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| Anyway I have never seen a Buddleia bloom in anything but orange or a
| shade or purple. Thought this may be of slightly more interest to
| some than an argument about Cannabis.

Whatever turns you on ....

Nick

What is that supposed to mean ? Your remark comes across as an
attempt to be-little my question. I do not know if you meant it that
way, or if I am reading at all wrong. Maybe your intention was to
make a joke on the greater satisfaction to be achieved from growing
Cannabis than growing Buddleia.

Hardly any sort of criticism or attack.

Which ever it was I did not get it.

Evidently.

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Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

Tim Challenger24/11/03 10:34
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On 24 Nov 2003 02:26:35 -0800, Philip wrote:

..... Now to the interesting part - the flowers
were primrose yellow. This Buddleia carries the connical shaped
flower heads and not the ball/pom-pom type.

Did you take a cuting ??? ;-)

Yellow is new to me - you can get white flowering ones from mail order
places in Austria and Germany.

Buddleia globosa, Tim. There are several varieties of Buddleia but B.
davidii and B. globosa are possibly the best known. The white ones are
lovely but look a bit tatty when going over, I think.
--

Sacha
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:27:04 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

Tim Challenger24/11/03 10:34
am"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at"5b452cab6 d7e3c22d06ecbfa1bfd29f0@new
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On 24 Nov 2003 02:26:35 -0800, Philip wrote:

..... Now to the interesting part - the flowers
were primrose yellow. This Buddleia carries the connical shaped
flower heads and not the ball/pom-pom type.

Did you take a cuting ??? ;-)

Yellow is new to me - you can get white flowering ones from mail order
places in Austria and Germany.

Buddleia globosa, Tim. There are several varieties of Buddleia but B.
davidii and B. globosa are possibly the best known. The white ones are
lovely but look a bit tatty when going over, I think.
--

They can do - they're such prolific bloomers that the fading brown
blooms get thrown into sharp contrast with the pure white of the fresh
flowers. If you want them to look pristine it's practically a full
time job dead heading in the summer.
I'm inclined to think it's worth it though - the white ( Alba )
variety really makes for a fantastic backdrop for the visiting
butterflies ( especially this year`s visiting Hummingbird Hawk Moth ).

There's a yellow variety just around the corner from me, I could have
sworn it wasn't a Globosa, the blooms looked too closely clustered
together - but on closer inspection it turned out to be just that.
It's still by far the lightest yellow and most densely flowered
Globosa I've seen.

Has anyone seen a red one?
I had a mauve variety that was closer to red than it was to blue, but
it didn't fare very well. I dug up the roots and shifted it to a
hopefully more suitable spot, only time will tell if it'll come back.

Regards,



--
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:27:39 +0000, Stephen Howard wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:27:04 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

Tim Challenger24/11/03 10:34
am"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at"5b452cab 6d7e3c22d06ecbfa1bfd29f0@new
s.teranews.com

On 24 Nov 2003 02:26:35 -0800, Philip wrote:

..... Now to the interesting part - the flowers
were primrose yellow. This Buddleia carries the connical shaped
flower heads and not the ball/pom-pom type.

Did you take a cuting ??? ;-)

Yellow is new to me - you can get white flowering ones from mail order
places in Austria and Germany.

Buddleia globosa, Tim. There are several varieties of Buddleia but B.
davidii and B. globosa are possibly the best known. The white ones are
lovely but look a bit tatty when going over, I think.

Thanks. I have only seen them in catalogues. I don't remmeber seeing a
living one.


I'm inclined to think it's worth it though - the white ( Alba )
variety really makes for a fantastic backdrop for the visiting
butterflies ( especially this year`s visiting Hummingbird Hawk Moth ).

Might be worth it. I find deadheading the normal one I have quite
theraputic.


Has anyone seen a red one?

Not me. I'll keep my eyes peeled next summer.

--
Tim.

If the human brain were simple enough that we could understand it, we would
be so simple that we couldn't.

"Tim Challenger" "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:27:39 +0000, Stephen Howard wrote:
Has anyone seen a red one?

Not me. I'll keep my eyes peeled next summer.

Yes, we have two different varieties. We have Royal Red, which is a deep
red, and a red Harlequin which has variegated leaves. The Harlequin is
everyone's favourite.
We've been collecting Buddleja for some time but have yet to find a true
yellow.
We have blues from pale sky through to Lavender and on to the various
purples and near black. We also have numerous whites - some of our
favourites.

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:21:08 -0000, "Sue da Nimm"
. wrote:


"Tim Challenger" "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote in message
ws.com...
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:27:39 +0000, Stephen Howard wrote:
Has anyone seen a red one?

Not me. I'll keep my eyes peeled next summer.

Yes, we have two different varieties. We have Royal Red, which is a deep
red, and a red Harlequin which has variegated leaves. The Harlequin is
everyone's favourite.

Ooh, the variegated one sounds intriguing. How hardy is it?


We've been collecting Buddleja for some time but have yet to find a true
yellow.
We have blues from pale sky through to Lavender and on to the various
purples and near black. We also have numerous whites - some of our
favourites.

I used to have a near black one ( called Black Knight ), smelt
absolutely gorgeous, but wasn't that hardy.
A late October gale pulled it clean out of the ground, and it never
really recovered - and even the resultant cuttings didn't take.

Regards,



--
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

The message
from Stephen Howard contains these words:

Has anyone seen a red one?

I haven't.

