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Getting rid of ground elder
How do you get rid of ground elder's network of tough roots to be able to plant spring flowering bulbs in a bed? Can I use soemthing like Roundup, and will it get rid of the roots? Must it be applied while the ground elder has all its leaves (I rather zealously zipped them all, so if it does, I will have to wait till they show up again...) How long after a Roundup application can I plant the spring bulbs, and how long more do I have to plant them in time to get flowers next spring? A bit demanding, I am... But an answer would be truly appreciated! Thanks in advance to all the amateurs and experts! Cat(h) |
Getting rid of ground elder
Cathy wrote in message How do you get rid of ground elder's network of tough roots to be able to plant spring flowering bulbs in a bed? Can I use soemthing like Roundup, and will it get rid of the roots? Must it be applied while the ground elder has all its leaves (I rather zealously zipped them all, so if it does, I will have to wait till they show up again...) How long after a Roundup application can I plant the spring bulbs, and how long more do I have to plant them in time to get flowers next spring? Roundup would and does work, but as you suspect it needs green leaves to enable it to do it's job. You would also probably need more than one application to do a thorough job. The herbicide gets down to the roots and kills them too. Once the herbicide is dry on the plants you could plant underneath, few hours say. I've seen Dafs planted at Christmas make flowers the following spring. -- Regards Bob Use a useful Screen Saver... http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ and find intelligent life amongst the stars, there's bugger all down here. |
Getting rid of ground elder
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from Cat contains these words: How do you get rid of ground elder's network of tough roots to be able to plant spring flowering bulbs in a bed? You're too late for weedkiller, but those roots really aren't tough; just fork them out. Pick out any loose ends while they are fresh and pale and easy to spot. Don't compost them :-( Janet. |
Getting rid of ground elder
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from Cat contains these words: How do you get rid of ground elder's network of tough roots to be able to plant spring flowering bulbs in a bed? Can I use soemthing like Roundup, and will it get rid of the roots? Must it be applied while the ground elder has all its leaves (I rather zealously zipped them all, so if it does, I will have to wait till they show up again...) How long after a Roundup application can I plant the spring bulbs, and how long more do I have to plant them in time to get flowers next spring? If you must get rid of them - until the flower they make a fine green vegetable or flavouring for casseroles etc. - dig as much out as you can this winter, then spray with roundup when they are growing vigorously next spring. This means you'll have to wait a year before planting your bulbs. However, if you decide to use the ground elder, the bulbs will be up and flowered before the weed has properly woken up. My lovingly tended ground elder has a lot of spring bulbs amongst it. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
Getting rid of ground elder
In article , Cat
writes How do you get rid of ground elder's network of tough roots to be able to plant spring flowering bulbs in a bed? Can I use soemthing like Roundup, and will it get rid of the roots? Must it be applied while the ground elder has all its leaves (I rather zealously zipped them all, so if it does, I will have to wait till they show up again...) How long after a Roundup application can I plant the spring bulbs, and how long more do I have to plant them in time to get flowers next spring? A bit demanding, I am... But an answer would be truly appreciated! Thanks in advance to all the amateurs and experts! Cat(h) How disappointing ......... I thought the thread was referring to a solution on "getting rid of ground elder"! I don't think it matters what you douse the shoots or roots in, from napalm to undiluted acid. The things will still rear their healthy heads in the spring. -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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In article , Bob Hobden
writes Roundup would and does work, I've sprayed mine with roundup for the last three years but I have to do it every year as there's always some degree of grow back...... -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
Getting rid of ground elder
In article , Janet Baraclough
writes You're too late for weedkiller, but those roots really aren't tough; just fork them out. Ha! They may not be tough to touch or break, but on no account break them, every little piece will regrow.............. They are certainly tough on survival :) -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
Getting rid of ground elder
