What is it?
 

The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the moment
for Mothers' Day.

Anyway, I've kept it moist, and in a cool conservatory, however the leaves
have all dried p and drop of if touched. The fruit is starting to shrivel
too. Before someone says it's dead, the stem still seems green and 'alive'
and so do some of the small branches.

I suspect it needs repotting as the roots are starting to poke out the soil.

Any advice?

Many thanks,

Lee.
www.menumania.co.uk

What is it?
 

In article , Lee
BARRASS lee@[nospam] writes
The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the moment
for Mothers' Day.

Solanum? Are the fruit smooth and marble sized?


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

What is it?
 

The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the
moment
for Mothers' Day.

Solanum? Are the fruit smooth and marble sized?

No. Marble sized but more like a minature orange.




--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

What is it?
 

The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the
moment
for Mothers' Day.

Solanum? Are the fruit smooth and marble sized?

No. Marble sized but more like a minature orange.




--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

What is it?
 

Lee BARRASS14/3/04 3:39

et


The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the
moment
for Mothers' Day.

Solanum? Are the fruit smooth and marble sized?

No. Marble sized but more like a minature orange.


Kumquat?
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)

What is it?
 

Lee BARRASS14/3/04 3:39

et


The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the
moment
for Mothers' Day.

Solanum? Are the fruit smooth and marble sized?

No. Marble sized but more like a minature orange.


Kumquat?
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)

What is it?
 

The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the
moment
for Mothers' Day.

Solanum? Are the fruit smooth and marble sized?

No. Marble sized but more like a minature orange.




--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

What is it?
 

Lee BARRASS14/3/04 3:39

et


The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the
moment
for Mothers' Day.

Solanum? Are the fruit smooth and marble sized?

No. Marble sized but more like a minature orange.


Kumquat?
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)

What is it?
 

In article , Lee
BARRASS lee@[nospam] writes

The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the
moment
for Mothers' Day.

Solanum? Are the fruit smooth and marble sized?

No. Marble sized but more like a minature orange.

Citrus mitis?

Brown leaves doesn't sound good.
Have you kept it *too* moist?
Where have you kept it?
Any fine spiders webs on the tips of the shoots? Any round brown scales
on the underneath of the leaves?


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

What is it?
 

In article , Lee
BARRASS lee@[nospam] writes

The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the
moment
for Mothers' Day.

Solanum? Are the fruit smooth and marble sized?

No. Marble sized but more like a minature orange.

Citrus mitis?

Brown leaves doesn't sound good.
Have you kept it *too* moist?
Where have you kept it?
Any fine spiders webs on the tips of the shoots? Any round brown scales
on the underneath of the leaves?


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

What is it?
 

In article , Lee
BARRASS lee@[nospam] writes

The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the
moment
for Mothers' Day.

Solanum? Are the fruit smooth and marble sized?

No. Marble sized but more like a minature orange.

Citrus mitis?

Brown leaves doesn't sound good.
Have you kept it *too* moist?
Where have you kept it?
Any fine spiders webs on the tips of the shoots? Any round brown scales
on the underneath of the leaves?


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

What is it?
 

"Lee BARRASS" wrote in message
...
The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the moment
for Mothers' Day.

Could be a Kumquat

Anyway, I've kept it moist, and in a cool conservatory, however the leaves
have all dried p and drop of if touched. The fruit is starting to shrivel
too. Before someone says it's dead, the stem still seems green and
'alive'
and so do some of the small branches.

I suspect it needs repotting as the roots are starting to poke out the
soil.

Any advice?

Let us know if you manage to get it to recover.

Franz

What is it?
 

"Lee BARRASS" wrote in message
...
The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the moment
for Mothers' Day.

Could be a Kumquat

Anyway, I've kept it moist, and in a cool conservatory, however the leaves
have all dried p and drop of if touched. The fruit is starting to shrivel
too. Before someone says it's dead, the stem still seems green and
'alive'
and so do some of the small branches.

I suspect it needs repotting as the roots are starting to poke out the
soil.

Any advice?

Let us know if you manage to get it to recover.

Franz

What is it?
 

"Lee BARRASS" wrote in message
...
The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the moment
for Mothers' Day.

