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Old 05-07-2004, 06:03 PM
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I've had some trouble with my neighbours wanting a new fence, but not
being able to communicate with us about it apparently. One day
(summery and hot). All our beautiful berberis shrubs (2 meters high)
were replanted in a little bit soil, digging was to much work i think,
and all the roots were shortened. They don't look well now all the
leaves are falling out and the plants are looking rather more dead
then alive. Can something be done to make them flower and grow again?

Hope someone can help out
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Old 05-07-2004, 07:03 PM
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"H. Terpstra" wrote in message om...
I've had some trouble with my neighbours wanting a new fence, but not
being able to communicate with us about it apparently. One day
(summery and hot). All our beautiful berberis shrubs (2 meters high)
were replanted in a little bit soil, digging was to much work i think,
and all the roots were shortened. They don't look well now all the
leaves are falling out and the plants are looking rather more dead
then alive. Can something be done to make them flower and grow again?

Hope someone can help out


Quite probably beyond help - I tried to move a berberis some years ago, without shortening the roots, but it failed to
survive - the leaves turned brown and all fell off.

I don't know about the law in your country, but in UK, if the berberis was entirely on your own property, then you could
go to court and claim compensation from your neighbour, so that you could buy replacement plants. (Indeed, they even may
have performed criminal damage to your property.)

Bevan


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Old 06-07-2004, 12:04 AM
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I've had some trouble with my neighbours wanting a new fence, but not
being able to communicate with us about it apparently. One day
(summery and hot). All our beautiful berberis shrubs (2 meters high)
were replanted in a little bit soil, digging was to much work i think,
and all the roots were shortened. They don't look well now all the
leaves are falling out and the plants are looking rather more dead
then alive. Can something be done to make them flower and grow again?

Hope someone can help out


I moved a Berberis earlier this year. But I did it before the thing came to
life so ithad a little time to get established during the damper spring
weather. The thing looks the same now as it did last year.

Do all the things that you do for a newly planted hedge, and your weakened
bushes may recover.

Shorten the existing stems by up to half to reduce the water loss through
the leaves. Apply a thick mulch to preserve moisture in the ground. Water
the bushes frequently to give them a chance.

Now if the bushes have only just been moved ie in the last week, I would ..

take them up
thoroughly soak the roots - a couple of hours
prepare the site
do not let the roots dry out while you are working
trim the larger roots to encourage root growth
leave as many of the fine roots in place these are the ones that will absorb
moisture / nutrients
replant incorporating lots of organic matter.
mulch heavily
water frequently
visit a religious establishment (optional)

Out of interest - were your Berberis planted right down the border line?

Good luck


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"H. Terpstra" wrote in message
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I've had some trouble with my neighbours wanting a new fence, but not
being able to communicate with us about it apparently. One day
(summery and hot). All our beautiful berberis shrubs (2 meters high)
were replanted in a little bit soil, digging was to much work i think,
and all the roots were shortened. They don't look well now all the
leaves are falling out and the plants are looking rather more dead
then alive. Can something be done to make them flower and grow again?

Hope someone can help out


I moved a Berberis earlier this year. But I did it before the thing came to
life so ithad a little time to get established during the damper spring
weather. The thing looks the same now as it did last year.

Do all the things that you do for a newly planted hedge, and your weakened
bushes may recover.

Shorten the existing stems by up to half to reduce the water loss through
the leaves. Apply a thick mulch to preserve moisture in the ground. Water
the bushes frequently to give them a chance.

Now if the bushes have only just been moved ie in the last week, I would ..

take them up
thoroughly soak the roots - a couple of hours
prepare the site
do not let the roots dry out while you are working
trim the larger roots to encourage root growth
leave as many of the fine roots in place these are the ones that will absorb
moisture / nutrients
replant incorporating lots of organic matter.
mulch heavily
water frequently
visit a religious establishment (optional)

Out of interest - were your Berberis planted right down the border line?

Good luck



Thanks for the suggestions, i will try them out. And hope and prey for
the best.

The berberis was planted against the old fence of our neighbours, but
they both stood on the 20 cm of borderline between our gardens, in my
opinion when i look at the placing of the new fence, they could have
left all the berberis in place because their new fence was put up in
the same place.

We have talked to one of our neighbours and he told us that he would
buy new ones if these died.
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"H. Terpstra" wrote in message
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"Aardvark" wrote in message

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"H. Terpstra" wrote in message
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I've had some trouble with my neighbours wanting a new fence, but not
being able to communicate with us about it apparently. One day
(summery and hot). All our beautiful berberis shrubs (2 meters high)
were replanted in a little bit soil, digging was to much work i think,
and all the roots were shortened. They don't look well now all the
leaves are falling out and the plants are looking rather more dead
then alive. Can something be done to make them flower and grow again?

Hope someone can help out


I moved a Berberis earlier this year. But I did it before the thing

came to
life so ithad a little time to get established during the damper spring
weather. The thing looks the same now as it did last year.

Do all the things that you do for a newly planted hedge, and your

weakened
bushes may recover.

Shorten the existing stems by up to half to reduce the water loss

through
the leaves. Apply a thick mulch to preserve moisture in the ground.

Water
the bushes frequently to give them a chance.

Now if the bushes have only just been moved ie in the last week, I would

...

take them up
thoroughly soak the roots - a couple of hours
prepare the site
do not let the roots dry out while you are working
trim the larger roots to encourage root growth
leave as many of the fine roots in place these are the ones that will

absorb
moisture / nutrients
replant incorporating lots of organic matter.
mulch heavily
water frequently
visit a religious establishment (optional)

Out of interest - were your Berberis planted right down the border line?

Good luck



Thanks for the suggestions, i will try them out. And hope and prey for
the best.

The berberis was planted against the old fence of our neighbours, but
they both stood on the 20 cm of borderline between our gardens, in my
opinion when i look at the placing of the new fence, they could have
left all the berberis in place because their new fence was put up in
the same place.

We have talked to one of our neighbours and he told us that he would
buy new ones if these died.


******
When, or if he does, plant them properly next time. Identify without error
the border line between your property and the neighbour's property. then
estimate the expected width to which a mature berberis will grow (yes, - I
know you grow them against the fence... but..) plant the roots with the
stalks just a little over half that measurement, - to be on the safe side of
things, - on your side.
The neighbours were outwith the law, but take my advice and don't upset
them. If they are friendly you are lucky.
When I came into our present house 46 years ago the fences were little
concrete posts and two wires through them.. All neighbours called to each
other over the wires and chatted and shared cups of tea etc. .
The new generations have grown up and the fences are now, - after three
generations - concrete blocks six feet high and when I look sideways right
and left, up and down it looks like a military camtonment in Jellalabad or
Naini Tal in the Himalaya khuds where on the hour through the night or when
they hear anyone passing outside they give warning of their alertness with
their loud rasping throaty cough, " Co-Haw!!" which means "Sub admee idder
t'heak hai!" (All persons here are alert , all present and correct, , so
watch out any intruders!!"
Also it is a gentle hint to their Sahib employers that they are trustworthy
Watchmen who take their avocation seriously and have not deserted their
posts..
I should never have left. After all those years we now have a thug family
moved in next door and only the new Harassment Law has saved our sanity.
Doug.




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In article ,
Douglas wrote:


I should never have left. After all those years we now have a thug family
moved in next door and only the new Harassment Law has saved our sanity.


Genuine Thugs? Or merely pale imitations :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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"H. Terpstra" wrote in message
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"Aardvark" wrote in message

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"H. Terpstra" wrote in message
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I've had some trouble with my neighbours wanting a new fence, but not
being able to communicate with us about it apparently. One day
(summery and hot). All our beautiful berberis shrubs (2 meters high)
were replanted in a little bit soil, digging was to much work i think,
and all the roots were shortened. They don't look well now all the
leaves are falling out and the plants are looking rather more dead
then alive. Can something be done to make them flower and grow again?

Hope someone can help out


I moved a Berberis earlier this year. But I did it before the thing

came to
life so ithad a little time to get established during the damper spring
weather. The thing looks the same now as it did last year.

Do all the things that you do for a newly planted hedge, and your

weakened
bushes may recover.

Shorten the existing stems by up to half to reduce the water loss

through
the leaves. Apply a thick mulch to preserve moisture in the ground.

Water
the bushes frequently to give them a chance.

Now if the bushes have only just been moved ie in the last week, I would

...

take them up
thoroughly soak the roots - a couple of hours
prepare the site
do not let the roots dry out while you are working
trim the larger roots to encourage root growth
leave as many of the fine roots in place these are the ones that will

absorb
moisture / nutrients
replant incorporating lots of organic matter.
mulch heavily
water frequently
visit a religious establishment (optional)

Out of interest - were your Berberis planted right down the border line?

Good luck



Thanks for the suggestions, i will try them out. And hope and prey for
the best.

The berberis was planted against the old fence of our neighbours, but
they both stood on the 20 cm of borderline between our gardens, in my
opinion when i look at the placing of the new fence, they could have
left all the berberis in place because their new fence was put up in
the same place.

We have talked to one of our neighbours and he told us that he would
buy new ones if these died.


_____________
This would probably be your best option. Were many plants involved?
It is good to see that the neighbour has taken responsibility.
Best Wishes Brian.


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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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In article ,
Douglas wrote:


I should never have left. After all those years we now have a thug

family
moved in next door and only the new Harassment Law has saved our sanity.


Genuine Thugs? Or merely pale imitations :-)
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


******

A very interesting question, Nick!:
Two hundred years ago we, "The Raj", outlawed Suttee and the Thuggee
tribes in the Indian Continent.
This year, 2004, our Government outlawed Personal Harassment and introduced
Noise Abatement Laws.
Two laws which have transformed life in this, our Country just as it did
about two hundred years ago in India as mentioned.
Doug.

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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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In article ,
Douglas wrote:


I should never have left. After all those years we now have a thug

family
moved in next door and only the new Harassment Law has saved our sanity.


Genuine Thugs? Or merely pale imitations :-)
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


******

A very interesting question, Nick!:
Two hundred years ago we, "The Raj", outlawed Suttee and the Thuggee
tribes in the Indian Continent.
This year, 2004, our Government outlawed Personal Harassment and introduced
Noise Abatement Laws.
Two laws which have transformed life in this, our Country just as it did
about two hundred years ago in India as mentioned.
Doug.

******


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