Janet Baraclough..21/3/04 1:32
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from Sacha contains these words:


I think these threads are best ignored, if I may suggest this. There is one
person in particular who starts them quite deliberately in an attempt to
cause mayhem and usually proposes the same 'solutions' to cats in the garden
etc - so dreary to be so repetitive. It's extremely childish and really
very immature but some people lead dull lives and need to get their kicks, I
suppose.
Unfortunately, the new or unwary rise to the bait all too often.......
Remember - the kill file can be your friend. ;-)

I agree completely, Sacha. (So useful for newbies when the trolls here
reveal themselves for what they are).

However, Sally's good suggestion would be a worthwhile addition to the
cats FAQ...I suppose cormaic still organises those so will forward her
post to him if Sally agrees.

Janet.

I agree. It's an excellent idea and if it stops the cat threads so much the
better. If it doesn't, let the perpetrators talk to themselves! ;-)
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)

Janet Baraclough..21/3/04 1:32
k

The message
from Sacha contains these words:


I think these threads are best ignored, if I may suggest this. There is one
person in particular who starts them quite deliberately in an attempt to
cause mayhem and usually proposes the same 'solutions' to cats in the garden
etc - so dreary to be so repetitive. It's extremely childish and really
very immature but some people lead dull lives and need to get their kicks, I
suppose.
Unfortunately, the new or unwary rise to the bait all too often.......
Remember - the kill file can be your friend. ;-)

I agree completely, Sacha. (So useful for newbies when the trolls here
reveal themselves for what they are).

However, Sally's good suggestion would be a worthwhile addition to the
cats FAQ...I suppose cormaic still organises those so will forward her
post to him if Sally agrees.

Janet.

I agree. It's an excellent idea and if it stops the cat threads so much the
better. If it doesn't, let the perpetrators talk to themselves! ;-)
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)

"Sally Thompson" wrote in message
...
We have constructed an outside wooden cat tray about 3 ft by 2 ft but
with the bottom made of a porous membrane so that any liquid drains
through (it looks a bit like a shoe box without a lid). It's nice and
deep and sits on the soil out of the way by our oil tank in the
garden. We've filled it with a gritty builder's sand which they love
to dig in.

The cats all use it and we have no problems with them messing around
vegetables etc. For the most part, the elements take care of it and
the cat mess is degraded by the natural action of the rain and sun.
Just occasionally we take out some of the turds with an old trowel,
put them in a plastic bag and sling them in the dustbin. Job done.

I tried something similar by preparing an unused area of the garden where I
throw the mess anyway. unfortunately it isn't quite as attractive to them as
the freshly raked vegetable beds :-(

But maybe catmint or catnip around the area would help attract them to it in
the first place? Has anyone tried it for this purpose?

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
( Remove x's when replying )
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm

"Martin Sykes" wrote in message
...
"Sally Thompson" wrote in message
...
We have constructed an outside wooden cat tray about 3 ft by 2 ft but
with the bottom made of a porous membrane so that any liquid drains
through (it looks a bit like a shoe box without a lid). It's nice and
deep and sits on the soil out of the way by our oil tank in the
garden. We've filled it with a gritty builder's sand which they love
to dig in.

The cats all use it and we have no problems with them messing around
vegetables etc. For the most part, the elements take care of it and
the cat mess is degraded by the natural action of the rain and sun.
Just occasionally we take out some of the turds with an old trowel,
put them in a plastic bag and sling them in the dustbin. Job done.

I tried something similar by preparing an unused area of the garden where
I
throw the mess anyway. unfortunately it isn't quite as attractive to them
as
the freshly raked vegetable beds :-(

But maybe catmint or catnip around the area would help attract them to it
in
the first place? Has anyone tried it for this purpose?

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
( Remove x's when replying )
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm



Not sure cats would want to combine their drug beds with their toilet
facilities, imagine the horror if one such drugged up cat were to stagger,
or worse role accidently into the sand pit. They'd be cleaning themselves
for days, not that they don't anyway !

