This year, amongst a mixture of old and new daffodils, there are a
number of 'blind' plants.

Should these be thrown away or can they be persuaded to
flower next - and subsequent - years?

On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:38:28 +0000, John
wrote:

This year, amongst a mixture of old and new daffodils, there are a
number of 'blind' plants.

Should these be thrown away or can they be persuaded to
flower next - and subsequent - years?

Does 'blind' mean with foliage but non-blooming? Older daffodils
become crowded as they produce additional bulbs, and flowering
diminishes. Dig them up after the foliage dies down, separate the
bulbs, and plant in new holes.

On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:38:28 +0000, John
wrote:

This year, amongst a mixture of old and new daffodils, there are a
number of 'blind' plants.

Should these be thrown away or can they be persuaded to
flower next - and subsequent - years?

Does 'blind' mean with foliage but non-blooming? Older daffodils
become crowded as they produce additional bulbs, and flowering
diminishes. Dig them up after the foliage dies down, separate the
bulbs, and plant in new holes.

On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:38:28 +0000, John
wrote:

This year, amongst a mixture of old and new daffodils, there are a
number of 'blind' plants.

Should these be thrown away or can they be persuaded to
flower next - and subsequent - years?

Does 'blind' mean with foliage but non-blooming? Older daffodils
become crowded as they produce additional bulbs, and flowering
diminishes. Dig them up after the foliage dies down, separate the
bulbs, and plant in new holes.

On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:38:28 +0000, John
wrote:

This year, amongst a mixture of old and new daffodils, there are a
number of 'blind' plants.

Should these be thrown away or can they be persuaded to
flower next - and subsequent - years?

Does 'blind' mean with foliage but non-blooming? Older daffodils
become crowded as they produce additional bulbs, and flowering
diminishes. Dig them up after the foliage dies down, separate the
bulbs, and plant in new holes.

On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:38:28 +0000, John
wrote:

This year, amongst a mixture of old and new daffodils, there are a
number of 'blind' plants.

Should these be thrown away or can they be persuaded to
flower next - and subsequent - years?

Does 'blind' mean with foliage but non-blooming? Older daffodils
become crowded as they produce additional bulbs, and flowering
diminishes. Dig them up after the foliage dies down, separate the
bulbs, and plant in new holes.

The message
from John contains these words:

This year, amongst a mixture of old and new daffodils, there are a
number of 'blind' plants.

Should these be thrown away or can they be persuaded to
flower next - and subsequent - years?

That depends on the cause of the blindness. It could be overcrowding,
or disease.

Good news: It's normal for daffodil bulbs to multiply underground, and
as the clumps become crowded, some of the smaller bulbs are so cramped
they can't ever grow to flowering size.They just produce leaves, and are
called blind. The leaves are healthy and green. It's cured by forking up
the whole clump around now, with the leaves still green, gently pull the
bulbs apart to separate them, and replant them all right away, at least
4 inches deep, well separated out. (Leaves will droop a bit and look
temporarily untidy, don't worry about that). Some clumps contain amazing
numbers of baby bulbs, a hundred or more. The fast way to replant large
numbers is by just pushing the spade into the soil and pull it back to
open a slit, dropping the separated bulb well down inside it, and
firming the slit shut with a fairly heavy tread of your foot so the bulb
isn't left sitting in an air pocket.No fertiliser is required. In future
seasons the small overcrowded bulbs will grow on to become flowering
size and in a couple of years you'll have a fabulous huge display.

Bad news: If leaves which are currently in full growth are partly
green but badly mottled with brown streaks and spots, the bulbs have a
disease which has permanently reduced their ability to flower and can
spread to other daffodils. Dig them up and burn them.

Janet.

Janet Baraclough..16/3/04 12:59
k

The message
from John contains these words:

This year, amongst a mixture of old and new daffodils, there are a
number of 'blind' plants.

Should these be thrown away or can they be persuaded to
flower next - and subsequent - years?

That depends on the cause of the blindness. It could be overcrowding,
or disease.
snip

Bad news: If leaves which are currently in full growth are partly
green but badly mottled with brown streaks and spots, the bulbs have a
disease which has permanently reduced their ability to flower and can
spread to other daffodils. Dig them up and burn them.


In our experience, bulbs can be saved, depending on the circumstances.
There's a disease I cannot remember the name of (but will try to find) which
as in our daffs causes them to be blind and the leaves turn brown at the
tips and die back too fast to nourish the bulb. For the last two years, Ray
has sprayed the ground where we have literally hundreds of bulbs under the
Cedar tree. Again, I'll get the name tomorrow and I'm sorry to be posting
half information but don't want John to rush out and rip out his daffs and
burn them IF there is a solution.
Ray mixes a few drops of washing up liquid into the fungicide to make sure
the leaves are well coated and gives them at least two sprays.
This year, the improvement is very noticeable and many more bulbs are
flowering.

--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)

The message
from John contains these words:

This year, amongst a mixture of old and new daffodils, there are a
number of 'blind' plants.

Should these be thrown away or can they be persuaded to
flower next - and subsequent - years?

That depends on the cause of the blindness. It could be overcrowding,
or disease.

Good news: It's normal for daffodil bulbs to multiply underground, and
as the clumps become crowded, some of the smaller bulbs are so cramped
they can't ever grow to flowering size.They just produce leaves, and are
called blind. The leaves are healthy and green. It's cured by forking up
the whole clump around now, with the leaves still green, gently pull the
bulbs apart to separate them, and replant them all right away, at least
4 inches deep, well separated out. (Leaves will droop a bit and look
temporarily untidy, don't worry about that). Some clumps contain amazing
numbers of baby bulbs, a hundred or more. The fast way to replant large
numbers is by just pushing the spade into the soil and pull it back to
open a slit, dropping the separated bulb well down inside it, and
firming the slit shut with a fairly heavy tread of your foot so the bulb
isn't left sitting in an air pocket.No fertiliser is required. In future
seasons the small overcrowded bulbs will grow on to become flowering
size and in a couple of years you'll have a fabulous huge display.

Bad news: If leaves which are currently in full growth are partly
green but badly mottled with brown streaks and spots, the bulbs have a
disease which has permanently reduced their ability to flower and can
spread to other daffodils. Dig them up and burn them.

Janet.

On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:38:28 +0000, John
wrote:

This year, amongst a mixture of old and new daffodils, there are a
number of 'blind' plants.

Should these be thrown away or can they be persuaded to
flower next - and subsequent - years?

Does 'blind' mean with foliage but non-blooming? Older daffodils
become crowded as they produce additional bulbs, and flowering
diminishes. Dig them up after the foliage dies down, separate the
bulbs, and plant in new holes.

The message
from John contains these words:

This year, amongst a mixture of old and new daffodils, there are a
number of 'blind' plants.

Should these be thrown away or can they be persuaded to
flower next - and subsequent - years?

That depends on the cause of the blindness. It could be overcrowding,
or disease.

Good news: It's normal for daffodil bulbs to multiply underground, and
as the clumps become crowded, some of the smaller bulbs are so cramped
they can't ever grow to flowering size.They just produce leaves, and are
called blind. The leaves are healthy and green. It's cured by forking up
the whole clump around now, with the leaves still green, gently pull the
bulbs apart to separate them, and replant them all right away, at least
4 inches deep, well separated out. (Leaves will droop a bit and look
temporarily untidy, don't worry about that). Some clumps contain amazing
numbers of baby bulbs, a hundred or more. The fast way to replant large
numbers is by just pushing the spade into the soil and pull it back to
open a slit, dropping the separated bulb well down inside it, and
firming the slit shut with a fairly heavy tread of your foot so the bulb
isn't left sitting in an air pocket.No fertiliser is required. In future
seasons the small overcrowded bulbs will grow on to become flowering
size and in a couple of years you'll have a fabulous huge display.

Bad news: If leaves which are currently in full growth are partly
green but badly mottled with brown streaks and spots, the bulbs have a
disease which has permanently reduced their ability to flower and can
spread to other daffodils. Dig them up and burn them.

Janet.

Janet Baraclough..16/3/04 12:59
k

The message
from John contains these words:

This year, amongst a mixture of old and new daffodils, there are a
number of 'blind' plants.

Should these be thrown away or can they be persuaded to
flower next - and subsequent - years?

That depends on the cause of the blindness. It could be overcrowding,
or disease.
snip

Bad news: If leaves which are currently in full growth are partly
green but badly mottled with brown streaks and spots, the bulbs have a
disease which has permanently reduced their ability to flower and can
spread to other daffodils. Dig them up and burn them.


In our experience, bulbs can be saved, depending on the circumstances.
There's a disease I cannot remember the name of (but will try to find) which
as in our daffs causes them to be blind and the leaves turn brown at the
tips and die back too fast to nourish the bulb. For the last two years, Ray
has sprayed the ground where we have literally hundreds of bulbs under the
Cedar tree. Again, I'll get the name tomorrow and I'm sorry to be posting
half information but don't want John to rush out and rip out his daffs and
burn them IF there is a solution.
Ray mixes a few drops of washing up liquid into the fungicide to make sure
the leaves are well coated and gives them at least two sprays.
This year, the improvement is very noticeable and many more bulbs are
flowering.

--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)

Janet Baraclough..16/3/04 12:59
k

The message
from John contains these words:

This year, amongst a mixture of old and new daffodils, there are a
number of 'blind' plants.

Should these be thrown away or can they be persuaded to
flower next - and subsequent - years?

That depends on the cause of the blindness. It could be overcrowding,
or disease.
snip

Bad news: If leaves which are currently in full growth are partly
green but badly mottled with brown streaks and spots, the bulbs have a
disease which has permanently reduced their ability to flower and can
spread to other daffodils. Dig them up and burn them.


In our experience, bulbs can be saved, depending on the circumstances.
There's a disease I cannot remember the name of (but will try to find) which
as in our daffs causes them to be blind and the leaves turn brown at the
tips and die back too fast to nourish the bulb. For the last two years, Ray
has sprayed the ground where we have literally hundreds of bulbs under the
Cedar tree. Again, I'll get the name tomorrow and I'm sorry to be posting
half information but don't want John to rush out and rip out his daffs and
burn them IF there is a solution.
Ray mixes a few drops of washing up liquid into the fungicide to make sure
the leaves are well coated and gives them at least two sprays.
This year, the improvement is very noticeable and many more bulbs are
flowering.

--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)

"John" wrote in message
...
This year, amongst a mixture of old and new daffodils, there are a
number of 'blind' plants.

Should these be thrown away or can they be persuaded to
flower next - and subsequent - years?

Could it be that the non flowering plants are simply 'young' bulbs
which have not yet reached flowering age?

--
ned

You might find this of help

http://www.gardenforum.demon.co.uk/blind_daffs.htm

My first thought was Fly damage though the comments about shallow planting
is interesting considering last summers heat.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk