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Old 14-05-2005, 10:28 PM
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I follow a procedure which is laid down by a governmenr department

called
The Forestry Commission, if you have any problems with that procedure I
suggest instead of trying to slag people off here, you contact them and
put your concerns to them.

You are advocating drowning, which does not appear to be advocated by
the Forestry Commission in any of its currently applicable documents
referring to grey squirrel control.


What sensible/practical method do they now suggest is the way to despatch
them?

If you have read the pdf document linked to my response to Kay's message,
you will know the two methods recommended by the FC are either
administation
of a lethal blow to the head with a blunt instrument, or transportation to
a
vet for humane destruction. No mention of drowning, in fact they recommend
that no means of destruction other than those I've just mentioned should
be
attempted.


I cannot see how it is possible to get close enough to kill with a blow to
the head.

And who will be expected to pay the vet for despatching the vermin?

Should I take rats and mice to the vet to kill them?

Is this covered by the council tax?







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Old 15-05-2005, 11:36 AM
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"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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"Kay" wrote in message
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In article , Alan Holmes
writes

I follow a procedure which is laid down by a governmenr department

called
The Forestry Commission, if you have any problems with that procedure

I
suggest instead of trying to slag people off here, you contact them

and
put your concerns to them.

You are advocating drowning, which does not appear to be advocated by
the Forestry Commission in any of its currently applicable documents
referring to grey squirrel control.

What sensible/practical method do they now suggest is the way to

despatch
them?

If you have read the pdf document linked to my response to Kay's

message,
you will know the two methods recommended by the FC are either
administation
of a lethal blow to the head with a blunt instrument, or transportation

to
a
vet for humane destruction. No mention of drowning, in fact they

recommend
that no means of destruction other than those I've just mentioned should
be
attempted.


I cannot see how it is possible to get close enough to kill with a blow to
the head.


As you must know, if you have read the FC advice, you, kitted out with your
gauntlets, are somehow supposed to get the squirrel out of the trap into a
hessian sack, and, once you have subdued it in the sack, are supposed to
work out where the head is and whack it with the 'blunt instrument'. If you
find the advice impractical or incredible, I suggest you take it up with the
FC.


And who will be expected to pay the vet for despatching the vermin?


That would be you, I guess, since you're the one who wants rid of them.


Should I take rats and mice to the vet to kill them?


That would be entirely your decision, of course, but you might consider
using means of catching them which kill them humanely at point of capture?


Is this covered by the council tax?


You would have to ask your local council about their pest control policies,
and whether they're 'free' to residents.


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Old 16-05-2005, 06:02 PM
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I follow a procedure which is laid down by a governmenr department
called
The Forestry Commission, if you have any problems with that
procedure

I
suggest instead of trying to slag people off here, you contact them

and
put your concerns to them.

You are advocating drowning, which does not appear to be advocated
by
the Forestry Commission in any of its currently applicable documents
referring to grey squirrel control.

What sensible/practical method do they now suggest is the way to

despatch
them?

If you have read the pdf document linked to my response to Kay's

message,
you will know the two methods recommended by the FC are either
administation
of a lethal blow to the head with a blunt instrument, or transportation

to
a
vet for humane destruction. No mention of drowning, in fact they

recommend
that no means of destruction other than those I've just mentioned
should
be
attempted.


I cannot see how it is possible to get close enough to kill with a blow
to
the head.


As you must know, if you have read the FC advice, you, kitted out with
your
gauntlets, are somehow supposed to get the squirrel out of the trap into a
hessian sack, and, once you have subdued it in the sack, are supposed to
work out where the head is and whack it with the 'blunt instrument'. If
you
find the advice impractical or incredible, I suggest you take it up with
the
FC.


I have no wish to cause myself considerable injury trying to get one of
these things out of the trap.

These things are lethal.



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I follow a procedure which is laid down by a governmenr department
called
The Forestry Commission, if you have any problems with that
procedure

I
suggest instead of trying to slag people off here, you contact

them
and
put your concerns to them.

You are advocating drowning, which does not appear to be advocated
by
the Forestry Commission in any of its currently applicable

documents
referring to grey squirrel control.

What sensible/practical method do they now suggest is the way to

despatch
them?

If you have read the pdf document linked to my response to Kay's

message,
you will know the two methods recommended by the FC are either
administation
of a lethal blow to the head with a blunt instrument, or

transportation
to
a
vet for humane destruction. No mention of drowning, in fact they

recommend
that no means of destruction other than those I've just mentioned
should
be
attempted.

I cannot see how it is possible to get close enough to kill with a blow
to
the head.


As you must know, if you have read the FC advice, you, kitted out with
your
gauntlets, are somehow supposed to get the squirrel out of the trap into

a
hessian sack, and, once you have subdued it in the sack, are supposed to
work out where the head is and whack it with the 'blunt instrument'. If
you
find the advice impractical or incredible, I suggest you take it up with
the
FC.


I have no wish to cause myself considerable injury trying to get one of
these things out of the trap.

These things are lethal.


I don't blame them, they are merely trying to survive. Basically, your
attitude seems to be that you follow a method which is easy for you to do,
regardless of the suffering you inflict on your quarry.


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"BAC" wrote in message
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I follow a procedure which is laid down by a governmenr
department
called
The Forestry Commission, if you have any problems with that
procedure
I
suggest instead of trying to slag people off here, you contact

them
and
put your concerns to them.

You are advocating drowning, which does not appear to be
advocated
by
the Forestry Commission in any of its currently applicable

documents
referring to grey squirrel control.

What sensible/practical method do they now suggest is the way to
despatch
them?

If you have read the pdf document linked to my response to Kay's
message,
you will know the two methods recommended by the FC are either
administation
of a lethal blow to the head with a blunt instrument, or

transportation
to
a
vet for humane destruction. No mention of drowning, in fact they
recommend
that no means of destruction other than those I've just mentioned
should
be
attempted.

I cannot see how it is possible to get close enough to kill with a
blow
to
the head.

As you must know, if you have read the FC advice, you, kitted out with
your
gauntlets, are somehow supposed to get the squirrel out of the trap
into

a
hessian sack, and, once you have subdued it in the sack, are supposed
to
work out where the head is and whack it with the 'blunt instrument'. If
you
find the advice impractical or incredible, I suggest you take it up
with
the
FC.


I have no wish to cause myself considerable injury trying to get one of
these things out of the trap.

These things are lethal.


I don't blame them, they are merely trying to survive. Basically, your
attitude seems to be that you follow a method which is easy for you to do,
regardless of the suffering you inflict on your quarry.


Bearing in mind that I'm a simple ignorant peasant, could you use your
superiority to explain to me, in very simple terms, as I'm not able to
understand complicated things, how I can dispose of this vermin without
any extra cost to me, as I'm a very poor man.







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I have no wish to cause myself considerable injury trying to get one of
these things out of the trap.

These things are lethal.


I don't blame them, they are merely trying to survive. Basically, your
attitude seems to be that you follow a method which is easy for you to

do,
regardless of the suffering you inflict on your quarry.


Bearing in mind that I'm a simple ignorant peasant, could you use your
superiority to explain to me, in very simple terms, as I'm not able to
understand complicated things, how I can dispose of this vermin without
any extra cost to me, as I'm a very poor man.


I have already posted the relevant technical advice notes, and suggested
that if you are genuinely interested in current best practice, which I
doubt, you might seek practical advice and guidance from people who try to
dispose of the pests in a humane manner.


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