In article ,
Martin wrote:

Er, do you understand the difference between a terrestrial and
epiphytic orchid, and why Cymbidium is epiphytic, despite being
often/normally grown in 'soil' as a pot plant?

The BBC website calls them terrestrial

"Cymbidium: the most familiar and probably most widely cultivated
genus, with long, narrow, rich green leaves. Although they can grow in
trees, they're terrestrial orchids mainly from Thailand. The cut
flowers and blooms last for a considerable time, up to two months."

As I thought, you don't.

Please note that this is uk.rec.GARDENING, and therefore the wording
should be assumed to be horticultural usage, not botanic, where the
two differ. A little bit of research for you, to occupy your idle
hours ....


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Mike Lyle wrote:
[...]
I rescued some Early Purples from the Council's machinery once,
[...]
Let's ignore the usual remarks about the fact that what you did is
now a heinous crime.

Quite so; but had anybody tried to do me for it I'd have had my plea
in mitigation ready.

Mike.

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Martin wrote:

Er, do you understand the difference between a terrestrial and
epiphytic orchid, and why Cymbidium is epiphytic, despite being
often/normally grown in 'soil' as a pot plant?

The BBC website calls them terrestrial

"Cymbidium: the most familiar and probably most widely cultivated
genus, with long, narrow, rich green leaves. Although they can grow
in
trees, they're terrestrial orchids mainly from Thailand. The cut
flowers and blooms last for a considerable time, up to two months."

As I thought, you don't.

Please note that this is uk.rec.GARDENING, and therefore the wording
should be assumed to be horticultural usage, not botanic, where the
two differ. A little bit of research for you, to occupy your idle
hours ....

I have looked up 8 out of tens of thousands of Google finds for
"cymbidium". They are split evenly between calling cymbidiums
epiphytic and terrestrial. As best I can judge, they are reckoned to
be epiphytic in the tropics and terrestrial in the Old World.

I think Martin's quote is from a gardening article.

Franz

In article ,
Franz Heymann wrote:

I have looked up 8 out of tens of thousands of Google finds for
"cymbidium". They are split evenly between calling cymbidiums
epiphytic and terrestrial. As best I can judge, they are reckoned to
be epiphytic in the tropics and terrestrial in the Old World.

Yes and no. The commercial plants are hybrids of at least 3 species,
at least two of which can grow epiphytically - my guess is that they
can all grow either terrestrially or epiphytically. But that isn't
the point. The original context was:

Both. It applies almost entirely to the terrestrial ones, not the
epiphytes (even when they are grown in soil). The rarity is the
cause of the soil dependence, and the essential dependence is the
reason that the orchids are so hard to grow artificially.

The Dutch grow them in greenhouses 50,000 at a time.

I was pretty obviously using the terrestrial/epiphytic distinction
in the sense that separates orchids into two classes:

Hardy, obligatorily terrestrial, bulbous, decidous ones, and
their less hardy relatives.

Tender, at least facultatively epiphytic, evergreen ones. This
includes Cymbidium.

This distinction is one of the traditional horticultural ones, and
has the property that I described. Except for Cypripedium, I can't
think of ANY of the former that are ever seen on 'ordinary' garden
centres, but they (obviously) include all of our native species.

The 'correction' to my posting was nonsense, in context.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

[quote=Jane Ransom]I have a friend who has a woodland area in which she would like to
establish some 'real' bluebells ie English kind, not Spanish.
She is having difficulty getting the bulbs.
Does anyone know of a bulk supplier?
--
Jane Ransom,

I have found a really good licenced supplyer of wild english bluebell seeds. You can buy as many packets as you require on their website: www.farnellfarm.co.uk

SweetPea wrote:
:: Jane Ransom Wrote:
::: I have a friend who has a woodland area in which she would like to
::: establish some 'real' bluebells ie English kind, not Spanish.
::: She is having difficulty getting the bulbs.
::: Does anyone know of a bulk supplier?


Can nothing be done to stop this gardenbanter garbage?....this reply was to
a post from October last year, the signature seperator is broken and it was
not posted at 16:23, which is what it says on the group ....who is the
webmaster of gardenbanter?


--
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we.
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country
and our people, and neither do we."
- George W. Bush, 5.8.2004

In article , Phil L
writes
SweetPea wrote:
:: Jane Ransom Wrote:
::: I have a friend who has a woodland area in which she would like to
::: establish some 'real' bluebells ie English kind, not Spanish.
::: She is having difficulty getting the bulbs.
::: Does anyone know of a bulk supplier?


Can nothing be done to stop this gardenbanter garbage?....this reply was to
a post from October last year, the signature seperator is broken and it was
not posted at 16:23, which is what it says on the group ....who is the
webmaster of gardenbanter?


With three separate threads advertising the same supplier one begins to
wonder about the identity of 'sweet pea'
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

'With three separate threads advertising the same supplier one begins to
wonder about the identity of 'sweet pea'
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"[/quote]

Kay,

Thanks for that!!

What so if i want to tell people about a site that is different from others have suggested...do you not know of information that others don't??? Who are you to make me look like a fraud?

In article , SweetPea SweetPea.1ng0
writes

'With three separate threads advertising the same supplier one begins
to
wonder about the identity of 'sweet pea'

Thanks for that!!

What so if i want to tell people about a site that is different from
others have suggested...do you not know of information that others
don't??? Who are you to make me look like a fraud?

I haven't made you look like a fraud - you've done that yourself by
telling us about the *same* site in *three* different threads on the
*same* day, including resurrecting a thread which was dead and buried 6
months ago.

If you have been following this newsgroup for any length of time, you
will understand that we regularly have people advertising their own
sites using all sorts of devices - including answering threads in the
way you have - to disguise their status and pretend they are a satisfied
customer rather than someone with a vested interest.

I'm sorry if in this case you are just someone wanting to share a good
site. For the future - once in one day is probably enough. If someone is
reading one bluebell thread they will probably be reading the other
bluebell threads too.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"