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Old 26-08-2004, 08:48 PM
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In article , Franz Heymann

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It would be unwise for a pragmatist like me to say yes or no to

such a
possible false generalisation.
There are circumstances where I would be prepared to participate in
the eradication of some species in certain places for the sake of
humans, or domesticated animals, for example

Prickly pears for the sake of grazing field
The common cold virus
Malaria-carrying mosquitoes
Bracken in the Lake District
Hedgehogs in N Uist and Benbecula
Cats on Marion Island

Well, out of that lot, nos 1, 5 and 6 could be regarded as putting
things right after introduction of species to places where they

don't
belong,

What do you mean by 'places where they don't belong'?

They didn't get there without human intervention.


Whether it "didnt belong there' is a human value judgement. Had, in
pre-human times, a chance event carried prickly pear seed to Oz, and it

had
become established, presumably you'd now be saying it did 'belong there'?


It wouldn't have arrived there as a result of human activity. OK, you
can say that it's irrelevant which species brought it there - whether it
came on a duck's foot or in a human's hand baggage, for example, but
what this discussion is leading me to believe is that there is a
quantitative difference between us and other species - we do things more
purposefully and on a larger scale, and therefore have a larger effect.

Had Opuntia arrived in Oz as chance seeds in pre-human times, they would
have established more slowly, other things would have evolved around
them. They would not have become the problem that they did.


Had Opuntia arrived in Oz as chance seeds in prehuman times, and
proliferated exponentially, you are right to say they would not have become
a problem, because there would not have been anyone on hand to perceive
their presence and their effect on that ecosystem as problems.


 
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