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Old 09-03-2005, 09:56 PM
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In article , huLLy
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Alan Gould wrote:

The urg charter is for guidance only, not for absolute and obligatory
compliance. No contributor is entitled to attempt enforcement of it.


The charter sets the rules by which the newsgroup is to operate and are
agreed at the time the newsgroup is set up. There are standard
procedures for changing for changing the charter.

But the charter is not, of course, enforceable. (That's not the same as
saying that there's no need to comply by it).

the only thing that can be done is to remind people of what the charter
says, and that is what Janet did. Since this group is unmoderated, then
it is up to each and every one of us to remind posters what the charter
is and what is and isn't allowed. The alternative is a free-for-all,
with the UK gardening discussion content completely lost amongst the
adverts, the conservation rants, and the non-UK gardening - which is
what would happen since the number of people gardening outside the UK
far exceeds the number gardening within the UK.


Perhaps Janet's hubby might like to bid for them, they will act very well as
an ankle restraint to keep her locked in the shed!

Nice to see a really intelligent comment in this thread.
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Kay
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Old 10-03-2005, 06:40 AM
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In article , Kay
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The urg charter is for guidance only, not for absolute and obligatory
compliance. No contributor is entitled to attempt enforcement of it.



The charter sets the rules by which the newsgroup is to operate and are
agreed at the time the newsgroup is set up. There are standard
procedures for changing for changing the charter.

But the charter is not, of course, enforceable. (That's not the same as
saying that there's no need to comply by it).

the only thing that can be done is to remind people of what the charter
says, and that is what Janet did. Since this group is unmoderated, then
it is up to each and every one of us to remind posters what the charter
is and what is and isn't allowed. The alternative is a free-for-all,
with the UK gardening discussion content completely lost amongst the
adverts, the conservation rants, and the non-UK gardening - which is
what would happen since the number of people gardening outside the UK
far exceeds the number gardening within the UK.

The topic of this usenet group is UK recreational gardening. Any
contributor can join discussions of that topic, wherever they live and
whatever nationality they have. As with most usenet groups, rogue
mailings arrive. Those a best ignored rather than given publicity.

Sometimes an on topic thread strays into off topic discussion, we have
all done that at times. At those times a little common sense and a
little tolerance are preferable to bombastic insistence on compliance.

In a similar way, our pastime of recreational gardening depends upon
commercial activity and some references to that appear in this group.
Again common sense and tolerance have usually fostered the mainly good
nature of urg discussions, without need of dictatorial censure.

Hopefully that will continue.
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Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.
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Old 10-03-2005, 07:38 AM
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without need of dictatorial censure.


:-))

well said


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Old 10-03-2005, 07:40 AM
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Janet Baraclough wrote:
The message
from Alan Gould contains these words:

The urg charter is for guidance only, not for absolute and obligatory
compliance.
No contributor is entitled to attempt enforcement of it.


You're making up your own rules as you go along....just like Phil.

Many isps Terms Of Service require their clients to obey Usenet
charter restrictions, and most reputable isps enforce compliance with
their TOS. Anyone is entitled to complain to an isp about their
client's behaviour.

Janet.


Yes, Janet

I suggest you stop reading the 'Stalinist's Guide To The Internet' and get
with the program.

A one posting on topic message has turned into a drawn out thread by a net
cop with too much time on her hands.

Cheers,
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Old 10-03-2005, 07:43 AM
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A one posting on topic message has turned into a drawn out thread by a net
cop with too much time on her hands.


well said




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Old 10-03-2005, 11:19 AM
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In article , Mike
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Thus spake nanny Barrowcloth. So off with you boy. ;-((



Is it not possible for you to change your record? It sounds as though
you have a bit of an obsession, which can't be good for you.

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Old 10-03-2005, 12:39 PM
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In article , huLLy
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I suggest you stop reading the 'Stalinist's Guide To The Internet' and get
with the program.

A one posting on topic message has turned into a drawn out thread by a net
cop with too much time on her hands.

It takes more than one person to make a thread! Janet has posted 2 posts
out of a total of 22 - I don't think you can blame the length of the
thread on her.
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Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

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