I had a mauve variety that was closer to red than it was to blue, but
it didn't fare very well. I dug up the roots and shifted it to a
hopefully more suitable spot, only time will tell if it'll come back.

Thet don't like being moved. You would have been better to have taken
cuttings, and it's probably not too late to do so.

--
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Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:25:57 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from Stephen Howard contains these words:

Has anyone seen a red one?

I haven't.

I had a mauve variety that was closer to red than it was to blue, but
it didn't fare very well. I dug up the roots and shifted it to a
hopefully more suitable spot, only time will tell if it'll come back.

Thet don't like being moved. You would have been better to have taken
cuttings, and it's probably not too late to do so.

I've found they vary in their response to being moved.
The 'wild' light purple and the white varieties don't seem to mind a
jot, the darker varieties seem to complain.

I took these cuttings in late October ( of last year ) - though as a
rule I like to take the cuttings nearer the end of August when I'm
starting to trim the bushes back.
I've found that semi-green wood tends to take best, and hormone
rooting powder is quite unnecessary.

Perhaps October would be fine for the more vigorous varieties...

Regards,



--
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

"Sacha" wrote in message
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Tim Challenger24/11/03 10:34

am"timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at"5b452cab6d 7e3c22d06ecbfa1bfd29f0@new
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On 24 Nov 2003 02:26:35 -0800, Philip wrote:

Snip
The white ones are
lovely but look a bit tatty when going over, I think.
--

Sacha
(remove the 'x' to email me)

There is an old gardening friend down here who has hidden in her garden the
product of years of growing from seed, one of the things I spotted was a
white buddleja (like white bouquet) but the gone over flowers go green not
brown (I am still working on her for cuttings!) She also breeds roses,
hollies, & violets. trying to rescue things from the overgrown jungle that
her garden has become is an annual challenge!

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

"Stephen Howard" wrote in message
...
..

Ooh, the variegated one sounds intriguing. How hardy is it?

Once it's established it does fine. We have several in a mixed buddleja
hedge. Cuttings don't strike as reliably as others - I normally expect 100%
from buddleja, but with Harlequin it's only around 5%.

(Nick Maclaren) wrote in message ...
In article ,
Philip wrote:
| Anyway I have never seen a Buddleia bloom in anything but orange or a
| shade or purple. Thought this may be of slightly more interest to
| some than an argument about Cannabis.

Whatever turns you on ....

What is that supposed to mean ? Your remark comes across as an
attempt to be-little my question. I do not know if you meant it that
way, or if I am reading at all wrong. Maybe your intention was to
make a joke on the greater satisfaction to be achieved from growing
Cannabis than growing Buddleia.

It is a piece of 1960s idiom. Yes, it was a joke. Don't worry
about it. The serious part of my response was earlier in the post
(and which you snipped).


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


Nick

Appologies. My previous post should have started with "Thankyou for
the information on the Buddleia."

Phil

"Sue da Nimm" . wrote in message ...
"Stephen Howard" wrote in message
...
.

Ooh, the variegated one sounds intriguing. How hardy is it?

Once it's established it does fine. We have several in a mixed buddleja
hedge. Cuttings don't strike as reliably as others - I normally expect 100%
from buddleja, but with Harlequin it's only around 5%.

I am interested in the concept of a Buddleia hedge. I cannot imagine
that Buddleia lends itself to a formal shaped hedge, so I imagine it
must be of the informal type. Is your hedge tall ie 6ft plus or do
you keep it down by cutting away anything that is getting too woody?

Do you use the hedge as a barrier to people or animals? If so how
closely are the Buddleia shrubs planted?

Phil

"Philip" wrote in message
m...
I am interested in the concept of a Buddleia hedge. I cannot imagine
that Buddleia lends itself to a formal shaped hedge, so I imagine it
must be of the informal type. Is your hedge tall ie 6ft plus or do
you keep it down by cutting away anything that is getting too woody?

The hedge is about 30ft long and curved to contain a wildlife garden.
The buddlejaa are planted in two ways:
A number of "tri-colors" were created by planting royal red, blue and white
cuttings three to a pot and training them to grow through each other. These
were then planted out, interspersed with Globus, Black Knight, Alba, Wild
Purple and Harlequin, all planted at just 2ft intervals. They are all
underplanted with Hypericum.
They are trimmed right down to 3ft high every year and ruthlessly
dead-headed throughout the (very long) season. The main stems are very stout
and woody, but by the end of the season the hedge has put on lush new growth
to about 8ft high, with a similar spread. Plenty of horse-muck goes down
evey autumn.

Do you use the hedge as a barrier to people or animals?

Yes, it keeps my four dogs out of the wildlife garden. It took a while for
the trunks to "beef up" enough to keep out the Newfoundland, but it's all
reasonably dense now.

If so how closely are the Buddleia shrubs planted?

Just 2ft - I suspect we've broken every rule in the book, but we reasoned
that if they can grow out of walls and even chimney-stacks then they
wouldn't mind a bit of competition! My neighbours started a similar hedge
last year with cuttings from ours. It already looks quite impressive but I
had to bully them into pruning it hard.

In article ,
(Philip) wrote:

I am interested in the concept of a Buddleia hedge. I cannot imagine
that Buddleia lends itself to a formal shaped hedge

There used to be one near here. Not very formal. It was about 8' high by
3' thick but sometimes got bigger.

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com

"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
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Has anyone seen a red one?

I haven't.

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B. colvilei 'Kewensis' is red, but needs warmth to flower well
--
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http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)