On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:01:53 +0100, "GwG" wrote:

If so, why not name the preservative, instead of vaguely referring to it
as "One of the wood preservative agents mentioned in an earlier posting"
I have read somewhere that certain forms of creosote are harmful, but I
think those forms of creosote are harmful, no matter how they are
applied, so they probably should not be used anyway.
Am I being ignorant of the law regarding the spraying of preservatives
on fences, or does the law specifically refer to the spraying of toxic
substances on fences?

Hi,

All preservatives will have a 'COSHH/MHDS' sheet available from the
manufacturers which will give precautions for application and use.

Also bear in mind creosote type stuff stinks like crazy, and might not
make your garden a more pleasant environment, or endear you to your
neighbours. It's probably overkill for a fence, there are better
alternatives available.

cheers,
Pete.

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Pete C writes:
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| Also bear in mind creosote type stuff stinks like crazy, and might not
| make your garden a more pleasant environment, or endear you to your
| neighbours. It's probably overkill for a fence, there are better
| alternatives available.

Like what? Creosote works, BECAUSE it is nasty. Most of the others
are fairly useless as preservatives, though they come in pretty
colours.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Pete C writes:

Also bear in mind creosote type stuff stinks like crazy, and might
not make your garden a more pleasant environment, or endear you to
your neighbours. It's probably overkill for a fence, there are
better alternatives available.

Like what? Creosote works, BECAUSE it is nasty. Most of the others
are fairly useless as preservatives, though they come in pretty
colours.


I know this link is for Solihul, but it is a countrywide law and this site
explains it quite well.
http://www.solihull.gov.uk/wwwce/asp...cle.asp?id=349

In article ,
Jackie Green . uk wrote:
Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Pete C writes:

Also bear in mind creosote type stuff stinks like crazy, and might
not make your garden a more pleasant environment, or endear you to
your neighbours. It's probably overkill for a fence, there are
better alternatives available.

Like what? Creosote works, BECAUSE it is nasty. Most of the others
are fairly useless as preservatives, though they come in pretty
colours.

I know this link is for Solihul, but it is a countrywide law and this site
explains it quite well.
http://www.solihull.gov.uk/wwwce/asp...cle.asp?id=349

That figures. "Domestic use isn't a serious problem, so we are making
it illegal." Typical of those idiots.

But that wasn't the point. I queried the statement that there were
better products available. Most of the gimmicky ones encouraged for
domestic use will colour the wood, and do little else.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 19 Aug 2004 16:30:02 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:


In article ,
Pete C writes:
|
| Also bear in mind creosote type stuff stinks like crazy, and might not
| make your garden a more pleasant environment, or endear you to your
| neighbours. It's probably overkill for a fence, there are better
| alternatives available.

Like what? Creosote works, BECAUSE it is nasty. Most of the others
are fairly useless as preservatives, though they come in pretty
colours.
Hi,

Something based on copper napthanate, aceypetacs zinc/copper,
permethrin, among others, take your pick.

Still, they're all a bit OTT for fence panels in a normal application,
all that is needed is something with a wax based water repellant and a
biocide.

cheers,
Pete.

In article ,
Pete C wrote:
|
| Also bear in mind creosote type stuff stinks like crazy, and might not
| make your garden a more pleasant environment, or endear you to your
| neighbours. It's probably overkill for a fence, there are better
| alternatives available.

Like what? Creosote works, BECAUSE it is nasty. Most of the others
are fairly useless as preservatives, though they come in pretty
colours.

Something based on copper napthanate, aceypetacs zinc/copper,
permethrin, among others, take your pick.

All right. They work, and they are all equally nasty, in different
ways. One advantage of creosote is that it is fairly harmless to
the wider environment, though extremely nasty to the local one.
I do not subscribe to the carcinogenesis fetish - that is a creation
of the tabloids and their dependent politicians.

I don't know how well they work relative to creosote, but have heard
that their effect is more-or-less pro rata to their nastiness.

Still, they're all a bit OTT for fence panels in a normal application,
all that is needed is something with a wax based water repellant and a
biocide.

Which does almost nothing to protect the fence against the normal
causes of rot. Not even in an area as dry as this one. If you
can ensure that fence panels do not remain damp for very long,
even untreated softwood lasts fairly well. The problem is stopping
fungal attack (mainly wet rot) in wood that is damp for long
periods.

Those so-called preservatives are the ones I was referring to as
coming in pretty colours.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.