"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 30/10/04 23:19, in article ,
"Klara" wrote:

In message , Mike Lyle
writes
Hydrangea petiolaris.

I do love ivies; but I really would strongly counsel against growing
one on a house wall.

Having just tried to remove one, I have to agree - sadly, though, as I
like them too.

Is Virginia creeper as tenacious?

Yes but it's not evergreen and neither is H. petiolaris. ;-(

Paint it, if that's so important.
--
Brian
Henry Fielding: "All Nature wears one universal grin"

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...

In my observation, there is precious little difference between
climbers when it comes to lifting tiles etc. and, with the self
clinging ones, you get a straight choice between adhesiveness and
likelihood of falling off.

Hence my comment about spoiling the job for want of a bit of trellis.

--
Brian
"Reality rarely lives up to TV, usually because reality has a smaller budget
and the opportunities for retakes are minimal."

In article , Klara
writes
In message , Mike Lyle
writes
Hydrangea petiolaris.

I do love ivies; but I really would strongly counsel against growing
one on a house wall.

Having just tried to remove one, I have to agree - sadly, though, as I
like them too.

Is Virginia creeper as tenacious?

Boston ivy (the thing that people call virginia creeper but which has
ivy shaped leaves not horse chestnut shaped leaves) is as tenacious and
grows about 12 feet in a season. I've just removed one of them as well
;-)


--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

In article , Brian Watson
writes

I wasn't trying to catch you out, merely I couldn't think of a good
alternative for ivy, and wanted to know if there was one. I have a
winter jasmine on my wall - it's not clinging, so I have to have wires
for it, and I think a good many people would find ivy more attractive.

Well, it's your wall and you seen determined to have ivy, so do.

If you'd read my post elsewhere in this thread, you'd know that I've
just removed an ivy ;-)

--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

"Kay" wrote in message
...
In article , Brian Watson
writes

I wasn't trying to catch you out, merely I couldn't think of a good
alternative for ivy, and wanted to know if there was one. I have a
winter jasmine on my wall - it's not clinging, so I have to have wires
for it, and I think a good many people would find ivy more attractive.

Well, it's your wall and you seen determined to have ivy, so do.

If you'd read my post elsewhere in this thread, you'd know that I've
just removed an ivy ;-)

Sorry, must admit I did not look upthread before posting.

As you seemed to be advocating ivies I assumed you would plant one (and then
leave it where it was planted).

--
Brian
Henry Fielding: "All Nature wears one universal grin"

In article ,
Brian Watson wrote:

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...

In my observation, there is precious little difference between
climbers when it comes to lifting tiles etc. and, with the self
clinging ones, you get a straight choice between adhesiveness and
likelihood of falling off.

Hence my comment about spoiling the job for want of a bit of trellis.

Er, no. The more vigorous twining climbers (e.g. Wisteria and most
honeysuckles) are at least as good as removing tiles as ivy.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article , Brian Watson
writes

"Kay" wrote in message
...
If you'd read my post elsewhere in this thread, you'd know that I've
just removed an ivy ;-)

Sorry, must admit I did not look upthread before posting.

As you seemed to be advocating ivies I assumed you would plant one (and then
leave it where it was planted).

I think they have their uses, as long as you realise they can be thugs.
I'm trying to think of what I hate with a similar passion as others show
for leylandii and ivy - all I can think of is calceolarias ;-)

--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

In article ,
Kay wrote:

I'm trying to think of what I hate with a similar passion as others show
for leylandii and ivy - all I can think of is calceolarias ;-)

Keep the aspidistra flying.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Kay" wrote in message
...

[snip]

I'm trying to think of what I hate with a similar passion as others
show
for leylandii and ivy - all I can think of is calceolarias ;-)

And french marigolds

Franz

"Kay" wrote in message
...

[snip]

I'm trying to think of what I hate with a similar passion as others
show
for leylandii and ivy - all I can think of is calceolarias ;-)

Surely french marigolds masquerading as rows of toy soldiers take the
cake?

Franz

Franz Heymann wrote:
"Kay" wrote in message
...

[snip]

I'm trying to think of what I hate with a similar passion as
others
show for leylandii and ivy - all I can think of is calceolarias
;-)

Surely french marigolds masquerading as rows of toy soldiers take
the
cake?

Until you said that, I was going to grit my teeth and say "Petunias".
And those municipal rows of ornamental cabbages.

Mike.

In article , Franz Heymann
writes

"Kay" wrote in message
...

[snip]

I'm trying to think of what I hate with a similar passion as others
show
for leylandii and ivy - all I can think of is calceolarias ;-)

And french marigolds

Them too!
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

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| In article , Franz Heymann
| writes
|
| "Kay" wrote in message
| ...
|
| [snip]
|
| I'm trying to think of what I hate with a similar passion as others
| show
| for leylandii and ivy - all I can think of is calceolarias ;-)
|
| And french marigolds
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| Them too!

Red-capped garden gnomes sitting astride pink piglets:-)

Regards, Barbara.