Could be a Kumquat

Anyway, I've kept it moist, and in a cool conservatory, however the leaves
have all dried p and drop of if touched. The fruit is starting to shrivel
too. Before someone says it's dead, the stem still seems green and
'alive'
and so do some of the small branches.

I suspect it needs repotting as the roots are starting to poke out the
soil.

Any advice?

Let us know if you manage to get it to recover.

Franz

What is it?
 

Leaves aren't brown - just dry and srop off when touched. Fine roots are
poppin out of soil - due for a repot tomorrow!


"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , Lee
BARRASS lee@[nospam] writes

The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit
on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the
moment
for Mothers' Day.

Solanum? Are the fruit smooth and marble sized?

No. Marble sized but more like a minature orange.

Citrus mitis?

Brown leaves doesn't sound good.
Have you kept it *too* moist?
Where have you kept it?
Any fine spiders webs on the tips of the shoots? Any round brown scales
on the underneath of the leaves?


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

What is it?
 

Leaves aren't brown - just dry and srop off when touched. Fine roots are
poppin out of soil - due for a repot tomorrow!


"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , Lee
BARRASS lee@[nospam] writes

The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit
on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the
moment
for Mothers' Day.

Solanum? Are the fruit smooth and marble sized?

No. Marble sized but more like a minature orange.

Citrus mitis?

Brown leaves doesn't sound good.
Have you kept it *too* moist?
Where have you kept it?
Any fine spiders webs on the tips of the shoots? Any round brown scales
on the underneath of the leaves?


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

What is it?
 

Leaves aren't brown - just dry and srop off when touched. Fine roots are
poppin out of soil - due for a repot tomorrow!


"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , Lee
BARRASS lee@[nospam] writes

The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit
on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the
moment
for Mothers' Day.

Solanum? Are the fruit smooth and marble sized?

No. Marble sized but more like a minature orange.

Citrus mitis?

Brown leaves doesn't sound good.
Have you kept it *too* moist?
Where have you kept it?
Any fine spiders webs on the tips of the shoots? Any round brown scales
on the underneath of the leaves?


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

What is it?
 

How about Calamondin? I have seen some of these in garden centres recently along with mini lemons.

Kath

On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:56:52 GMT, "Lee BARRASS" wrote:

Leaves aren't brown - just dry and srop off when touched. Fine roots are
poppin out of soil - due for a repot tomorrow!


"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , Lee
BARRASS lee@[nospam] writes

The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit
on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the
moment
for Mothers' Day.

Solanum? Are the fruit smooth and marble sized?

No. Marble sized but more like a minature orange.

Citrus mitis?

Brown leaves doesn't sound good.
Have you kept it *too* moist?
Where have you kept it?
Any fine spiders webs on the tips of the shoots? Any round brown scales
on the underneath of the leaves?


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

What is it?
 

How about Calamondin? I have seen some of these in garden centres recently along with mini lemons.

Kath

On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:56:52 GMT, "Lee BARRASS" wrote:

Leaves aren't brown - just dry and srop off when touched. Fine roots are
poppin out of soil - due for a repot tomorrow!


"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , Lee
BARRASS lee@[nospam] writes

The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit
on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the
moment
for Mothers' Day.

Solanum? Are the fruit smooth and marble sized?

No. Marble sized but more like a minature orange.

Citrus mitis?

Brown leaves doesn't sound good.
Have you kept it *too* moist?
Where have you kept it?
Any fine spiders webs on the tips of the shoots? Any round brown scales
on the underneath of the leaves?


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

What is it?
 

How about Calamondin? I have seen some of these in garden centres recently along with mini lemons.

Kath

On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:56:52 GMT, "Lee BARRASS" wrote:

Leaves aren't brown - just dry and srop off when touched. Fine roots are
poppin out of soil - due for a repot tomorrow!


"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , Lee
BARRASS lee@[nospam] writes

The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit
on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the
moment
for Mothers' Day.

Solanum? Are the fruit smooth and marble sized?

No. Marble sized but more like a minature orange.

Citrus mitis?

Brown leaves doesn't sound good.
Have you kept it *too* moist?
Where have you kept it?
Any fine spiders webs on the tips of the shoots? Any round brown scales
on the underneath of the leaves?


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

What is it?
 

How about Calamondin? I have seen some of these in garden centres recently along with mini lemons.

Kath

On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:56:52 GMT, "Lee BARRASS" wrote:

Leaves aren't brown - just dry and srop off when touched. Fine roots are
poppin out of soil - due for a repot tomorrow!


"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , Lee
BARRASS lee@[nospam] writes

The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange fruit
on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the
moment
for Mothers' Day.

Solanum? Are the fruit smooth and marble sized?

No. Marble sized but more like a minature orange.

Citrus mitis?

Brown leaves doesn't sound good.
Have you kept it *too* moist?
Where have you kept it?
Any fine spiders webs on the tips of the shoots? Any round brown scales
on the underneath of the leaves?


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

What is it?
 

Thats it! I think.

I'll post a pic of it tomorrow.

The question is - how can I make it better?


"Lee and Kath" wrote in message
...
How about Calamondin? I have seen some of these in garden centres recently
along with mini lemons.

Kath

On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:56:52 GMT, "Lee BARRASS"
wrote:

Leaves aren't brown - just dry and srop off when touched. Fine roots are
poppin out of soil - due for a repot tomorrow!


"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , Lee
BARRASS lee@[nospam] writes

The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing
so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange
fruit
on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the
moment
for Mothers' Day.

Solanum? Are the fruit smooth and marble sized?

No. Marble sized but more like a minature orange.

Citrus mitis?

Brown leaves doesn't sound good.
Have you kept it *too* moist?
Where have you kept it?
Any fine spiders webs on the tips of the shoots? Any round brown scales
on the underneath of the leaves?


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

What is it?
 

Thats it! I think.

I'll post a pic of it tomorrow.

The question is - how can I make it better?


"Lee and Kath" wrote in message
...
How about Calamondin? I have seen some of these in garden centres recently
along with mini lemons.

Kath

On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 21:56:52 GMT, "Lee BARRASS"
wrote:

Leaves aren't brown - just dry and srop off when touched. Fine roots are
poppin out of soil - due for a repot tomorrow!


"Kay Easton" wrote in message
...
In article , Lee
BARRASS lee@[nospam] writes

The other week I bought a plant at B&Q. The tag has gone missing
so I
don't
know what it is.

It's like a small orange tree (30cm high ish) with small orange
fruit
on,
although it's not quite the same as the one they are selling at the
moment
for Mothers' Day.

Solanum? Are the fruit smooth and marble sized?

No. Marble sized but more like a minature orange.

Citrus mitis?

Brown leaves doesn't sound good.
Have you kept it *too* moist?
Where have you kept it?
Any fine spiders webs on the tips of the shoots? Any round brown scales
on the underneath of the leaves?


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

"jakell" wrote in message
. uk...
Can anyone tell me what this is.........Jakell



Yes it is a picture posted to a non binary newsgroup.

"jakell" wrote in message
. uk...
Can anyone tell me what this is.........Jakell

Don't post graphics attachments to this ng, as this is a text-only
newsgroup and many of the servers will strip the attachment from your
post.

Franz

"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...

"jakell" wrote in message
. uk...
Can anyone tell me what this is.........Jakell

Don't post graphics attachments to this ng, as this is a text-only
newsgroup and many of the servers will strip the attachment from your
post.

My server seems to have blocked the entire original post thankfully.


--

Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland

In article , GOOD GOLLY MISS
mOLLY writes

"jakell" wrote in message
.uk...
Can anyone tell me what this is.........Jakell



Yes it is a picture posted to a non binary newsgroup.

Which a lot of us can't even see since our ISP removes them, so it's a
bit self -defeating.


--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

"Kay" wrote in message
...
In article , GOOD GOLLY MISS
mOLLY writes

"jakell" wrote in message
.uk...
Can anyone tell me what this is.........Jakell



Yes it is a picture posted to a non binary newsgroup.

Which a lot of us can't even see since our ISP removes them, so it's a
bit self -defeating.

I even got a rather snotty email from the original sender of the binary
tonight complaining about my earlier post in this thread. Says they are a
novice Usenet poster which seems obvious, also now an ignored novice.

Novices should learn by their mistakes not criticise those who point them
out?


--

Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland

"Cerumen" wrote in message
...

"Kay" wrote in message
...
In article , GOOD GOLLY MISS
mOLLY writes

"jakell" wrote in message
.uk...
Can anyone tell me what this is.........Jakell



Yes it is a picture posted to a non binary newsgroup.

Which a lot of us can't even see since our ISP removes them, so it's a
bit self -defeating.

Well, I guess if people give snotty and ill thought replies , which I guess
were meant to be *whitty*, like those in this thread ( surprises me given
the usual standard of response here - shame on you all!) then I guess you
can expect the OP to be upset.

Surely a simple, sorry this group doesnt take binary pictures and *I* cant
see it would be better.

Some of us on the other hand do not have machinery which is floorewd by
binary and do not have net nanny ISP's who remove them for us!

I could see the picture. I reckon a lot could and are afraid to say because
of the silly and in some cases downright nasty replies saying so is
likely to cause

Unfortunately I am sorry, I dont know what the plant was, it looked like a
form of wild fennel to me.
I could identify the bamboo cane, the leg ( kneee down) and the bag of
compost / irish peat? next to it.

Much better

I even got a rather snotty email from the original sender of the binary
tonight complaining about my earlier post in this thread. Says they are a
novice Usenet poster which seems obvious, also now an ignored novice.

Novices should learn by their mistakes not criticise those who point them
out?


--

Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland

In article , lynd
writes

"Cerumen" wrote in message
...

"Kay" wrote in message
...

Which a lot of us can't even see since our ISP removes them, so it's a
bit self -defeating.

Well, I guess if people give snotty and ill thought replies , which I guess
were meant to be *whitty*, like those in this thread ( surprises me given
the usual standard of response here - shame on you all!) then I guess you
can expect the OP to be upset.

Surely a simple, sorry this group doesnt take binary pictures and *I* cant
see it would be better.

I doubt whether the OP cares a damn whether *I* can see it. The point I
was making was that several ISPs trim off binaries so that the OP was
posting in a way that made sure that a good number of those from whom he
was seeking advice were not in a position to be able to give that
advice.

If it were only me that couldn't see it, it wouldn't matter in the
slightest, from the pov of the OP getting his answer.


Some of us on the other hand do not have machinery which is floorewd by
binary and do not have net nanny ISP's who remove them for us!

Well, great! So you don't need to pay attention to established
conventions.


--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

"Kay" wrote in message
...
In article , lynd
writes

"Cerumen" wrote in message
...

"Kay" wrote in message
...


I doubt whether the OP cares a damn whether *I* can see it. The point I
was making was that several ISPs trim off binaries so that the OP was
posting in a way that made sure that a good number of those from whom he
was seeking advice were not in a position to be able to give that
advice.


But I think the point here is not so mcu what people have said as the way
they chose to say it?

And again Kay, your choice of comment here reflects the approach.

Its crass and rude and is off putting to all posters.
Although it could be a reflection of modern times.

let me offer a different example. In the past if someone had B.O. most
people would have said nothing - just moved away ( in this internet context
not responded). Others who could deal with the smell ( in this case can see
the picture) would deal with it stoically.

Someone may have politely taken that person aside and very gently tried to
suggest that the person needs a deoderant or a wash ( perhaps in this
context - *politely* suggesting that a different form of posting may be
required).

Now though someone just shouts out to the whole room " COR, YOU
STINK!!!!!!" and possibly even worse add "P*SS O** ( the equivillent here
being the remarks made by some)

Its embarrassing to all and hurtful to the individual.
Have we lost our manners?

I make mistakes all the time - here typo's spelling mistakes, in life all
sorts of things. I a just human. I know others make mistakes too - they are
human. But some are "SO Perfect" that they choose to criticise and shout
about the mistakes of others.

There are two quotes from my childhood that come to mind ( both biblical
actually) - I'll use the most modern paraphrase for the first:
Dont criticise unless you want to be criticised. If you criticise the
criticism that comes back will be more than that given out. How can you help
remove a speck from your friends eye if you have a ruddy great big log in
your own?

and ( using the old translation)

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".

You have an interesting sig - pitty its not heeded by yourself here.

There are net nannies with the touch of velvet, few and far between I am
afraid, then you have the net nanny on a par with Hitler's SS, the majority
I am afraid.

Of course these did have the advantage of not having to learn newsgroup
netiquette as they were born with it. No learning curve with them. Possibly
born with the skill to drive and didn't have any 'L' plates, that's why they
are unable to tolerate those of us who unfortunately had to learn to drive,
by being taught by someone else, and then have to take a test as I did on
25th July 1955.

Mike

please see enclosed reply I sent to "Cerumin", I didn't think it was bad
enough to earn his response, but if my manner of writting is not what is
expected at groups, I would appreciate any advice people can give.
From: "C"
To: "James Kelly"
Subject: what is it?
Date: 29 August 2004 20:00

Indeed how stupid of you not to first read the group before contributing
even, as you will have seen, and hopefully learnt some groups welcome
picture and are normally tagged "binary" others do not. I didn't block your
picture my newsgroup server did because you broke the rules, you however
seem not only to be a novice but an argumentative one and therefore I have
now totally blocked you.

You might learn how to use a spell checker as well it might make your emails
and Usenet postings more accurate and readable.

I see from your headers

""From: "James Kelly"
To: "Cerumen"
References:

Subject: what is it?
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X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437

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X-SpamCop-Checked: 192.168.1.101 195.188.213.63 62.31.98.2""""

You use Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437
that has a default spell check, try allowing it to do it's job.

Goodbye

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Kelly"
To: "Cerumen"
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 5:34 PM
Subject: what is it?


I'm sorry that you think blocking a picture of a plant is so great. Being
a
novice to computing I was unaware of the restrictions on getting
information
from what appeared to be a group on gardening, which afterall is a mainly
visual experience. How stupid of me.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cerumen"
Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 8:06 PM
Subject: what is it?



"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...

"jakell" wrote in message
. uk...
Can anyone tell me what this is.........Jakell

Don't post graphics attachments to this ng, as this is a text-only
newsgroup and many of the servers will strip the attachment from your
post.

My server seems to have blocked the entire original post thankfully.


--

Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland








"Cerumen" wrote in message
...

"Kay" wrote in message
...
In article , GOOD GOLLY MISS
mOLLY writes

"jakell" wrote in message
.uk...
Can anyone tell me what this is.........Jakell



Yes it is a picture posted to a non binary newsgroup.

Which a lot of us can't even see since our ISP removes them, so it's a
bit self -defeating.

I even got a rather snotty email from the original sender of the binary
tonight complaining about my earlier post in this thread. Says they are a
novice Usenet poster which seems obvious, also now an ignored novice.

Novices should learn by their mistakes not criticise those who point them
out?


--

Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland

"jakell" wrote in message
. uk...
please see enclosed reply I sent to "Cerumin", I didn't think it was bad
enough to earn his response, but if my manner of writting is not what is
expected at groups, I would appreciate any advice people can give.
From: "C"
To: "James Kelly"
Subject: what is it?
Date: 29 August 2004 20:00

Snipping all .... for bandwidth ( another nettiquette thing)

Microsoft Outlook does not have always have a default spell checker. You
have to set it to spell check. A novice may not know this either and
obviously the less than novice suggesting it not correctly informed.

I use outlook and my ( so called default) checker, rarely kicks in
properly despite having it checked to kick in.
So there are more things in Heaven and Earth Horatio..... and not spelling
correctly isnt going to stop the sun coming up or going down is it?





Indeed how stupid of you not to first read the group before contributing
even, as you will have seen, and hopefully learnt some groups welcome
picture and are normally tagged "binary" others do not. I didn't block
your
picture my newsgroup server did because you broke the rules, you however
seem not only to be a novice but an argumentative one and therefore I have
now totally blocked you.

You might learn how to use a spell checker as well it might make your
emails
and Usenet postings more accurate and readable.

I see from your headers

""From: "James Kelly"
To: "Cerumen"
References:

Subject: what is it?
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 17:34:13 +0100
MIME-Version: 1.0
Status: U
X-UIDL: 1093797262.11402.mail04.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net, S=2857
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437

version=2.64
X-SpamCop-Checked: 192.168.1.101 195.188.213.63 62.31.98.2""""

You use Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437
that has a default spell check, try allowing it to do it's job.

