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Hello,
Has anyone had experience growing pineapples in the uk? In the garden centre it said that although they are the commercial variety, it does not get hot enough to ripen them here and they should be grown for ornament only. Would a greenhouse not get hot enough? What temperature do they need. Thanks. |
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When the British Isles migrate to the Tropic of Cancer, you will be able to
grow Pineapples there just like they do in Hawaii, Captain Cook. How hot do you think it gets in Hawaii? wrote in message ... Hello, Has anyone had experience growing pineapples in the uk? In the garden centre it said that although they are the commercial variety, it does not get hot enough to ripen them here and they should be grown for ornament only. Would a greenhouse not get hot enough? What temperature do they need. Thanks. |
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On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 21:38:35 GMT, "Cereus-validus"
wrote: When the British Isles migrate to the Tropic of Cancer, you will be able to grow Pineapples there just like they do in Hawaii, Captain Cook. How hot do you think it gets in Hawaii? 32-33 DegC |
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Have never been involved with their growth personally in the UK. The
Victorians' 'big houses' grew them to maturity in 'hot frames' and these have been restored and are working at The Lost Gardens of Heligan in Cornwall.The heat generated has to be greater than in a greenhouse~~so I understand. Best Wishes "Cereus-validus" wrote in message ... When the British Isles migrate to the Tropic of Cancer, you will be able to grow Pineapples there just like they do in Hawaii, Captain Cook. How hot do you think it gets in Hawaii? wrote in message ... Hello, Has anyone had experience growing pineapples in the uk? In the garden centre it said that although they are the commercial variety, it does not get hot enough to ripen them here and they should be grown for ornament only. Would a greenhouse not get hot enough? What temperature do they need. Thanks. |
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wrote in message ... Hello, Has anyone had experience growing pineapples in the uk? In the garden centre it said that although they are the commercial variety, it does not get hot enough to ripen them here and they should be grown for ornament only. Would a greenhouse not get hot enough? What temperature do they need. Thanks. Not only would it not be hot enough for most of the year but AFAICR from a tour round a plantation in hawaii a few years ago, they take 2 years to come to maturity, so youd need to keep the greenhouse heated very well (~25 deg C at least, maybe 30?) over 2 autums, winters and springs. I also imagine you wouldnt get enough light here. -- Tumbleweed Remove my socks for email address |
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:16:24 +0100, Sacha
wrote: /4/04 9:14 Hello, Has anyone had experience growing pineapples in the uk? In the garden centre it said that although they are the commercial variety, it does not get hot enough to ripen them here and they should be grown for ornament only. Would a greenhouse not get hot enough? What temperature do they need. Thanks. I think the ones that were grown in the gardens of great houses years ago, were grown in frames which I seem to remember learning were heated by the use of copious amounts of rotting manure. The were heated by vast boilers that minions stoked day and night for sod all. Of course, those were the days when everyone kept horses, so..... and minions lived in a shoe box in the gutter. |
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wrote in message
... Hello, Has anyone had experience growing pineapples in the uk? In the garden centre it said that although they are the commercial variety, it does not get hot enough to ripen them here and they should be grown for ornament only. Would a greenhouse not get hot enough? What temperature do they need. Thanks. Well I have a 5 year old pineapple grown from the top of a supermarket bought fruit, it's still growing strongly, and I keep my fingers crossed that it will do something eventually. Bob Flowerdew has grown pineapples in this country, inside a polytunnel, in a specially heated house I think. Anyway, what I have constructed is a small, was 18" cube of plastic sheeting on a frame, I had to up this to a 2 foot cube last autumn. This then sits inside the greenhouse, and has already this year reached, well over 100 degrees. The real problem as I see it is keeping the light levels up high enough. Duncan |
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The heating used in the frames does only seem to be/have been horse manure
and seemingly with little real headroom unless further frames can be positioned on top as needed. The old workers' hovels are now changing hands in excess of £200,000 a time and delightfully modernised but not greatly extended. Best Wishes. "martin" wrote in message ... On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:16:24 +0100, Sacha wrote: /4/04 9:14 Hello, Has anyone had experience growing pineapples in the uk? In the garden centre it said that although they are the commercial variety, it does not get hot enough to ripen them here and they should be grown for ornament only. Would a greenhouse not get hot enough? What temperature do they need. Thanks. I think the ones that were grown in the gardens of great houses years ago, were grown in frames which I seem to remember learning were heated by the use of copious amounts of rotting manure. The were heated by vast boilers that minions stoked day and night for sod all. Of course, those were the days when everyone kept horses, so..... and minions lived in a shoe box in the gutter. |
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"D Russell" wrote in message
Has anyone had experience growing pineapples in the uk? In the garden centre it said that although they are the commercial variety, it does not get hot enough to ripen them here and they should be grown for ornament only. Would a greenhouse not get hot enough? What temperature do they need. Well I have a 5 year old pineapple grown from the top of a supermarket bought fruit, it's still growing strongly, and I keep my fingers crossed that it will do something eventually. Me likewise! They're easy to grow from the tops of the fruit, but take a few months to get going. Most of the original leaves from the 'crown' will shrivel and die. I have two pineapple plants. One is from a Queen pineapple (the very small ones that taste great but are expensive, with serrated leaves). The big one is two years old and now has leaves two/three feet long with wicked spikes on the end All I do is move it from outdoors to indoors for the winter, then back out again. It hasn't gone out yet this year. While indoors it sits beside a sunny window. While outdoors I don't give it any special protection except bringing it in if the weather's windy, cold and wet. Normal rain and cool summer nights don't seem to bother it. It hasn't flowered yet. I read somewhere that the flowering process needs initiation using ethene gas (e.g. from ripe apples). This may be a way around the lack of heat and light. Nick H. (Surrey). |
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:58:38 +0100, "D Russell"
wrote: Bob Flowerdew has grown pineapples in this country, inside a polytunnel, in a specially heated house I think. Anyway, what I have constructed is a small, was 18" cube of plastic sheeting on a frame, I had to up this to a 2 foot cube last autumn. This then sits inside the greenhouse, and has already this year reached, well over 100 degrees. The real problem as I see it is keeping the light levels up high enough. Thanks for the replies; there does not seem to be a consensus of opinion, but I'll be optimistic and hope for success. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. What's the worst that can happen? I bought a green pineapple from the garden centre, and I have only recently bought the greenhouse, but already it (the pineapple, not the green house) is beginning to turn yellow. The weather this week has saved me a large watering bill, but has kept the greenhouse shaded and cool. I will follow your advice and try to grow within polythene inside the greenhouse for double the effect. Thanks again. |
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26/4/04 9:14
Hello, Has anyone had experience growing pineapples in the uk? In the garden centre it said that although they are the commercial variety, it does not get hot enough to ripen them here and they should be grown for ornament only. Would a greenhouse not get hot enough? What temperature do they need. Thanks. I think the ones that were grown in the gardens of great houses years ago, were grown in frames which I seem to remember learning were heated by the use of copious amounts of rotting manure. Of course, those were the days when everyone kept horses, so..... Here's the Heligan site and they may be able to help you: http://www.heligan.com/home/home.html I'm wondering if your gc was in fact selling -- Sacha (remove the weeds to email me) |
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