose bushes} whether I dead-head my
roses
or not? I've read so much conflicting advice re. this topic.

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 21:06:24 +0100, "Spider"
wrote:

It is therefore most important to keep up with rose-feeding, so that the
plant can cope with the demand placed on it,
SPIDER

That said, other than specialised rose fertilisers, what would be
next-best? I have so many different feeds here, I balk at buying yet
another. Would Phostrogen be high enough in P (or is it K?)?

I am assuming here that a soluble feed, for quick take-up, is what is
needed - right or wrong?

Regards, VivienB

Any specialised rose fertiliser is fine, as is tomato fertiliser; they both
help with ripening 'wood' to produce flowers and, subsequently fruits.
In Spring(March/April), I spread a general fertiliser, such as Phostrogen to
get the plants off to a good start. In May, I use either Rose/tomato
fertiliser (whichever I've got) to boost bud and flower formation. By the
end of July at the latest, I apply another spec. rose feed to thank the rose
for flowering and to ripen hips (where wanted), or ripen growth made that
year so that it is not prone to the first hard frosts. Avoid at any costs
feeding with a high nitrogen fertiliser after July as this will cause soft,
sappy growth that will certainly be damaged by frosts.
Yes, I know gardeners feed bare-rooted plants throughout winter when
planting, but they use bone-meal which encourages root growth. Roots do
continue to grow slowly through winter, and are protected to some extent by
the soil layer.
Hope this helps.
SPIDER
VivienB wrote in message
...
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 21:06:24 +0100, "Spider"
wrote:

It is therefore most important to keep up with rose-feeding, so that the
plant can cope with the demand placed on it,
SPIDER

That said, other than specialised rose fertilisers, what would be
next-best? I have so many different feeds here, I balk at buying yet
another. Would Phostrogen be high enough in P (or is it K?)?

I am assuming here that a soluble feed, for quick take-up, is what is
needed - right or wrong?

Regards, VivienB

I've been burying banana skins around the roots all year, and my roses have
been great this year, although blackspot has been more troublesome.

Aileen

"Spider" wrote in message
...
Any specialised rose fertiliser is fine, as is tomato fertiliser; they
both
help with ripening 'wood' to produce flowers and, subsequently fruits.
In Spring(March/April), I spread a general fertiliser, such as Phostrogen
to
get the plants off to a good start. In May, I use either Rose/tomato
fertiliser (whichever I've got) to boost bud and flower formation. By the
end of July at the latest, I apply another spec. rose feed to thank the
rose
for flowering and to ripen hips (where wanted), or ripen growth made that
year so that it is not prone to the first hard frosts. Avoid at any costs
feeding with a high nitrogen fertiliser after July as this will cause
soft,
sappy growth that will certainly be damaged by frosts.
Yes, I know gardeners feed bare-rooted plants throughout winter when
planting, but they use bone-meal which encourages root growth. Roots do
continue to grow slowly through winter, and are protected to some extent
by
the soil layer.
Hope this helps.
SPIDER
VivienB wrote in message
...
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 21:06:24 +0100, "Spider"
wrote:

It is therefore most important to keep up with rose-feeding, so that
the
plant can cope with the demand placed on it,
SPIDER

That said, other than specialised rose fertilisers, what would be
next-best? I have so many different feeds here, I balk at buying yet
another. Would Phostrogen be high enough in P (or is it K?)?

I am assuming here that a soluble feed, for quick take-up, is what is
needed - right or wrong?

Regards, VivienB

"....I've been burying banana skins around the roots all year, and my roses
have been great this year, although blackspot has been more troublesome.
......"

What do you expect........leave a banana and it develops lots of Black spots
as well.



--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

"....I've been burying banana skins around the roots all year, and my roses
have been great this year, although blackspot has been more troublesome.
......"

What do you expect........leave a banana and it develops lots of Black spots
as well.



--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk