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"martin" wrote in message ... On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:34:33 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades wrote: (Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or go on holiday with Mr. Fox. We visited Castle Howard a couple of weeks ago and noticed that peacocks were roosting fairly high up in trees. I can't recall seeing a peacock fly. We have never seen grebes fly either. At Lac Joux in the Jura, there was a group of great crested grebes which were never seen in winter. I never saw them fly, but I don't think they hitch-hiked to warmer climes... Franz -- Martin |
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"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message ... The message from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: My curiousity drives me to display my ignorance: What is involved in keeping chickens in a run, and what constitutes a free range chicken? Batteries are small cages which the chickens live in. A sloping wire mesh floor allows eggs to roll out to a ramp outside the cage, thus remaining clean and unpecked. Chickens in a run usually means that there is a wooden chicken house with a wire-netting run attached. If you had meant to say ".....chicken house situated in a compound bounded by a wire-netting fence, I would have understood you. (Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or go on holiday with Mr. Fox. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
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"martin" wrote in message ... On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:34:33 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades wrote: (Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or go on holiday with Mr. Fox. We visited Castle Howard a couple of weeks ago and noticed that peacocks were roosting fairly high up in trees. I can't recall seeing a peacock fly. We have never seen grebes fly either. At Lac Joux in the Jura, there was a group of great crested grebes which were never seen in winter. I never saw them fly, but I don't think they hitch-hiked to warmer climes... Franz -- Martin |
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"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message ... The message from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: My curiousity drives me to display my ignorance: What is involved in keeping chickens in a run, and what constitutes a free range chicken? Batteries are small cages which the chickens live in. A sloping wire mesh floor allows eggs to roll out to a ramp outside the cage, thus remaining clean and unpecked. Chickens in a run usually means that there is a wooden chicken house with a wire-netting run attached. If you had meant to say ".....chicken house situated in a compound bounded by a wire-netting fence, I would have understood you. (Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or go on holiday with Mr. Fox. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
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"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message ... The message from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: My curiousity drives me to display my ignorance: What is involved in keeping chickens in a run, and what constitutes a free range chicken? Batteries are small cages which the chickens live in. A sloping wire mesh floor allows eggs to roll out to a ramp outside the cage, thus remaining clean and unpecked. Chickens in a run usually means that there is a wooden chicken house with a wire-netting run attached. If you had meant to say ".....chicken house situated in a compound bounded by a wire-netting fence, I would have understood you. (Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or go on holiday with Mr. Fox. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
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"martin" wrote in message ... On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:34:33 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades wrote: (Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or go on holiday with Mr. Fox. We visited Castle Howard a couple of weeks ago and noticed that peacocks were roosting fairly high up in trees. I can't recall seeing a peacock fly. We have never seen grebes fly either. At Lac Joux in the Jura, there was a group of great crested grebes which were never seen in winter. I never saw them fly, but I don't think they hitch-hiked to warmer climes... Franz -- Martin |
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"martin" wrote in message ... On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:34:33 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades wrote: (Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or go on holiday with Mr. Fox. We visited Castle Howard a couple of weeks ago and noticed that peacocks were roosting fairly high up in trees. I can't recall seeing a peacock fly. We have never seen grebes fly either. At Lac Joux in the Jura, there was a group of great crested grebes which were never seen in winter. I never saw them fly, but I don't think they hitch-hiked to warmer climes... Franz -- Martin |
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from martin contains these words: On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:34:33 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades wrote: (Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or go on holiday with Mr. Fox. We visited Castle Howard a couple of weeks ago and noticed that peacocks were roosting fairly high up in trees. I can't recall seeing a peacock fly. They can't fly high or long distances. Ours roosted high up in the biggest tree in their territory, a huge beech beside the house, but there's no way they could fly straight up the roost 50 or 60 ft up. They ascend in stages; quite a sight to watch. The dominant cock assembles the flock at the foot of the roost then calls them up, branch by branch. Janet. |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from martin contains these words: On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:34:33 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades wrote: (Proper) free-range hens have a chicken house, but are free to invade their neighbours' gardens, get run over in the road, roost in trees or go on holiday with Mr. Fox. We visited Castle Howard a couple of weeks ago and noticed that peacocks were roosting fairly high up in trees. I can't recall seeing a peacock fly. They can't fly high or long distances. Ours roosted high up in the biggest tree in their territory, a huge beech beside the house, but there's no way they could fly straight up the roost 50 or 60 ft up. They ascend in stages; quite a sight to watch. The dominant cock assembles the flock at the foot of the roost then calls them up, branch by branch. It sounds more likw good jumping rather than bad flying. {:-) Franz |
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from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: If you had meant to say ".....chicken house situated in a compound bounded by a wire-netting fence, I would have understood you. No. That qualifies, but often, the run is attached to one or two sides of the henhouse to allow forays into the house for egg-collecting without having to enter the run first. Viz: ____________ - - - - - - - - - - - - - | | : | | : | / : | | : | __________| : \ - - - - - - - - - - - - - Though usually such an arrangement has external access to the nest boxes. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
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"Jaques d'Altrades" wrote in message ... The message from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: If you had meant to say ".....chicken house situated in a compound bounded by a wire-netting fence, I would have understood you. No. That qualifies, but often, the run is attached to one or two sides of the henhouse to allow forays into the house for egg-collecting without having to enter the run first. Viz: ____________ - - - - - - - - - - - - - | | : | | : | / : | | : | __________| : \ - - - - - - - - - - - - - Though usually such an arrangement has external access to the nest boxes. Ah, now I get it. Franz |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 15:42:46 +0200, martin wrote:
Anybody who has ever kept free range chickens will know that after a while nothing grows in the chicken run except AFAIR nettles. How do people think fruit trees would put up with being inside a chicken run? I'm trying to think of the ways to make the best use of the land we've got and one option is to overlay the fruit tree area and the chickens. -- The Flying Hamster http://www.korenwolf.net/ Of chess it has been said that life is not long enough for it, but that is the fault of life, not chess. -- Irving Chernev |
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from The Flying Hamster contains these words: On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 15:42:46 +0200, martin wrote: Anybody who has ever kept free range chickens will know that after a while nothing grows in the chicken run except AFAIR nettles. How do people think fruit trees would put up with being inside a chicken run? I'm trying to think of the ways to make the best use of the land we've got and one option is to overlay the fruit tree area and the chickens. Chickens do a lot of scratching and dustbathing in bare earth runs. Dustbaths make a hole up to 6" deep and a foot wide. That would uncover and dry out shallow roots of blackcurrants gooseberries and raspberries (anyway hens will jump high enough to get the fruit). Fruit trees like plums damsons and cherries tend to sucker from roots which have been damaged. You might look up deep-litter pens, where the floor of the run is covered with a layer of straw (at least a foot thick iirc, and the bottom of the run needs walls to contain it). Lady Something used to promote that post-war but afaik it went out of fashion, possibly because it encouraged rats around the henhouse. Janet. |
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from The Flying Hamster contains these words: How do people think fruit trees would put up with being inside a chicken run? I'm trying to think of the ways to make the best use of the land we've got and one option is to overlay the fruit tree area and the chickens. My grandmother had an apple tree in one of her chicken runs, and it lasted from the end of the war to around 1958 or so, so I wouldn't worry about it. The apples were always pretty good - if you got to them before they fell. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
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