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Where *does* basil come from?
Someone pointed out recently that Basil isn't Mediterranean in origin,
but tropical. This explains a lot - especially about why it's pretty hard to grow outdoors here. I'm just curious - from what country does it originate? Lazarus -- Remover the rock from the email address |
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Where *does* basil come from?
Torquay?
-- Rhiannon http://www.livejournal.com/users/rhiannon_s/ "The trick is to commit crimes so confusing that police feel too stupid to even write a crime report about them." Aubrey on remaining at liberty www.somethingpositive.net |
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Where *does* basil come from?
In article , Lazarus Cooke writes: | Someone pointed out recently that Basil isn't Mediterranean in origin, | but tropical. This explains a lot - especially about why it's pretty | hard to grow outdoors here. | | I'm just curious - from what country does it originate? Dunno. Tropical asia, somewhere, but it has been cultivated for so long that quite likely nobody knows. There are lots of plants like that. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Where *does* basil come from?
India or the Middle East.
"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message om... Someone pointed out recently that Basil isn't Mediterranean in origin, but tropical. This explains a lot - especially about why it's pretty hard to grow outdoors here. I'm just curious - from what country does it originate? Lazarus -- Remover the rock from the email address |
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Where *does* basil come from?
Hmm. Ive found two references to "basil originally comes from" in
Google. One says Africa http://www.essential-oil.org/shop/item19070.htm the other says India and the Far East http://www.edenproject.com/3473_134.htm The plot thickens! Lazarus. ps. Then of course maybe it is Torquay. Seems a good place to come from. -- Remover the rock from the email address |
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Where *does* basil come from?
Just say you don't know, Nick, and don't speak for others.
If you did any actual research on basil, you would find that it is considered to have been brought from India or the Middle East where allied Ocimum species are also found. "Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ... In article , Lazarus Cooke writes: | Someone pointed out recently that Basil isn't Mediterranean in origin, | but tropical. This explains a lot - especially about why it's pretty | hard to grow outdoors here. | | I'm just curious - from what country does it originate? Dunno. Tropical asia, somewhere, but it has been cultivated for so long that quite likely nobody knows. There are lots of plants like that. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Where *does* basil come from?
On 29 Apr 2004 13:59:31 GMT, emon (Rhiannon S)
wrote: Torquay? SMACK meester Fawlty ... |
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Where *does* basil come from?
ubject: Where *does* basil come from?
From: martin Date: 29/04/2004 15:32 GMT Daylight Time Message-id: On 29 Apr 2004 13:59:31 GMT, emon (Rhiannon S) wrote: Torquay? SMACK meester Fawlty ... I'm so sorry, he's from Barcelona you know... IGMC -- Rhiannon http://www.livejournal.com/users/rhiannon_s/ "The trick is to commit crimes so confusing that police feel too stupid to even write a crime report about them." Aubrey on remaining at liberty www.somethingpositive.net |
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Where *does* basil come from?
Lazarus Cooke wrote:
Someone pointed out recently that Basil isn't Mediterranean in origin, but tropical. This explains a lot - especially about why it's pretty hard to grow outdoors here. I used to grow it outside in Southern New Zealand as an annual in the summer. Nothing special, in crappy soil in the herb garden next to the oreganum and in front of the thyme. Nothing tropical needed, if I'd tried to do the same in sub tropical Auckland it would have been eaten by half a dozen species of invertebrates in only a few hours. Peter -- Add my middle initial to email me. It has become attached to a country |
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Where *does* basil come from?
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Peter Ashby wrote: Lazarus Cooke wrote: Someone pointed out recently that Basil isn't Mediterranean in origin, but tropical. This explains a lot - especially about why it's pretty hard to grow outdoors here. I used to grow it outside in Southern New Zealand as an annual in the summer. Nothing special, in crappy soil in the herb garden next to the oreganum and in front of the thyme. Nothing tropical needed, if I'd tried to do the same in sub tropical Auckland it would have been eaten by half a dozen species of invertebrates in only a few hours. That is extremely good evidence of the fact that it is a true tropical! Basil (Ocimum basilicum) originated in tropical Asia, perhaps India, and has been cultivated for a VERY long time. The prevalence of parasites is strong evidence of an origin in a similar ecology. Also, it is a perennial in its natural habitat but, like many tropical perennials, will grow as an annual in colder climates. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Where *does* basil come from?
In article , Nick Maclaren
wrote: Basil (Ocimum basilicum) originated in tropical Asia, perhaps India, and has been cultivated for a VERY long time. The prevalence of parasites is strong evidence of an origin in a similar ecology. Also, it is a perennial in its natural habitat but, like many tropical perennials, will grow as an annual in colder climates. Thanks for this. I think it may have been you, nick who pointed out the tropical origins? But (blushes), I didn't quite get the full gist of your point about the parasites? Could you expand? ( I *think* I understand, but might be wrong, ok?) Lazarus -- Remover the rock from the email address |
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Where *does* basil come from?
In article ,
Lazarus Cooke wrote: In article , Nick Maclaren wrote: Basil (Ocimum basilicum) originated in tropical Asia, perhaps India, and has been cultivated for a VERY long time. The prevalence of parasites is strong evidence of an origin in a similar ecology. Also, it is a perennial in its natural habitat but, like many tropical perennials, will grow as an annual in colder climates. Thanks for this. I think it may have been you, nick who pointed out the tropical origins? But (blushes), I didn't quite get the full gist of your point about the parasites? Could you expand? ( I *think* I understand, but might be wrong, ok?) Generally, after a long time, organisms settle down in adaptation to their environment, and that includes their relationships to parasites. Thus a sign of an ancient parasite is that it does not kill or even seriously debilitate its host - though things aren't quite that simple. Equally, a sign that an organism is not in its natural environment is often that it is NOT attacked by parasites or (occasionally) that it is attacked and killed by them. The latter is more often indicative of a parasite that has been introduced from elsewhere, of course. Take a look at wild plants and/or weeds, and you will see that they normally have low levels of parasitism - rust on weeds is an obvious example in late summer - but they don't seem to be seriously harmed. That is USUALLY evidence that they have evolved together. One of the main reasons that prickly pear became a pest in Australia was that it had no parasites in that environment; the solution was to introduce one :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Where *does* basil come from?
Nick Maclaren wrote:
One of the main reasons that prickly pear became a pest in Australia was that it had no parasites in that environment; the solution was to introduce one :-) Similarly gorse in New Zealand, they introduced the gorse pod weevil to help control it. Peter -- Add my middle initial to email me. It has become attached to a country |
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Where *does* basil come from?
Yes thanks. I see. As in common cold and, say, HIV.
Lazarus -- Remover the rock from the email address |
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Where *does* basil come from?
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Lazarus Cooke wrote: Yes thanks. I see. As in common cold and, say, HIV. Yes, precisely. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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