"Brian Watson" wrote in message
...

"Janet Baraclough .." wrote in
message ...

When I replied, she started a new thread in which to play the injured
innocent,(common troll tactic).

Third, she played the "I'm leaving" card..another troll habit which
usually means " I'm just slipping into another posting ID.

Martin, for example.

What makes you say that?

[snip]

Franz

"Judith Lea" wrote in message
...
In article , Franz Heymann
writes

Annelies,
Please do not unsubscribe. The readers of this ng are not at all like
Janet. She is unique,

I agree she is unique in that she is enormously kind and helpful and
it's not fair Franz to portray her as anything else just because she
tells it as it is.

In this instance, she did not. She shot her mouth off.

Franz

"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
...
The message m
from lerato1uk contains these
words:

First, she posted a question and shortly followed it up with a
flammable
demand for answers.

Wrong.
I posted a request after I had seen and admired the available
knowledge on this list for quite a while. I did NOT demand answers, I
simply expressed my amazement since (perhaps in my ignorance) I
didn't think I had posted a very complicated/difficult question.
It was your mind imterpreting it the way you did - it was possibly my
awkwardness in a foreign language putting it open to
misinterpretation. It was also YOUR reaction which was not
particularly open to many interpretations nor is the reaction of a
few others on this list. .........


When I replied, she started a new thread in which to play the
injured
innocent,(common troll tactic).

Excuse me? All I wanted was to leave the list. I didn't start any
other thread, I simply answered somebody else with a question about
greenhouses (wow, something I had a little experience with) and
answered the useful reply that did come my way.

First, for the group's information, may I state unequivocably that
Annelies is who she says she is.

Unfortunately we *DO* have a nasty little troll in the group at present,
who was posting at the same time as you did, and one who is expert at
posting from false addresses and (though he denies it) from anonymous
remailers. His speciality is posting something contentious or even
overtly racist, and crossposting or diverting to another (noisy) group
the resulting hue and cry.

The validity of an address is difficult to authenticate if it is posted
through a website such as Gardenbanter - (or Privacy.net).

Watch your headers, folks, and especially the groups and follow-up lines.

Third, she played the "I'm leaving" card..another troll habit which
usually means " I'm just slipping into another posting ID. While
you're
waiting, the gullible are invited to comfort my injured sock puppet
and
try to persuade it to stay".

Wrong again. Maybe you should check your assumptions before jumping
to conclusions. Not everybody has the same plays in mind as you
obviously are thinking about.

Shall we take this as a case of mistaken identity and let things simmer
down for a while? And hope that Annelies will understand that mistakes
can be made, especially under current circumstances?

Particularly when folk like Janet Barraclough and Brian Watson get the bit
getween the teeth.
I expect early apologies to Annelies from both of them for their most
shocking display of guitter manners.

Franz

"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
...
The message m
from lerato1uk contains these
words:

First, she posted a question and shortly followed it up with a
flammable
demand for answers.

Wrong.
I posted a request after I had seen and admired the available
knowledge on this list for quite a while. I did NOT demand answers, I
simply expressed my amazement since (perhaps in my ignorance) I
didn't think I had posted a very complicated/difficult question.
It was your mind imterpreting it the way you did - it was possibly my
awkwardness in a foreign language putting it open to
misinterpretation. It was also YOUR reaction which was not
particularly open to many interpretations nor is the reaction of a
few others on this list. .........


When I replied, she started a new thread in which to play the
injured
innocent,(common troll tactic).

Excuse me? All I wanted was to leave the list. I didn't start any
other thread, I simply answered somebody else with a question about
greenhouses (wow, something I had a little experience with) and
answered the useful reply that did come my way.

First, for the group's information, may I state unequivocably that
Annelies is who she says she is.

Unfortunately we *DO* have a nasty little troll in the group at present,
who was posting at the same time as you did, and one who is expert at
posting from false addresses and (though he denies it) from anonymous
remailers. His speciality is posting something contentious or even
overtly racist, and crossposting or diverting to another (noisy) group
the resulting hue and cry.

The validity of an address is difficult to authenticate if it is posted
through a website such as Gardenbanter - (or Privacy.net).

Watch your headers, folks, and especially the groups and follow-up lines.

Third, she played the "I'm leaving" card..another troll habit which
usually means " I'm just slipping into another posting ID. While
you're
waiting, the gullible are invited to comfort my injured sock puppet
and
try to persuade it to stay".

Wrong again. Maybe you should check your assumptions before jumping
to conclusions. Not everybody has the same plays in mind as you
obviously are thinking about.

Shall we take this as a case of mistaken identity and let things simmer
down for a while? And hope that Annelies will understand that mistakes
can be made, especially under current circumstances?

Particularly when folk like Janet Barraclough and Brian Watson get the bit
getween the teeth.
I expect early apologies to Annelies from both of them for their most
shocking display of guitter manners.

Franz