Goodbye

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Kelly"
To: "Cerumen"
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 5:34 PM
Subject: what is it?


I'm sorry that you think blocking a picture of a plant is so great.
Being
a
novice to computing I was unaware of the restrictions on getting
information
from what appeared to be a group on gardening, which afterall is a
mainly
visual experience. How stupid of me.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cerumen"
Newsgroups: uk.rec.gardening
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 8:06 PM
Subject: what is it?



"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
...

"jakell" wrote in message
. uk...
Can anyone tell me what this is.........Jakell

Don't post graphics attachments to this ng, as this is a text-only
newsgroup and many of the servers will strip the attachment from
your
post.

My server seems to have blocked the entire original post thankfully.


--

Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland








"Cerumen" wrote in message
...

"Kay" wrote in message
...
In article , GOOD GOLLY MISS
mOLLY writes

"jakell" wrote in message
.uk...
Can anyone tell me what this is.........Jakell



Yes it is a picture posted to a non binary newsgroup.

Which a lot of us can't even see since our ISP removes them, so it's a
bit self -defeating.

I even got a rather snotty email from the original sender of the binary
tonight complaining about my earlier post in this thread. Says they are
a
novice Usenet poster which seems obvious, also now an ignored novice.

Novices should learn by their mistakes not criticise those who point
them
out?


--

Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland

And tops posting ....... opps , didnt clear the bandwidth. Rev. Mother I
have sinned.
I made a mistake.

"mich" wrote in message
...

In article , mich
writes

"Kay" wrote in message
...
In article , lynd
writes

I doubt whether the OP cares a damn whether *I* can see it. The point I
was making was that several ISPs trim off binaries so that the OP was
posting in a way that made sure that a good number of those from whom he
was seeking advice were not in a position to be able to give that
advice.


But I think the point here is not so mcu what people have said as the way
they chose to say it?

And again Kay, your choice of comment here reflects the approach.

Its crass and rude and is off putting to all posters.

Although it could be a reflection of modern times.

It is not a reflection of modern times. It is a reflection of words like
'snotty' in the post I was replying to. My original response was
perfectly polite, and helpful in that I gave a good reason why it made
sense not to post binaries here. My second post was a trifle short
tempered, but was in response to one which was insulting, and to an
attitude of 'I've got a fast download and an ISP which passes on
binaries, so it doesn't matter about the conventions of usenet or the
problems of those still using slow dial up connections'.

I'm damned if I see the need to remain unfailingly polite in the face of
rudeness from others.


You have an interesting sig - pitty its not heeded by yourself here.

If you are addressing me, I think you have completely lost track of who
posted what.


--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

I'm damned if I see the need to remain unfailingly polite in the face of
rudeness from others.


So if somebody swore at you, you would lower yourself to their level and
swear back?

I know of a past 'Manager' who did that.

One should lead by example, bring them up to your standard.

Mike

"Kay" wrote in message
...
In article , mich
writes



You have an interesting sig - pitty its not heeded by yourself here.

If you are addressing me, I think you have completely lost track of who
posted what.

Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

No I didnt loose sight of who posted what.
Your sig is above isnt it Kay?

As I said, a pitty you dont heed it.

"Mike" wrote in message
...



I'm damned if I see the need to remain unfailingly polite in the face of
rudeness from others.


So if somebody swore at you, you would lower yourself to their level and
swear back?

I know of a past 'Manager' who did that.

One should lead by example, bring them up to your standard.

I agree with this whole heartedly.

"lynd" wrote in message
...

[snip]

Well, I guess if people give snotty and ill thought replies , which
I guess
were meant to be *whitty*,

The word you want is "witty".

Surely a simple, sorry this group doesnt take binary pictures and
*I* cant
see it would be better.

Some of us on the other hand do not have machinery which is
floorewd

What is "floorewd"?

by
binary and do not have net nanny ISP's who remove them for us!

Well, you can't expect to have everything.

I could see the picture. I reckon a lot could and are afraid to say
because
of the silly and in some cases downright nasty replies saying so
is
likely to cause

Please learn that poisoned binary files are a favourite way of
propagating viruses.
Most newsgroups, other than the *.bin ones are supposed to be
text-only files.

Franz