I have constructed a very simple little 3 foot high wobbly chicken wire
fence around the most ssensitive areas, veg beds etc, and the cats avoid it
like the plague. It moves, and glints and totally puts them off going near
it. It's also not strong enough to support them so if one gets brave enough
to touch it, or lean on it, they rapidly give up and leave well enough
alone. Two years of cat free veggie beds and counting, works very well for
me.

Duncan

"Martin Sykes" wrote in message
...
"Sally Thompson" wrote in message
...
We have constructed an outside wooden cat tray about 3 ft by 2 ft but
with the bottom made of a porous membrane so that any liquid drains
through (it looks a bit like a shoe box without a lid). It's nice and
deep and sits on the soil out of the way by our oil tank in the
garden. We've filled it with a gritty builder's sand which they love
to dig in.

The cats all use it and we have no problems with them messing around
vegetables etc. For the most part, the elements take care of it and
the cat mess is degraded by the natural action of the rain and sun.
Just occasionally we take out some of the turds with an old trowel,
put them in a plastic bag and sling them in the dustbin. Job done.

I tried something similar by preparing an unused area of the garden where
I
throw the mess anyway. unfortunately it isn't quite as attractive to them
as
the freshly raked vegetable beds :-(

But maybe catmint or catnip around the area would help attract them to it
in
the first place? Has anyone tried it for this purpose?

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
( Remove x's when replying )
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm



Not sure cats would want to combine their drug beds with their toilet
facilities, imagine the horror if one such drugged up cat were to stagger,
or worse role accidently into the sand pit. They'd be cleaning themselves
for days, not that they don't anyway !

I have constructed a very simple little 3 foot high wobbly chicken wire
fence around the most ssensitive areas, veg beds etc, and the cats avoid it
like the plague. It moves, and glints and totally puts them off going near
it. It's also not strong enough to support them so if one gets brave enough
to touch it, or lean on it, they rapidly give up and leave well enough
alone. Two years of cat free veggie beds and counting, works very well for
me.

Duncan

"Martin Sykes" wrote in message
...
"Sally Thompson" wrote in message
...
We have constructed an outside wooden cat tray about 3 ft by 2 ft but
with the bottom made of a porous membrane so that any liquid drains
through (it looks a bit like a shoe box without a lid). It's nice and
deep and sits on the soil out of the way by our oil tank in the
garden. We've filled it with a gritty builder's sand which they love
to dig in.

The cats all use it and we have no problems with them messing around
vegetables etc. For the most part, the elements take care of it and
the cat mess is degraded by the natural action of the rain and sun.
Just occasionally we take out some of the turds with an old trowel,
put them in a plastic bag and sling them in the dustbin. Job done.

I tried something similar by preparing an unused area of the garden where
I
throw the mess anyway. unfortunately it isn't quite as attractive to them
as
the freshly raked vegetable beds :-(

But maybe catmint or catnip around the area would help attract them to it
in
the first place? Has anyone tried it for this purpose?

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
( Remove x's when replying )
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm



Not sure cats would want to combine their drug beds with their toilet
facilities, imagine the horror if one such drugged up cat were to stagger,
or worse role accidently into the sand pit. They'd be cleaning themselves
for days, not that they don't anyway !

I have constructed a very simple little 3 foot high wobbly chicken wire
fence around the most ssensitive areas, veg beds etc, and the cats avoid it
like the plague. It moves, and glints and totally puts them off going near
it. It's also not strong enough to support them so if one gets brave enough
to touch it, or lean on it, they rapidly give up and leave well enough
alone. Two years of cat free veggie beds and counting, works very well for
me.

Duncan

"Martin Sykes" wrote in message
...
"Sally Thompson" wrote in message
...
We have constructed an outside wooden cat tray about 3 ft by 2 ft but
with the bottom made of a porous membrane so that any liquid drains
through (it looks a bit like a shoe box without a lid). It's nice and
deep and sits on the soil out of the way by our oil tank in the
garden. We've filled it with a gritty builder's sand which they love
to dig in.

The cats all use it and we have no problems with them messing around
vegetables etc. For the most part, the elements take care of it and
the cat mess is degraded by the natural action of the rain and sun.
Just occasionally we take out some of the turds with an old trowel,
put them in a plastic bag and sling them in the dustbin. Job done.

I tried something similar by preparing an unused area of the garden where
I
throw the mess anyway. unfortunately it isn't quite as attractive to them
as
the freshly raked vegetable beds :-(

But maybe catmint or catnip around the area would help attract them to it
in
the first place? Has anyone tried it for this purpose?

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
( Remove x's when replying )
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm



Not sure cats would want to combine their drug beds with their toilet
facilities, imagine the horror if one such drugged up cat were to stagger,
or worse role accidently into the sand pit. They'd be cleaning themselves
for days, not that they don't anyway !

I have constructed a very simple little 3 foot high wobbly chicken wire
fence around the most ssensitive areas, veg beds etc, and the cats avoid it
like the plague. It moves, and glints and totally puts them off going near
it. It's also not strong enough to support them so if one gets brave enough
to touch it, or lean on it, they rapidly give up and leave well enough
alone. Two years of cat free veggie beds and counting, works very well for
me.

Duncan

"Martin Sykes" wrote in message
...
"Sally Thompson" wrote in message
...
We have constructed an outside wooden cat tray about 3 ft by 2 ft but
with the bottom made of a porous membrane so that any liquid drains
through (it looks a bit like a shoe box without a lid). It's nice and
deep and sits on the soil out of the way by our oil tank in the
garden. We've filled it with a gritty builder's sand which they love
to dig in.

The cats all use it and we have no problems with them messing around
vegetables etc. For the most part, the elements take care of it and
the cat mess is degraded by the natural action of the rain and sun.
Just occasionally we take out some of the turds with an old trowel,
put them in a plastic bag and sling them in the dustbin. Job done.

I tried something similar by preparing an unused area of the garden where
I
throw the mess anyway. unfortunately it isn't quite as attractive to them
as
the freshly raked vegetable beds :-(

But maybe catmint or catnip around the area would help attract them to it
in
the first place? Has anyone tried it for this purpose?

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
( Remove x's when replying )
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm



Not sure cats would want to combine their drug beds with their toilet
facilities, imagine the horror if one such drugged up cat were to stagger,
or worse role accidently into the sand pit. They'd be cleaning themselves
for days, not that they don't anyway !

I have constructed a very simple little 3 foot high wobbly chicken wire
fence around the most ssensitive areas, veg beds etc, and the cats avoid it
like the plague. It moves, and glints and totally puts them off going near
it. It's also not strong enough to support them so if one gets brave enough
to touch it, or lean on it, they rapidly give up and leave well enough
alone. Two years of cat free veggie beds and counting, works very well for
me.

Duncan

"D Russell" wrote in message
...
"Martin Sykes" wrote in message
...
But maybe catmint or catnip around the area would help attract them to
it
in
the first place? Has anyone tried it for this purpose?


Not sure cats would want to combine their drug beds with their toilet
facilities, imagine the horror if one such drugged up cat were to stagger,
or worse role accidently into the sand pit. They'd be cleaning themselves
for days, not that they don't anyway !


Just a thought, is there such a thing as anti-cat nip or anti-cat mint ie.
something which cats hate? It could be useful as companion planting round
the veg...

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
( Remove x's when replying )
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm

"D Russell" wrote in message
...
"Martin Sykes" wrote in message
...
But maybe catmint or catnip around the area would help attract them to
it
in
the first place? Has anyone tried it for this purpose?


Not sure cats would want to combine their drug beds with their toilet
facilities, imagine the horror if one such drugged up cat were to stagger,
or worse role accidently into the sand pit. They'd be cleaning themselves
for days, not that they don't anyway !


Just a thought, is there such a thing as anti-cat nip or anti-cat mint ie.
something which cats hate? It could be useful as companion planting round
the veg...

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
( Remove x's when replying )
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm

"D Russell" wrote in message
...
"Martin Sykes" wrote in message
...
But maybe catmint or catnip around the area would help attract them to
it
in
the first place? Has anyone tried it for this purpose?


Not sure cats would want to combine their drug beds with their toilet
facilities, imagine the horror if one such drugged up cat were to stagger,
or worse role accidently into the sand pit. They'd be cleaning themselves
for days, not that they don't anyway !


Just a thought, is there such a thing as anti-cat nip or anti-cat mint ie.
something which cats hate? It could be useful as companion planting round
the veg...

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
( Remove x's when replying )
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm

Well, did a search and came up with coleus canina:

http://plants.thompson-morgan.com/uk/product/2131/1

Has anyone tried it?

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
( Remove x's when replying )
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm

"Martin Sykes" wrote in message
...
"D Russell" wrote in message
...
"Martin Sykes" wrote in
message
...
But maybe catmint or catnip around the area would help attract them to
it
in
the first place? Has anyone tried it for this purpose?


Not sure cats would want to combine their drug beds with their toilet
facilities, imagine the horror if one such drugged up cat were to
stagger,
or worse role accidently into the sand pit. They'd be cleaning
themselves
for days, not that they don't anyway !


Just a thought, is there such a thing as anti-cat nip or anti-cat mint
ie.
something which cats hate? It could be useful as companion planting round
the veg...

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
( Remove x's when replying )
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm

Well, did a search and came up with coleus canina:

http://plants.thompson-morgan.com/uk/product/2131/1

Has anyone tried it?

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
( Remove x's when replying )
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm

"Martin Sykes" wrote in message
...
"D Russell" wrote in message
...
"Martin Sykes" wrote in
message
...
But maybe catmint or catnip around the area would help attract them to
it
in
the first place? Has anyone tried it for this purpose?


Not sure cats would want to combine their drug beds with their toilet
facilities, imagine the horror if one such drugged up cat were to
stagger,
or worse role accidently into the sand pit. They'd be cleaning
themselves
for days, not that they don't anyway !


Just a thought, is there such a thing as anti-cat nip or anti-cat mint
ie.
something which cats hate? It could be useful as companion planting round
the veg...

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
( Remove x's when replying )
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm

Well, did a search and came up with coleus canina:

http://plants.thompson-morgan.com/uk/product/2131/1

Has anyone tried it?

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
( Remove x's when replying )
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm

"Martin Sykes" wrote in message
...
"D Russell" wrote in message
...
"Martin Sykes" wrote in
message
...
But maybe catmint or catnip around the area would help attract them to
it
in
the first place? Has anyone tried it for this purpose?


Not sure cats would want to combine their drug beds with their toilet
facilities, imagine the horror if one such drugged up cat were to
stagger,
or worse role accidently into the sand pit. They'd be cleaning
themselves
for days, not that they don't anyway !


Just a thought, is there such a thing as anti-cat nip or anti-cat mint
ie.
something which cats hate? It could be useful as companion planting round
the veg...

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
( Remove x's when replying )
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm

"D Russell" wrote in message
...
"Martin Sykes" wrote in message
...
But maybe catmint or catnip around the area would help attract them to
it
in
the first place? Has anyone tried it for this purpose?


Not sure cats would want to combine their drug beds with their toilet
facilities, imagine the horror if one such drugged up cat were to stagger,
or worse role accidently into the sand pit. They'd be cleaning themselves
for days, not that they don't anyway !


Just a thought, is there such a thing as anti-cat nip or anti-cat mint ie.
something which cats hate? It could be useful as companion planting round
the veg...

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
( Remove x's when replying )
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm