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Jason Pope 07-09-2003 10:22 AM

O/T people sitting on garden wall. advice needed
 


oo wrote:
Hi

I know people on these groups are full of ideas and are very resourceful. I
have been looking for a solution to my problem on the net.

Basically youths won't stop sitting on my garden wall, despite my repeated
requests and threats they continue to sit there. Basically they are noisy
and wil eventually weaken the structure of the wall.

I was wondering if any of you have any practical solutions? (apart from barb
wire, glass on the wall or using a baseball bat on their knees etc lol) I
would appreciate sensible and legal solutions...

Oh yeah and theres no point moaning to their parents or police - thats
useless.

Any advice appreciated as its driving me nuts, having to constantly chase
the brats. lol

Thanks.



Trellis?

Cheers

Jason



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Jane Ransom 07-09-2003 10:32 AM

O/T people sitting on garden wall. advice needed
 
In article , Graham Dixon troubleat
writes
Paint it with a solution of dog shit mashed in water - two or three
applications and they won't sit there again.

Nah - I wouldn't want to foul up an expensive video camera in that way
:))
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
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Jane Ransom 07-09-2003 10:32 AM

O/T people sitting on garden wall. advice needed
 
In article ,
lid writes

This guy got the idea of playing classical music through cheap
loudspeakers mounted on the roof of his building. Whenever the groups
gathered in the area, he would put on some of his favorites--Beethoven,
Bach, Mozart, Tchaikovsky, Bizet, Wagner, ballet, opera, choral
music--even monastic chants BIG GRIN. He would play it just loudly
enough to be heard above the ambient street noise, conversation, and
any boomboxes the undesirables happened to have brought along.

Unfortunately there is a law in this country about noise levels after a
certain time in the evening. Just like the 'paint' solution, he may find
himself falling foul of it if *his* neighbours complain about *him*!!
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
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Jane Ransom 07-09-2003 10:32 AM

O/T people sitting on garden wall. advice needed
 
In article , -
=PrOzAk=- writes
I'm not trying to scare you,
just make you realise what kids are like. It all depends on your area and
how bad these kids are, some teens know the law and don't have any respect
for their parents, these kids are pretty much uncontrolable (don't get them
mad).


What a peculiar state society, in general, has got itself into :((
In the old days a word to their parents would have been enough to end
the whole affair.
In the even older days, they would have been working so hard that they
wouldn't even have had time to sit on walls!!!!!
In the even older, older days, they would have been parents by this time
and trying to bring up their own youngsters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--
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Jane Ransom 07-09-2003 10:32 AM

O/T people sitting on garden wall. advice needed
 
In article , Les Wilson
writes
Walk out there with a pump-action shotgun loaded with blanks,


But don't forget to buy the license first or you will be inside before
you can blink your eyes!!!!!

--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
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Jane Ransom 07-09-2003 10:32 AM

O/T people sitting on garden wall. advice needed
 
In article t, Caliban
writes

Would you please tell your friends that my friends keep guns next to their
windows to address such threats upon their life and property?

Unfortunately, in this country, if *you* protect *your* property *you*,
not the criminal, end up in prison :((
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
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dave @ stejonda 07-09-2003 11:03 AM

O/T people sitting on garden wall. advice needed
 
In message , Jane Ransom
writes
In article , -
=PrOzAk=- writes
I'm not trying to scare you,
just make you realise what kids are like. It all depends on your area and
how bad these kids are, some teens know the law and don't have any respect
for their parents, these kids are pretty much uncontrolable (don't get them
mad).


What a peculiar state society, in general, has got itself into :((
In the old days a word to their parents would have been enough to end
the whole affair.


Around here a word to their parents becomes the start of a whole new
drama. They invariably don't listen and echo the threats of their
offspring.

--
dave @ stejonda

dave @ stejonda 07-09-2003 11:03 AM

O/T people sitting on garden wall. advice needed
 
In message , beanykermit
writes
respect! for the police ROFL!

just be patient, when you age a little you'll understand

--
dave @ stejonda

clara10 07-09-2003 11:13 AM

O/T people sitting on garden wall. advice needed
 
I think this is the best idea by far (see below). No cost and no stress. Ask
them if they had a good day at school and then tell them that you spent the
day train spotting. Also ask them if they would like to see your huge
collection of train photos. They will be off running :)
Clara
xxx


Tosh wrote in message
...
oo spoke thusly:
Hi

I know people on these groups are full of ideas and are very

resourceful. I
have been looking for a solution to my problem on the net.

Basically youths won't stop sitting on my garden wall, despite my

repeated
requests and threats they continue to sit there. Basically they are

noisy
and wil eventually weaken the structure of the wall.

I was wondering if any of you have any practical solutions? (apart from

barb
wire, glass on the wall or using a baseball bat on their knees etc lol)

I
would appreciate sensible and legal solutions...

Oh yeah and theres no point moaning to their parents or police - thats
useless.

Any advice appreciated as its driving me nuts, having to constantly

chase
the brats. lol


Go out and sit with them and talk to them about basket weaving train
spotting or stamp collecting , they'll think you're a nutter and keep
away :)




Sacha 07-09-2003 11:13 AM

O/T people sitting on garden wall. advice needed
 
in article , beanykermit at
wrote on 7/9/03 9:54 am:

respect! for the police ROFL!

But you expect them to respect your wants and needs? I see.
--

Sacha
(remove the 'x' to email me)



Mike Lyle 07-09-2003 11:32 AM

O/T people sitting on garden wall. advice needed
 
"JD" wrote in message . com...
Bill Seurer wrote in message
...
Dave C. wrote:
Sprinklers with a remote control in the house.

Just a timer would do, doesn't need to be remote control. -Dave


Get one of those motion activated ones. Like this one:

http://www.smarthome.com/6120.html



Now that's a keeper!


Absolutely perfect for the householder who wants to get his windows
smashed.

If it really isn't bearable to have your wall sat on -- and if they
were nice kids, I think I'd quite like it; but we must assume these
aren't nice ones -- why not just make the wall a bit taller? Or
replace it with a well-anchored iron fence with harmless but
uncomfortable prongs? That way nobody breaks any laws, the young find
somewhere else to hang out, and you get your peace and quiet back.

Did somebody suggest pyracantha? They look nice, and you'd need an
ironclad bum to sit on it. Maybe plant them through chicken wire, peg
down the wire and bury it to make them harder to uproot.

Whatever you do, I'd say wind down any reaction you make: they'll love
any chance to wind you up. I was quite shocked, but shouldn't have
been surprised, when my 21-year-old son told me how he and a friend
used, as kids, to make a practice of cycling across the grass outside
one house in the village simply because the owner's reaction had been
entertainingly hostile a couple of times when they'd done it by
accident.

So let's consider psychological warfare. I wonder what would happen if
whenever they showed up you went out and joined them sitting on the
wall with your mug of tea, and told them all about when you were their
age in excruciating detail, preferably with much repetition, and maybe
a few asides about the state of your health. It would then be your
turn to enjoy a wind-up, and they'd probably avoid your place ever
after.

Mike.

[ Kolonel Kurtz ] 07-09-2003 11:42 AM

O/T people sitting on garden wall. advice needed
 
It has just came to me in a flash of light - why don't you get some compost
[really smelly stuff] and lay it along the inside of the wall [along the
ground] ... once they come near the wall they will smell the compost and
bugger off elsewhere, this may be smelly for a couple ofdays maybe even
weeks but should defo do the trick

Kolonel Kurtz



tony 07-09-2003 12:04 PM

O/T people sitting on garden wall. advice needed
 

"Rodger Whitlock" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 18:35:17 +0100, oo wrote:

This is the sort of attitude from an adult that has caused this lack of
respect for other peoples property. When will society wake up and tell these
"liberal" parents that their little darlings are brats and they need to keep
them in chech.
In my teen years I would have had a clip round the ear and that would have
been that, the threat of telling my father, or worse still, my Grandmother
would have had me shaking in my boots.
Society needs to take back the initiative here and get our laws changed so
that we don't have the cases we read about like the Martin case et al.
tony
"Weaken the wall"? It would have to be a pretty flimsy wall for a
few young derrieres to "weaken" it.

Let me ask a critical question: are they ~~really~~ weakening the
wall -- or is it that their sitting there simply annoys you? It
seems to me that it's important for you to look in the mirror and
sort out your own motives before trying to do something about
this. If perchance the real issue is simple annoyance ("it's *my*
wall they're sitting on!"), then among the reasonable remedies is
"learning to put up with something you don't like and can't do
much about."


OTOH, if the wall really is that flimsy, then you better have it
taken down and reconstructed before it falls apart and injures
someone.


--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada




Franz Heymann 07-09-2003 12:04 PM

O/T people sitting on garden wall. advice needed
 

"ameijers" wrote in message
...

"Paul Bines" wrote in message
...
Paint your wall top with that black sticky gunk they use to keep

pigeons
off
ledges.

Or, one better, put fake bird muck on the top of the wall - you could
probably make some fake stuff (anyone got any recipes?)
Au Res.,
Paul

Why make life hard? Just spread a kilo of bird seed once a week or so, and
the birds will keep the wall well decorated with the real stuff. No kid
knowingly sits in bird shit.


This is about as near to a perfect solution you will get.
What a wonderful thought! Exchanging a bunch of louts for a flock of birds
and, in the fullness of time, a marvellous collection of lichens.

Franz







Franz Heymann 07-09-2003 12:04 PM

O/T people sitting on garden wall. advice needed
 

"Brandon" wrote in message
...

"oo" wrote in message
...

snip
Basically youths won't stop sitting on my garden wall, despite my

repeated
requests and threats they continue to sit there. Basically they are

noisy
and wil eventually weaken the structure of the wall.

I was wondering if any of you have any practical solutions? (apart from

barb
wire, glass on the wall or using a baseball bat on their knees etc lol)

I
would appreciate sensible and legal solutions...

snip

I recently visited a Victorian School Museum and one of the things they

did
was have brass studs embedded into the hand rail on staircases to

discourage
pupils from sliding down them, why not buy large brass studs, most DIY
stores have them or something similar and either superglue them or drill

and
cement them into the brickwork of the wall.

This is probably your safest bet legally, anything that will harm or

damage
them or their property would make you liable, an innocent bystander may
temporarily sit on your wall to tie their shoelace etc and be faced with
their clothes being damaged or themselves being injured. There are plenty
of cases of burglars successfully suing residents of houses that they have
broken into because of measures that the residents have taken to stop them
being burgled that has resulted in the burglar being injured.


There have been a large number of interesting suggestions, all of which,
with one exception, will unfortunately lead to trouble of one kind or
another.

The ones which come closer than ten miles of the law can be rejected
immediately, unless one is a gambler. The vast majority of the others make
it clear to the louts that something is actively planned against them. The
brats I know will almost certainly plan an act of revenge.

The only plan which will work is one in which the yobbos don' realise that
they are being plotted against. Only one of the suggested plans, namely
that of "ameijers" fulfils this requirement: Feed birds regularly on the
wall at times when the brats are somewhere else, in order to get the wall
covered here and there in bird droppings. It will turn out that the birds
are more persistent than the children.

Franz








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