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JeffC wrote:
I'm given to unstandand the reason why the IOW and the rest of the south coast for that matter is sinking is due to the fact that the highlands of Scotland are still rising as a result of the "decompression" of the subterrain from the relief of pressure from the last ice age. So like a seesaw, the north of Britain is rising while the south of Britain is sinking. As there was me thinking it was because they ate more pies oop north. John B |
In message , Nick Maclaren
writes In article , Franz Heymann wrote: "Kay" wrote in message ... [snip] The meat has the name of the animal in the language of the conquering classes who ate it, while the animal retains the language of the conquered who grew it. At least it works for boeuf and mouton, but I'm not sure where pork comes from - the latin? - is it the modern french that has moved away? And when did you last see a piece of mutton for sale, or offered on a menu? We had some 12 days ago. It has been relegalised. Regards, Nick Maclaren. Why was it illegalised? -- hugh Reply to address is valid at the time of posting |
"JeffC" wrote in message ... I'm given to unstandand the reason why the IOW and the rest of the south coast for that matter is sinking is due to the fact that the highlands of Scotland are still rising as a result of the "decompression" of the subterrain from the relief of pressure from the last ice age. So like a seesaw, the north of Britain is rising while the south of Britain is sinking. Quick - all up to Scotland and jump up and down.... -- Brian Henry Fielding: "All Nature wears one universal grin" |
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hugh wrote: And when did you last see a piece of mutton for sale, or offered on a menu? We had some 12 days ago. It has been relegalised. Why was it illegalised? BSE. Our Lords and Masters wanted to ensure that animals were killed before they showed signs of BSE, to make it easier to claim that the country was BSE free. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article , hugh wrote: And when did you last see a piece of mutton for sale, or offered on a menu? We had some 12 days ago. It has been relegalised. Why was it illegalised? BSE. Our Lords and Masters wanted to ensure that animals were killed before they showed signs of BSE, to make it easier to claim that the country was BSE free. And the public fell for it, as usual. Somebody wrote in the Grauniad last week "Do they think we're stupid?"; I couldn't be bothered to reply, "Yes, of course they do: you swallowed all the other cons, after all." (Sorry: feeling hacked off, as my mother's in a Maggie-Tony hospital.) Mike. |
On 9/1/05 19:54, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote: In article , hugh wrote: And when did you last see a piece of mutton for sale, or offered on a menu? We had some 12 days ago. It has been relegalised. Why was it illegalised? BSE. Our Lords and Masters wanted to ensure that animals were killed before they showed signs of BSE, to make it easier to claim that the country was BSE free. For beef cattle that was before 30 months, I think. What was it for sheep, do you know? -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
"Chris Hogg" wrote in message ... On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:18:03 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" wrote: If you were to crack a book on hydrodynamics you will find that there are essentially four different types of wave in an ideal non-viscous liquid Capillary waves Surface waves Deep water waves Solitons (actually, there are also linear combinations of the first two) Capillary waves are what you get if you induce a wave by vibrating a tuning fork witih one tine just touching the liquid Surface waves are what you normally see on the surface of the ocean before they break near the shore. That includes the so-called "Giant waves". These are simply distinguished by having a very large amplitude of oscillation. In both those types of wave any "piece" of water moves vertically up and down. In the case of a deep water wave, any *piece" of water executes a circular motion, with the diameter of the circle equal to the depth of the water. Both tidal waves and tsunamis are synonyms for deep water waves. In the open ocean with a constant depth, a deep water wave is essentially harmless and may pass practically unnoticed. In the links I posted earlier (see below) and which seemed authoritative, tsunamis were described as shallow water waves, despite propagating in deep water. I assumed this meant their characteristics place them in the 'shallow water wave' category, and didn't mean they only appear in shallow water. I am now confused. I am confused as to why the first link calls them "shallow waves" The waves which I called "deep water waves" are those with a speed of sqrt(gh), and a rolling particle motion, where g is the graviational acceleration and h is the depth of the ocean floor. Why he calls the same waves shallow water