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Very strong Ammonia smell on grass
We laid a new law about 2 months ago and we have had a few patches of dead
grass. The patches have a very strong ammonia smell, so strong that when you put your nose near the grass it almost blows your head off.. So far I have repaired the area by washing the area off with lots of water and removing some of the soil and then placing a cut pieces of turf in the area and its recovered very well. We have a Bitch, but she has been well trained and does not used the grass she has her own area. She was ill a few weeks back and for some reason she chose to wee on two areas of grass, I washed off then off very well but the grass still went brown so it was replaced, no problem. She has no access to the grass if we are not in the garden area so she cant be doing it while we are not looking. Today I have found another area on its way out so I have replaced that the same way. Now I am very sure she did not use this area so I am looking for other answers. Does anyone know how long before a bitch that has weed on grass causes it to go brown and does it smell as bad as we seem to getting of ammonia. Could the dreaded cats in the area be a problem, ever since we put one side of the garden to a wildlife area we seem to get more cats, no surprise I guess. (horrible things, but that's a hot topic as we know), can they cause such a smell. We don't get foxes or other large mammals. Any suggestions? Many thanks Steve -- The UK SpeedTrap Guide" @ www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk The UK Weather Guide" @ www.ukstorms.com |
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"Steve - www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk" wrote in message ... We laid a new law about 2 months ago and we have had a few patches of dead grass. The patches have a very strong ammonia smell, so strong that when you put your nose near the grass it almost blows your head off.. We have a Bitch, but she has been well trained and does not used the grass she has her own area. She was ill a few weeks back and for some reason she chose to wee on two areas of grass, I washed off then off very well but the grass still went brown so it was replaced, no problem. She has no access to the grass if we are not in the garden area so she cant be doing it while we are not looking. Now I am very sure she did not use this area so I am looking for other answers. Could the dreaded cats in the area be a problem, ever since we put one side of the garden to a wildlife area we seem to get more cats, no surprise I guess. (horrible things, but that's a hot topic as we know), can they cause such a smell. We don't get foxes or other large mammals. Any suggestions? Many thanks Steve We have three cats- plus assorted free-loaders, coming in for food through the cat flap- and I've never noticed an ammonia smell. We do notice the 'tom-cat' smell from other cats. |
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On 26/6/05 15:55, in article
, "Steve - www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk" wrote: We laid a new law about 2 months ago and we have had a few patches of dead grass. The patches have a very strong ammonia smell, so strong that when you put your nose near the grass it almost blows your head off.. snip Turf or seed? If the former, talk to the people you got it from; if the latter, either it's an animal or an unpleasant neighbour with a water pistol! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
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"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk... On 26/6/05 15:55, in article , "Steve - www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk" wrote: We laid a new law about 2 months ago and we have had a few patches of dead grass. The patches have a very strong ammonia smell, so strong that when you put your nose near the grass it almost blows your head off.. snip Turf or seed? If the former, talk to the people you got it from; if the latter, either it's an animal or an unpleasant neighbour with a water pistol! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) I checked with the turf guys, no problem there. So time to put a camera out the back I think and see if an anamal is responsable. I can't see it being a neighbour as we all get on very well. I did chat with one neighbour today and he said he has been getting a fox in his front garden but we cant see it climbing 6ft walls and there are no gaps to get through. Thanks for the help so far. Steve |
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On 26/6/05 17:39, in article
, "Steve - www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message . uk... On 26/6/05 15:55, in article , "Steve - www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk" wrote: We laid a new law about 2 months ago and we have had a few patches of dead grass. The patches have a very strong ammonia smell, so strong that when you put your nose near the grass it almost blows your head off.. snip Turf or seed? If the former, talk to the people you got it from; if the latter, either it's an animal or an unpleasant neighbour with a water pistol! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) I checked with the turf guys, no problem there. So time to put a camera out the back I think and see if an anamal is responsable. I can't see it being a neighbour as we all get on very well. I did chat with one neighbour today and he said he has been getting a fox in his front garden but we cant see it climbing 6ft walls and there are no gaps to get through. Not intending any rudeness to the turf suppliers but are you - can you be - 100% sure that the turf was not contaminated in some way before it came to you? They may not even have known about it themselves but I do think that's a line worth checking further. Do you know anyone else they supplied recently? Of course, the only thing about that is that I would imagine (really don't know) that ammonia 'treated' turf would have caused trouble very quickly and that the smell would have been noticeable as it was laid. Some kind of night camera is a good idea. But surely an animal with pee that strong must be in terrible trouble, health wise? Would tom cats spraying do that kind of damage? -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
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"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk... On 26/6/05 17:39, in article , "Steve - www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message . uk... On 26/6/05 15:55, in article , "Steve - www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk" wrote: We laid a new law about 2 months ago and we have had a few patches of dead grass. The patches have a very strong ammonia smell, so strong that when you put your nose near the grass it almost blows your head off.. snip Turf or seed? If the former, talk to the people you got it from; if the latter, either it's an animal or an unpleasant neighbour with a water pistol! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) I checked with the turf guys, no problem there. So time to put a camera out the back I think and see if an anamal is responsable. I can't see it being a neighbour as we all get on very well. I did chat with one neighbour today and he said he has been getting a fox in his front garden but we cant see it climbing 6ft walls and there are no gaps to get through. Not intending any rudeness to the turf suppliers but are you - can you be - 100% sure that the turf was not contaminated in some way before it came to you? They may not even have known about it themselves but I do think that's a line worth checking further. Do you know anyone else they supplied recently? Of course, the only thing about that is that I would imagine (really don't know) that ammonia 'treated' turf would have caused trouble very quickly and that the smell would have been noticeable as it was laid. Some kind of night camera is a good idea. But surely an animal with pee that strong must be in terrible trouble, health wise? Would tom cats spraying do that kind of damage? -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) I know the turf is not a problem as the soil for a good few inches has the strong smell as well so its not come off the turf and contaminated the soil. The smell is far to powerfull even 6" down I would suspect that I would have smelt the ammonia on the turf when it arrived, the smell is that bad. I have two low light cameras on the front of the house I will move one and watch out for the critter responsible. Thanks Steve |
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Would tom cats spraying do that kind of damage? -- I have 3 cats of my own, two of them neutered males, one female. They have left bare patches on the lawn where they've peed and dug but there is no smell. On top of that, there are a few other cats that come roaming in, two are definitely male and spray. I don't know if they are neutered or not. However, cats always spray to leave their scent against something upright, not the lawn - that's just used for toileting purposes! The visitors here spray against the herbaceous plants, the tips of the leaves are slightly brown where they've sprayed but no strong smell. |
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"Steve - www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk" wrote in message ... "Sacha" wrote in message . uk... On 26/6/05 15:55, in article , "Steve - www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk" wrote: We laid a new law about 2 months ago and we have had a few patches of dead grass. The patches have a very strong ammonia smell, so strong that when you put your nose near the grass it almost blows your head off.. snip Turf or seed? If the former, talk to the people you got it from; if the latter, either it's an animal or an unpleasant neighbour with a water pistol! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) I checked with the turf guys, no problem there. So time to put a camera out the back I think and see if an anamal is responsable. I can't see it being a neighbour as we all get on very well. I did chat with one neighbour today and he said he has been getting a fox in his front garden but we cant see it climbing 6ft walls and there are no gaps to get through. Thanks for the help so far. Foxes do leave a very pungent 'marking scent'. Once smelt, never forgotten. -- ned http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk last update 24.06.2005 |
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"Steve - www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk" wrote in message I did chat with one neighbour today and he said he has been getting a fox in his front garden but we cant see it climbing 6ft walls You are right. It won't climb a 6 foot wall. It may jump it though or find a spot lower somewhere and jump up there to walk along the raised pathway. |
