Is it just me or has there been a trend for postings to get very
snappy or short tempered in the last few weeks?

There seem to be many more posters losing it with each other lately. I
can only put it down to the urglers version of 'cabin fever' - too
many gardners stuck inside and wanting, nay, needing to get outside
and grow stuff and not being able to and so having (in some cases)long
heated discussions about top and bottom posting, data protection,
cross posting etc etc

Roll on spring!!

Roll on spring!!

Which will be followed by an Autumn and another Winter with more 'cabin
fever'.

Why can't people accept that the indoor, cold, wet period comes every year?

Mike
who accepts whatever weather comes as he knows he has no control over it

In article , Mark
Fawcett writes
Is it just me or has there been a trend for postings to get very
snappy or short tempered in the last few weeks?

Don't worry . . . it happens every year . . . we are just starting a bit
early this year
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
I won't respond to private emails that are on topic for urg
but if you need to email me for any other reason, put ransoms
at jandg dot demon dot co dot uk where you see

(Mark Fawcett) wrote:


There seem to be many more posters losing it with each other lately. I
can only put it down to the urglers version of 'cabin fever

Not me; I'm my normal cheerful sunny self! And if you don't like it, maybe
we should step outside and "discuss" it, eh?

I cope, as best I can, by working on indoor plants and planning for spring.
And I rigged up a couple of high-efficiency fluorescent fixtures over some
plants in a south window to give them more than they customary gray.... on
a timer for 15-hour days. I'm expecting a knock on the door any day now.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1200' elevation. NY WO G

Jane Ransom24/12/03 12:03

In article , Mark
Fawcett writes
Is it just me or has there been a trend for postings to get very
snappy or short tempered in the last few weeks?

Don't worry . . . it happens every year . . . we are just starting a bit
early this year

And the shortest day has passed so it's uphill all the way. ;-)
--

Sacha
(remove the 'x' to email me)

You're obviously not getting enough "festive cheer" for that Seasonally
Affected Disorder! Drink is the answer. (sorry - what was the question? ;-)

Great idea to have Christmas in the middle of winter, wasn't it, just when
everyone needs a "lift". Days getting longer now.

When I'm a bit cold and miserable I just look at my "indoor garden" for a
bit, which sports a horrifically energy-guzzling daylight lamp. My indoor
plants are happier than I am at this time of year!

Andrew


"Mark Fawcett" wrote in message
om...
Is it just me or has there been a trend for postings to get very
snappy or short tempered in the last few weeks?

There seem to be many more posters losing it with each other lately. I
can only put it down to the urglers version of 'cabin fever' - too
many gardners stuck inside and wanting, nay, needing to get outside
and grow stuff and not being able to and so having (in some cases)long
heated discussions about top and bottom posting, data protection,
cross posting etc etc

Roll on spring!!

"Andy Hunt" wrote in message
news
You're obviously not getting enough "festive cheer" for that Seasonally
Affected Disorder! Drink is the answer. (sorry - what was the question?
;-)

Great idea to have Christmas in the middle of winter, wasn't it, just when
everyone needs a "lift". Days getting longer now.

When I'm a bit cold and miserable I just look at my "indoor garden" for a
bit, which sports a horrifically energy-guzzling daylight lamp. My indoor
plants are happier than I am at this time of year!

Andrew, what lamp?
How much power?
How high above the bench
What area for the bench?

[snip]

Franz

When I'm a bit cold and miserable I just look at my "indoor garden" for
a
bit, which sports a horrifically energy-guzzling daylight lamp. My
indoor
plants are happier than I am at this time of year!

Andrew, what lamp?
How much power?
How high above the bench
What area for the bench?

I actually have 2 x 250W "Eco-lite" daylight lamps, one fitted with a metal
halide bulb, one fitted with a sodium bulb. The two bulbs between them give
full-spectrum daylight, from the springtime-like metal halide (strong in
blue and violet end of spectrum, good for plant growth) to the autumn-like
sodium (strong in yellow and red end of spectrum, good for stimulating
fruiting).

The lights are hung above a shelf which is about 4' long and about a foot
wide. They hang about 3' above the shelf, which is necessary to avoid
scorching the plants. The shelf has a bit of plywood about 4" high nailed to
the front, and I've lined the resulting trough with a black plastic sheet to
make a water-trough, which is handy because it means you can leave the
plants for a few days without them drying out. The heat from the lamps tends
to encourage transpiration.

I've grown all sorts of things under them including herbs of all
descriptions and chillis, all year round, although they aren't normally
required in the summer, except for "specialist" herbs - South-facing window
sills will do just fine in the summer! The lamps are great for starting off
stuff for outside in the spring - I don't have a greenhouse. I haven't found
anything yet that didn't love it under these lamps - they go like billy-o.

I sometimes spend hours fiddling about with the plants on my shelf in the
winter - I can actually feel the strong heat and light cheering me up! The
plants love it - they don't even realise it's winter-time. I have the lights
on about 12 hours a day, so the plants get full-spectrum sunlight at the
equivalent of a spring/autumn equinox, which doubles as a growing/fruiting
season with the 2 different kinds of bulbs.

I must admit, my shelf is a huge luxury. I'm very keen on energy efficiency
etc (house completely kitted out with CFLs etc) but the daylight lamps are a
really special thing. I switch them off in the summer if I'm not using them,
they get very hot.

Andrew

When I'm a bit cold and miserable I just look at my "indoor garden" for
a
bit, which sports a horrifically energy-guzzling daylight lamp. My
indoor
plants are happier than I am at this time of year!

Andrew, what lamp?
How much power?
How high above the bench
What area for the bench?

I actually have 2 x 250W "Eco-lite" daylight lamps, one fitted with a metal
halide bulb, one fitted with a sodium bulb. The two bulbs between them give
full-spectrum daylight, from the springtime-like metal halide (strong in
blue and violet end of spectrum, good for plant growth) to the autumn-like
sodium (strong in yellow and red end of spectrum, good for stimulating
fruiting).

The lights are hung above a shelf which is about 4' long and about a foot
wide. They hang about 3' above the shelf, which is necessary to avoid
scorching the plants. The shelf has a bit of plywood about 4" high nailed to
the front, and I've lined the resulting trough with a black plastic sheet to
make a water-trough, which is handy because it means you can leave the
plants for a few days without them drying out. The heat from the lamps tends
to encourage transpiration.

I've grown all sorts of things under them including herbs of all
descriptions and chillis, all year round, although they aren't normally
required in the summer, except for "specialist" herbs - South-facing window
sills will do just fine in the summer! The lamps are great for starting off
stuff for outside in the spring - I don't have a greenhouse. I haven't found
anything yet that didn't love it under these lamps - they go like billy-o.

I sometimes spend hours fiddling about with the plants on my shelf in the
winter - I can actually feel the strong heat and light cheering me up! The
plants love it - they don't even realise it's winter-time. I have the lights
on about 12 hours a day, so the plants get full-spectrum sunlight at the
equivalent of a spring/autumn equinox, which doubles as a growing/fruiting
season with the 2 different kinds of bulbs.

I must admit, my shelf is a huge luxury. I'm very keen on energy efficiency
etc (house completely kitted out with CFLs etc) but the daylight lamps are a
really special thing. I switch them off in the summer if I'm not using them,
they get very hot.

Andrew

When I'm a bit cold and miserable I just look at my "indoor garden" for
a
bit, which sports a horrifically energy-guzzling daylight lamp. My
indoor
plants are happier than I am at this time of year!

Andrew, what lamp?
How much power?
How high above the bench
What area for the bench?

I actually have 2 x 250W "Eco-lite" daylight lamps, one fitted with a metal
halide bulb, one fitted with a sodium bulb. The two bulbs between them give
full-spectrum daylight, from the springtime-like metal halide (strong in
blue and violet end of spectrum, good for plant growth) to the autumn-like
sodium (strong in yellow and red end of spectrum, good for stimulating
fruiting).

The lights are hung above a shelf which is about 4' long and about a foot
wide. They hang about 3' above the shelf, which is necessary to avoid
scorching the plants. The shelf has a bit of plywood about 4" high nailed to
the front, and I've lined the resulting trough with a black plastic sheet to
make a water-trough, which is handy because it means you can leave the
plants for a few days without them drying out. The heat from the lamps tends
to encourage transpiration.

I've grown all sorts of things under them including herbs of all
descriptions and chillis, all year round, although they aren't normally
required in the summer, except for "specialist" herbs - South-facing window
sills will do just fine in the summer! The lamps are great for starting off
stuff for outside in the spring - I don't have a greenhouse. I haven't found
anything yet that didn't love it under these lamps - they go like billy-o.

I sometimes spend hours fiddling about with the plants on my shelf in the
winter - I can actually feel the strong heat and light cheering me up! The
plants love it - they don't even realise it's winter-time. I have the lights
on about 12 hours a day, so the plants get full-spectrum sunlight at the
equivalent of a spring/autumn equinox, which doubles as a growing/fruiting
season with the 2 different kinds of bulbs.

I must admit, my shelf is a huge luxury. I'm very keen on energy efficiency
etc (house completely kitted out with CFLs etc) but the daylight lamps are a
really special thing. I switch them off in the summer if I'm not using them,
they get very hot.

Andrew

When I'm a bit cold and miserable I just look at my "indoor garden" for
a
bit, which sports a horrifically energy-guzzling daylight lamp. My
indoor
plants are happier than I am at this time of year!

Andrew, what lamp?
How much power?
How high above the bench
What area for the bench?

I actually have 2 x 250W "Eco-lite" daylight lamps, one fitted with a metal
halide bulb, one fitted with a sodium bulb. The two bulbs between them give
full-spectrum daylight, from the springtime-like metal halide (strong in
blue and violet end of spectrum, good for plant growth) to the autumn-like
sodium (strong in yellow and red end of spectrum, good for stimulating
fruiting).

The lights are hung above a shelf which is about 4' long and about a foot
wide. They hang about 3' above the shelf, which is necessary to avoid
scorching the plants. The shelf has a bit of plywood about 4" high nailed to
the front, and I've lined the resulting trough with a black plastic sheet to
make a water-trough, which is handy because it means you can leave the
plants for a few days without them drying out. The heat from the lamps tends
to encourage transpiration.

I've grown all sorts of things under them including herbs of all
descriptions and chillis, all year round, although they aren't normally
required in the summer, except for "specialist" herbs - South-facing window
sills will do just fine in the summer! The lamps are great for starting off
stuff for outside in the spring - I don't have a greenhouse. I haven't found
anything yet that didn't love it under these lamps - they go like billy-o.

I sometimes spend hours fiddling about with the plants on my shelf in the
winter - I can actually feel the strong heat and light cheering me up! The
plants love it - they don't even realise it's winter-time. I have the lights
on about 12 hours a day, so the plants get full-spectrum sunlight at the
equivalent of a spring/autumn equinox, which doubles as a growing/fruiting
season with the 2 different kinds of bulbs.

I must admit, my shelf is a huge luxury. I'm very keen on energy efficiency
etc (house completely kitted out with CFLs etc) but the daylight lamps are a
really special thing. I switch them off in the summer if I'm not using them,
they get very hot.

Andrew

When I'm a bit cold and miserable I just look at my "indoor garden" for
a
bit, which sports a horrifically energy-guzzling daylight lamp. My
indoor
plants are happier than I am at this time of year!

Andrew, what lamp?
How much power?
How high above the bench
What area for the bench?

I actually have 2 x 250W "Eco-lite" daylight lamps, one fitted with a metal
halide bulb, one fitted with a sodium bulb. The two bulbs between them give
full-spectrum daylight, from the springtime-like metal halide (strong in
blue and violet end of spectrum, good for plant growth) to the autumn-like
sodium (strong in yellow and red end of spectrum, good for stimulating
fruiting).

The lights are hung above a shelf which is about 4' long and about a foot
wide. They hang about 3' above the shelf, which is necessary to avoid
scorching the plants. The shelf has a bit of plywood about 4" high nailed to
the front, and I've lined the resulting trough with a black plastic sheet to
make a water-trough, which is handy because it means you can leave the
plants for a few days without them drying out. The heat from the lamps tends
to encourage transpiration.

I've grown all sorts of things under them including herbs of all
descriptions and chillis, all year round, although they aren't normally
required in the summer, except for "specialist" herbs - South-facing window
sills will do just fine in the summer! The lamps are great for starting off
stuff for outside in the spring - I don't have a greenhouse. I haven't found
anything yet that didn't love it under these lamps - they go like billy-o.

I sometimes spend hours fiddling about with the plants on my shelf in the
winter - I can actually feel the strong heat and light cheering me up! The
plants love it - they don't even realise it's winter-time. I have the lights
on about 12 hours a day, so the plants get full-spectrum sunlight at the
equivalent of a spring/autumn equinox, which doubles as a growing/fruiting
season with the 2 different kinds of bulbs.

I must admit, my shelf is a huge luxury. I'm very keen on energy efficiency
etc (house completely kitted out with CFLs etc) but the daylight lamps are a
really special thing. I switch them off in the summer if I'm not using them,
they get very hot.

Andrew