waves and then produces a a calculation for the speed in a 4 km deep ocean is beyond me. Shallow water waves have, so to speak, no knowledge of the depth of the ocean. They are the ones I called surface waves. The same link also gives an incorrect impression of what is known as a tidal wave. My view of what constitutes a tidal wave is not just the normal "steady" progression of the tide, but occurs in those (few) local geographical circumstances where the tidal rise enters a constricted region in which a deep water wave can be excited. http://www.fluidmech.net/tutorials/ocean/tsunami.htm http://www.es.flinders.edu.au/%7Emat...lecture10.html It only becomes dangerous when it meets a sloping ocean floor, so that the nornal circular motion can no longer be accomodated. It is at that stage that it begins to "suck" in water ahead of it and begins to pile up in height. That would certainly fit the descriptions coming from survivors, who talked about the tide going right out very rapidly, before the crest of the wave arrived. But I also heard that it doesn't always happen this way, depending on whether a crest or a trough hits the shore first. And wouldn't this also occur with any type of wave? They all presumably have peaks and troughs. It happens to surface waves as well, as witness the usual breakers on a beach just before they break, but not to capillary waves. The latter are purely surface tension effects and are independent of water depth. Incidentally, what I call surface waves are also known as gravity waves. Solitons are peculiar beasts in which certain specifically-shaped transient surface disturbances can move unchanged in shape. Franz |
"Sacha" wrote in message k... On 8/1/05 19:18, in article , "Franz Heymann" wrote: "Kay" wrote in message ... [snip] The meat has the name of the animal in the language of the conquering classes who ate it, while the animal retains the language of the conquered who grew it. At least it works for boeuf and mouton, but I'm not sure where pork comes from - the latin? - is it the modern french that has moved away? And when did you last see a piece of mutton for sale, or offered on a menu? Franz Frequently at our butcher but not on a menu, no. All the butchers within a 30 mile radius of here sell only lamb. Franz |
On 10/1/05 11:07, in article , "Franz
Heymann" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message k... On 8/1/05 19:18, in article , "Franz Heymann" wrote: snip And when did you last see a piece of mutton for sale, or offered on a menu? Franz Frequently at our butcher but not on a menu, no. All the butchers within a 30 mile radius of here sell only lamb. Ours started either early last year, or possibly the year before - my memory! And I said I hadn't seen it on a menu but now recall that I've seen one pub serving it. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
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In article , Franz Heymann
writes All the butchers within a 30 mile radius of here sell only lamb. Beanstalk Organix at Addingham is within 30 miles of you (1) ;-) (1) As the crow flies, certainly, and possibly by road too. -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 17:36:17 +0000, griz wrote:
Does this mean that in the common use they are synonymous, Yes. ...but only tsunami is really caused by earthquakes? No. Tidal waves can also be caused by earth/seaquakes, or my not be. Similarly a tsunami (note definition "esp one caused by an earthquake") especially but not necessarily. -- Tim C. |
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On 10/1/05 9:40, in article , " wrote: Seen from a boat http://www.yachtaragorn.com/Thailand.htm This is a fascinating and moving account, Martin. Thanks very much. Seconded. On our sailing holiday in the Caribbean, our skipper used to get up and before he did anything else, run the yacht's engine *every" morning and last thing at night... "you never know when you going to need it in a hurry and it must work first time". Very sensible. |
On 11/1/05 1:28 pm, in article , "Magwitch"
wrote: Sacha muttered: On 10/1/05 9:40, in article , " wrote: Seen from a boat http://www.yachtaragorn.com/Thailand.htm This is a fascinating and moving account, Martin. Thanks very much. Seconded. On our sailing holiday in the Caribbean, our skipper used to get up and before he did anything else, run the yacht's engine *every" morning and last thing at night... "you never know when you going to need it in a hurry and it must work first time". Very sensible. That, along with the maxims of always having bigger anchors and fenders than you think you need, is one of the safety essentials. -- Sacha (remove the weeds for email) |
"Kay" wrote in message ... In article , Franz Heymann writes All the butchers within a 30 mile radius of here sell only lamb. Beanstalk Organix at Addingham is within 30 miles of you (1) ;-) (1) As the crow flies, certainly, and possibly by road too. Thanks, Kay. I will try to locate them Franz |
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