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On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:28:20 +0000, pammyT wrote
(in message ): "Steve - www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk" wrote in message I did chat with one neighbour today and he said he has been getting a fox in his front garden but we cant see it climbing 6ft walls You are right. It won't climb a 6 foot wall. It may jump it though or find a spot lower somewhere and jump up there to walk along the raised pathway. Yup- I recently saw a fox jump/run up an approximately 6 ft high wall and over the top in a neighbour's garden. -- VX (remove alcohol for email) |
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"Steve - www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk" wrote in message ... snip I did chat with one neighbour today and he said he has been getting a fox in his front garden but we cant see it climbing 6ft walls and there are no gaps to get through. Thanks for the help so far. Steve a fox could easily jump onto a 6ft wall. I've seen cats do it to mine, and foxes are bigger. -- Tumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com |
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"Steve -
www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk" wrote: We laid a new law about 2 months ago and we have had a few patches of dead grass. The patches have a very strong ammonia smell, so strong that when you put your nose near the grass it almost blows your head off.. snip I have two Dalmatian bitches but generally don't find one wee would kill the grass at all. It seems to be on areas where dogs consistently widdle which has the dead patches. Good job as I would hate to have to ban the dogs from the garden and keep them off the grass! Never smelled a strong ammonia smell so perhaps it might be the fox. Generally once an animal marks / widdles on its territory as puppies do then the smell makes them go on the same spots as if it's a sort of mental trigger. Washing with something that smells equally as strong might help. Jeyes fluid? After all if the grass is dead a wash with that won't harm the area! Does your dog try and go on top of it? Many dogs try and overmark other animal's smells, especially if they see the area as their own. janet -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
... "Steve - www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk" wrote: We laid a new law about 2 months ago and we have had a few patches of dead grass. The patches have a very strong ammonia smell, so strong that when you put your nose near the grass it almost blows your head off.. snip I have two Dalmatian bitches but generally don't find one wee would kill the grass at all. It seems to be on areas where dogs consistently widdle which has the dead patches. Good job as I would hate to have to ban the dogs from the garden and keep them off the grass! Never smelled a strong ammonia smell so perhaps it might be the fox. Generally once an animal marks / widdles on its territory as puppies do then the smell makes them go on the same spots as if it's a sort of mental trigger. Washing with something that smells equally as strong might help. Jeyes fluid? After all if the grass is dead a wash with that won't harm the area! Does your dog try and go on top of it? Many dogs try and overmark other animal's smells, especially if they see the area as their own. janet -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk Looks like the problem has gone. Our dog was very ill and placed on a drip. I spoke to the vet and she informed us that the medication she was on would make her wee very strong. It looks like she was just not with it and using an area she would not normally use. Since she is getting back on form the problem has gone away. The tomato one is a good one, she gets enough of them when she raids the green house during watering. Once again thanks for all the advice and help Steve The UK SpeedTrap Guide" @ www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk The UK Weather Guide" @ www.ukstorms.com |
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[quote=Janet Tweedy] "Steve -
www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk" wrote: We laid a new law about 2 months ago and we have had a few patches of dead grass. The patches have a very strong ammonia smell, so strong that when you put your nose near the grass it almost blows your head off.. snip I have two Dalmatian bitches but generally don't find one wee would kill the grass at all. It seems to be on areas where dogs consistently widdle which has the dead patches. Good job as I would hate to have to ban the dogs from the garden and keep them off the grass! Never smelled a strong ammonia smell so perhaps it might be the fox. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dalmatians' urine is quite unlike other dogs. More similar to humans. I remembered this from university [forgot most other things] and just rechecked via Google~~ Brian -- |
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In article , Brian F
writes ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dalmatians' urine is quite unlike other dogs. More similar to humans. I remembered this from university [forgot most other things] and just rechecked via Google~~ Brian Only in the sense that they can form crystals from uric acid. They essentially widdle the same as any other dog! Their urine is the same as humans and not like other breeds. -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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