In article , Janet Tweedy writes: | | How disappointing ......... I thought the thread was referring to a | solution on "getting rid of ground elder"! | | I don't think it matters what you douse the shoots or roots in, from | napalm to undiluted acid. The things will still rear their healthy heads | in the spring. Well, I have done it in one year, using no chemicals, and using that patch to the full :-) I dug it over and removed as much as I could stand, and planted potatoes. I dug up stray bits where I saw them. When I dug up the potatoes, the ground was clear. Of course, the dry summer did help - ground elder dislikes drought even more than potatoes do. If someone can tell me how to get rid of bindweed .... Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Getting rid of ground elder
"Cat" wrote in message ... How do you get rid of ground elder's network of tough roots to be able to plant spring flowering bulbs in a bed? Can I use soemthing like Roundup, and will it get rid of the roots? Glyphosate, of which Roundup is one example, is about the only thing which will successfully eradicate ground elder, root and all. But remember that is is active only when absorbed via the leaves of the plant. Must it be applied while the ground elder has all its leaves (I rather zealously zipped them all, so if it does, I will have to wait till they show up again...) Yes. The more active the growth is, the better the glyphosate works. How long after a Roundup application can I plant the spring bulbs, and how long more do I have to plant them in time to get flowers next spring? As soon as you wish, providing you are within the planting season. The glyphosate is deactivated for all practical purposes within hours after it hits the ground. By the way, don't be in a hurry, as you are almost certainly already too late to do something about it this year. A bit demanding, I am... But an answer would be truly appreciated! Thanks in advance to all the amateurs and experts! Franz |
Getting rid of ground elder
Jaques d'Altrades wrote in
: However, if you decide to use the ground elder, the bulbs will be up and flowered before the weed has properly woken up. My lovingly tended ground elder has a lot of spring bulbs amongst it. Mine too. I think the OP could probably plant early bulbs under the ground elder now then glyphosphate it late next year after they have flowered and died down. Oddly, I've never found GE very invasive: must be lucky with my soil... The weed that bugs me more than anything else is that dratted small Epilobium (is it Epilobium montanum?) Seems like every single damn seed germinates! and the stems pull off just above the roots, so you have to make sure you don't just pull the top off. More of a nuisance to me than ground elder, bindweed and brambles combined (OK, well maybe not the brambles...) Victoria -- gardening on a north-facing hill in South-East Cornwall -- |
Getting rid of ground elder
"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from Cat contains these words: How do you get rid of ground elder's network of tough roots to be able to plant spring flowering bulbs in a bed? You're too late for weedkiller, but those roots really aren't tough; just fork them out. Pick out any loose ends while they are fresh and pale and easy to spot. Don't compost them :-( In my experience, that is useless. Every minuscule rootlet left below ground level regrows with a vengeance. Only glyphosate has really eradicated them in my previous garden. The present one, touch wood, has none, but the giant hogweed is a bit of a problem. Franz |
Getting rid of ground elder
"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message ... In article , Cat writes How do you get rid of ground elder's network of tough roots to be able to plant spring flowering bulbs in a bed? Can I use soemthing like Roundup, and will it get rid of the roots? Must it be applied while the ground elder has all its leaves (I rather zealously zipped them all, so if it does, I will have to wait till they show up again...) How long after a Roundup application can I plant the spring bulbs, and how long more do I have to plant them in time to get flowers next spring? A bit demanding, I am... But an answer would be truly appreciated! Thanks in advance to all the amateurs and experts! Cat(h) How disappointing ......... I thought the thread was referring to a solution on "getting rid of ground elder"! I don't think it matters what you douse the shoots or roots in, from napalm to undiluted acid. The things will still rear their healthy heads in the spring. Glyphosate really did kill off a large colony of ground elder in my previous garden. Franz |
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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ... In article , Janet Tweedy writes: | | How disappointing ......... I thought the thread was referring to a | solution on "getting rid of ground elder"! | | I don't think it matters what you douse the shoots or roots in, from | napalm to undiluted acid. The things will still rear their healthy heads | in the spring. Well, I have done it in one year, using no chemicals, and using that patch to the full :-) I dug it over and removed as much as I could stand, and planted potatoes. I dug up stray bits where I saw them. When I dug up the potatoes, the ground was clear. Of course, the dry summer did help - ground elder dislikes drought even more than potatoes do. If someone can tell me how to get rid of bindweed .... Glyphosate. Franz |
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from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words: If someone can tell me how to get rid of bindweed .... Wait until the shoots are two or three inches high then grasp them as low down as you can, and pull them up with as much root as will come. Repeat as necessary. Mine didn't come back the following year. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
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In article , Franz Heymann
writes "Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from Cat contains these words: How do you get rid of ground elder's network of tough roots to be able to plant spring flowering bulbs in a bed? You're too late for weedkiller, but those roots really aren't tough; just fork them out. Pick out any loose ends while they are fresh and pale and easy to spot. Don't compost them :-( In my experience, that is useless. Every minuscule rootlet left below ground level regrows with a vengeance. Only glyphosate has really eradicated them in my previous garden. The present one, touch wood, has none, but the giant hogweed is a bit of a problem. Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But if giant, lucky you! - it's a splendid plant. Pity it causes skin problems. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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In article , Victoria
Clare writes The weed that bugs me more than anything else is that dratted small Epilobium (is it Epilobium montanum?) Seems like every single damn seed germinates! and the stems pull off just above the roots, so you have to make sure you don't just pull the top off. Yes, I have troubles with that one too. I've eradicated rose-bay willowherb just by pulling it up, but never managed to eliminate the little one. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: "Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from Cat contains these words: How do you get rid of ground elder's network of tough roots to be able to plant spring flowering bulbs in a bed? You're too late for weedkiller, but those roots really aren't tough; just fork them out. Pick out any loose ends while they are fresh and pale and easy to spot. Don't compost them :-( In my experience, that is useless. Every minuscule rootlet left below ground level regrows with a vengeance. Only glyphosate has really eradicated them in my previous garden. My advice was in response to the OP's first question, the one which you failed to address in your four posts to the thread. Glyphosate is not an option to remove the roots *now*, since he has already removed the GE leaves; digging and careful removal of root scraps is the only other option available. Janet |
Getting rid of ground elder
In article , Janet Baraclough
writes My advice was in response to the OP's first question, the one which you failed to address in your four posts to the thread. Glyphosate is not an option to remove the roots *now*, since he has already removed the GE leaves; digging and careful removal of root scraps is the only other option available. Janet What about covering the ground with black Thingy and putting half grown bulbs through the plastic later on Janet? If you mulched the ground thickly as well you might get away with stopping the ground elder coming through if a lot has been taken away. I did try it on one bed of my vegetable area but sad to say the mulch is now four foot tall and contains two carpet layers, two layers of very thick newspaper and lots of grass clipping etc and STILL the ground elder comes through................. Sigh .............. I even though about putting that chemical on the ground that stops ALL germination for six months, as the area is useless for growing on in, case I break any more roots of the weed. So I have a 14 foot square bed that I haven't grown anything in save blackberries for about ten years ................ Janet -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
Getting rid of ground elder
In article , Victoria
Clare writes Oddly, I've never found GE very invasive: must be lucky with my soil... Sorry Janet B. I have to reply to this bit of the thread though I've made several replies already :) Some two years ago there was a big thing being made about a plant that if grown in a plot of land inhibited the ground elder from growing though I can't for the life of me remember its name. I know T & M or some other firm were adverting the seeds or plants and they ran out of supply. Did anyone else try it or remember the details? -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
Getting rid of ground elder
In message , Cat
writes How do you get rid of ground elder's network of tough roots to be able to plant spring flowering bulbs in a bed? At this time of year you don't. Their roots aren't very tough either. The main problem is they are brittle and every bit that breaks off will be a new plant. Can I use soemthing like Roundup, and will it get rid of the roots? Must it be applied while the ground elder has all its leaves (I rather zealously zipped them all, so if it does, I will have to wait till they show up again...) Roundup will weaken it. But it is useless at this time of year. Plants have stopped growing so using weedkiller will be a waste of time and money. The fastest way to eradicate ground elder is to hit it with glyphosate when the first tender leaves appear in spring wait a couple of weeks and then dig out the weakened plants. Also to hit it again and again with any other broadleaf weedkiller whenever you happen to be using it. You could do it all chemically or Organic(TM) style by sieving the soil. But a combined approach is more efficient. Small bits of root affected by glyphosate that get missed do not easily regrow. How long after a Roundup application can I plant the spring bulbs, and how long more do I have to plant them in time to get flowers next spring? Provided they haven't sprouted you can plant them immediately. Roundup has to hit the plant to take effect. A bit demanding, I am... But an answer would be truly appreciated! You will have to dig the stuff out to be in time for this years bulb planting. Regards, -- Martin Brown |
Getting rid of ground elder
In article , Kay Easton
writes Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But if giant, lucky you! - Eh??????? It's one of these super weeds like JKN and is notifiable!!! -- Jane Ransom in Lancaster. I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg but if you need to email me for any other reason, put ransoms at jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see |
Getting rid of ground elder
"Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Franz Heymann writes "Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from Cat contains these words: How do you get rid of ground elder's network of tough roots to be able to plant spring flowering bulbs in a bed? You're too late for weedkiller, but those roots really aren't tough; just fork them out. Pick out any loose ends while they are fresh and pale and easy to spot. Don't compost them :-( In my experience, that is useless. Every minuscule rootlet left below ground level regrows with a vengeance. Only glyphosate has really eradicated them in my previous garden. The present one, touch wood, has none, but the giant hogweed is a bit of a problem. Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But if giant, lucky you! - it's a splendid plant. Pity it causes skin problems. Mine is approximately 7 ft if left undisturbed. And yes, the reason why we have to eradicate it is because neither my wife nor I can get near it without skin problems. (Plus the fact that it chose to make its home bang in the middle of a little group of potentillas). Franz |
Getting rid of ground elder
"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: "Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from Cat contains these words: How do you get rid of ground elder's network of tough roots to be able to plant spring flowering bulbs in a bed? You're too late for weedkiller, but those roots really aren't tough; just fork them out. Pick out any loose ends while they are fresh and pale and easy to spot. Don't compost them :-( In my experience, that is useless. Every minuscule rootlet left below ground level regrows with a vengeance. Only glyphosate has really eradicated them in my previous garden. My advice was in response to the OP's first question, the one which you failed to address in your four posts to the thread. Glyphosate is not an option to remove the roots *now*, since he has already removed the GE leaves; digging and careful removal of root scraps is the only other option available. I thought that it went without saying that he is simply *not* going to successfully remove the roots *now*. I thought I pointed out that his best hope of eradicating the ground elder would be to wait until it is growing well, and then kill it stone dead with glyphosate. Franz |
Getting rid of ground elder
"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message ... In article , Janet Baraclough writes [snip] What about covering the ground with black Thingy and putting half grown bulbs through the plastic later on Janet? Twelve months of covering ground elder with black polythene certainly does not eradicate them. I tried it and failed. If you mulched the ground thickly as well you might get away with stopping the ground elder coming through if a lot has been taken away. I did try it on one bed of my vegetable area but sad to say the mulch is now four foot tall and contains two carpet layers, two layers of very thick newspaper and lots of grass clipping etc and STILL the ground elder comes through................. Sigh .............. Quite. I even though about putting that chemical on the ground that stops ALL germination for six months, as the area is useless for growing on in, case I break any more roots of the weed. So I have a 14 foot square bed that I haven't grown anything in save blackberries for about ten years Hence my oft repeated mantra to get on with the glyphosate. It works. Nothing, nothing else will eradicate ground elder. Franz |
Getting rid of ground elder
"Victoria Clare" wrote in message .209... Jaques d'Altrades wrote in : However, if you decide to use the ground elder, the bulbs will be up and flowered before the weed has properly woken up. My lovingly tended ground elder has a lot of spring bulbs amongst it. Mine too. I think the OP could probably plant early bulbs under the ground elder now then glyphosphate it late next year after they have flowered and died down. Oddly, I've never found GE very invasive: must be lucky with my soil... The weed that bugs me more than anything else is that dratted small Epilobium (is it Epilobium montanum?) Seems like every single damn seed germinates! and the stems pull off just above the roots, so you have to make sure you don't just pull the top off. More of a nuisance to me than ground elder, bindweed and brambles combined (OK, well maybe not the brambles...) Yes. That one is a real little *******, if you will excuse my language. It gets into all the most impossible crooks and nannies and is the most prolific seeder in my garden and grows with the speed of light. It is helped along by the fact that one of my neighbours has a paddock which he seems to use specifically for cultivating E montanum Franz |
Getting rid of ground elder
"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message ... In article , Victoria Clare writes Oddly, I've never found GE very invasive: must be lucky with my soil... Sorry Janet B. I have to reply to this bit of the thread though I've made several replies already :) Some two years ago there was a big thing being made about a plant that if grown in a plot of land inhibited the ground elder from growing though I can't for the life of me remember its name. I know T & M or some other firm were adverting the seeds or plants and they ran out of supply. Did anyone else try it or remember the details? If it was successful, it would not have disappeared from gardening circles, considering the extent to which GE is still a nuisance. Franz |
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Jane Ransom wrote:
In article , Kay Easton writes Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But if giant, lucky you! - Eh??????? It's one of these super weeds like JKN and is notifiable!!! That's what I thought, but whom should we notify, please? -- Nick Wagg |
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:22:24 +0100, Nick Wagg
wrote: Jane Ransom wrote: In article , Kay Easton writes Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But if giant, lucky you! - Eh??????? It's one of these super weeds like JKN and is notifiable!!! That's what I thought, but whom should we notify, please? The HS&E. -- Martin |
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In article , martin
writes On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:22:24 +0100, Nick Wagg wrote: Jane Ransom wrote: In article , Kay Easton writes Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But if giant, lucky you! - Eh??????? It's one of these super weeds like JKN and is notifiable!!! That's what I thought, but whom should we notify, please? The HS&E. Where did you get that bit of information from, please? I can't find anything that says you have to notify anyone of giant hogweed on your own private land. I can see there might be different regulations if it is on land which others have access to. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
Getting rid of ground elder
In article , Nick Wagg
writes Jane Ransom wrote: In article , Kay Easton writes Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But if giant, lucky you! - Eh??????? It's one of these super weeds like JKN and is notifiable!!! That's what I thought, but whom should we notify, please? Nobody, unless you really want to. There's no compunction on you to notify - you merely have to make sure you don't allow it to spread outside your land. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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In article , Franz Heymann
writes "Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Franz Heymann writes In my experience, that is useless. Every minuscule rootlet left below ground level regrows with a vengeance. Only glyphosate has really eradicated them in my previous garden. The present one, touch wood, has none, but the giant hogweed is a bit of a problem. Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But if giant, lucky you! - it's a splendid plant. Pity it causes skin problems. Mine is approximately 7 ft if left undisturbed. And yes, the reason why we have to eradicate it is because neither my wife nor I can get near it without skin problems. (Plus the fact that it chose to make its home bang in the middle of a little group of potentillas). DEFRA recommend glyphosate - see http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk...67839/?lang=_e -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
Getting rid of ground elder
In article , Jane Ransom
writes In article , Kay Easton writes Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But if giant, lucky you! - Eh??????? It's one of these super weeds like JKN and is notifiable!!! It is an invasive alien, and it is an offence to plant it or otherwise cause it to grow in the wild. It is not notifiable - you don't have to tell anyone if you have it. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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"Kay Easton" wrote in message ... In article , Franz Heymann writes "Kay Easton" wrote in message ... [snip] Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But if giant, lucky you! - it's a splendid plant. Pity it causes skin problems. Mine is approximately 7 ft if left undisturbed. And yes, the reason why we have to eradicate it is because neither my wife nor I can get near it without skin problems. (Plus the fact that it chose to make its home bang in the middle of a little group of potentillas). DEFRA recommend glyphosate I did. I thought I had killed it, but it came up again. I fed it some more glyphosate. There is no sign yet of a repeat performance, but I guess I have to wait until the spring to see who won. [snip] Franz |
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:01:15 +0100, Kay Easton
wrote: In article , martin writes On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 10:22:24 +0100, Nick Wagg wrote: Jane Ransom wrote: In article , Kay Easton writes Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But if giant, lucky you! - Eh??????? It's one of these super weeds like JKN and is notifiable!!! That's what I thought, but whom should we notify, please? The HS&E. Where did you get that bit of information from, please? Google I didn't save the URL and I can't find it again. Last time it was discussed in http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/showth...?threadid=8917 the local council appeared to be the place. The scope of the ban is in http://www.parliament.the-stationery...rittens-1.html "Giant Hogweed Mrs. Margaret Ewing : To ask the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether he will take steps to ban the import and sale of seeds of Heracleum Mantegazzianum. Mr. Sainsbury [holding answer 22 October 1990] : No. There are currently no plans to ban the import or sale of seeds of Heracleum Mantegazzianum. However, under section 14(2) of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981, it is an offence for any person to plant or to otherwise cause to grow in the wild any plant which is included in part 2 of schedule 9 to the Act. Giant hogweed (Heracleum Mantegazzianum) is listed in the schedule." Details of section 14(2) of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 at http://www.defra.gov.uk/paw/publications/law/5_1_7.htm and for list of banned flora and fauna http://www.defra.gov.uk/paw/publicat...w/appenda9.htm it could be quite expensive having a garden or field full of giant hogweed http://www.defra.gov.uk/paw/publications/law/1_6.htm -- Martin |
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:01:20 +0100, Kay Easton
wrote: In article , Nick Wagg writes Jane Ransom wrote: In article , Kay Easton writes Have you *really* got giant hogweed? The ordinary one grows 5-6 ft. But if giant, lucky you! - Eh??????? It's one of these super weeds like JKN and is notifiable!!! That's what I thought, but whom should we notify, please? Nobody, unless you really want to. There's no compunction on you to notify - you merely have to make sure you don't allow it to spread outside your land. or have it growing on your land! -- Martin |
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from Janet Tweedy contains these words: I even though about putting that chemical on the ground that stops ALL germination for six months, as the area is useless for growing on in, case I break any more roots of the weed. So I have a 14 foot square bed that I haven't grown anything in save blackberries for about ten years ............... Simozine or something of similar spelling. My advice would be not to use it. I had a smallholding and because I couldn't use all my 17½ acres at first, I let some to a neighbouring dairy farmer, who put it down to maize, treating the ground with Simozine (Sp?) to kill off the competition - maize being for some reason, unaffected by it. Two years after the last maize crop, I ploughed and harrowed the six acre field and sowed spring barley, very little of which came up. I had to replough and re-harrow twice before I could do anything at all, and the ley of mixed grasses and clover I put down eventually didn't do well at all for a couple of years. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
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from "Franz Heymann" contains these words: [(Alleged) giant hogweed] Mine is approximately 7 ft if left undisturbed. And yes, the reason why we have to eradicate it is because neither my wife nor I can get near it without skin problems. (Plus the fact that it chose to make its home bang in the middle of a little group of potentillas). It doesn't sound like giant hogweed to me then unless it's on really very poor ground, the sod will grow to ten or twelve feet without even trying. -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
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from Sacha contains these words: Few people can get near it without skin problems. A friend of ours became very ill after trying to get his out and suffered for quite some time. Be, very, very careful. Yes, I wouldn't advocate geting it out anywhere near one.... -- Rusty Hinge horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm |
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