I started my first pond and live in Canada. The leaves are dropping fast
and soon it will be well below freezing. My pond is about 1.5 meters deep,
but that will freeze solid by mid November here. I have a 75 gallon tank
which I hope will hold my first year fish consisting of 3 gold fish and 1
koi.

I was wondering if the tank would be of sufficient size and I do not know
the procedure on how to prep the aquarium. Do I use some of the water from
the pond to get the aquarium started? Do I cycle the aquarium for a period
of time?

My family has become quite attached to the fish and we would surely hate to
lose any.

Thanks for any advice.

"Grandpa" wrote in message
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I started my first pond and live in Canada. The leaves are dropping fast
and soon it will be well below freezing. My pond is about 1.5 meters
deep,
but that will freeze solid by mid November here. I have a 75 gallon tank
which I hope will hold my first year fish consisting of 3 gold fish and 1
koi.

I was wondering if the tank would be of sufficient size and I do not know
the procedure on how to prep the aquarium. Do I use some of the water
from
the pond to get the aquarium started? Do I cycle the aquarium for a
period
of time?

My family has become quite attached to the fish and we would surely hate
to
lose any.

Thanks for any advice.


November? You must be in Edmonton,

I bought a 55 gallon last year to bring my GF inside to watch. While I was
trying to find some pure ammonia to do a fishless cycle, the Blue Heron paid
us a visit. So we filled the aquarium with pond water and did an emergency
move. The boys all survived. This may not be the optimal situation. but it
worked for us.

BTW, I've heard that Koi need about 100 gallons per fish, but I guess it
depends on it's size.

Bill Stock wrote:

"Grandpa" wrote in message
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I started my first pond and live in Canada. The leaves are dropping fast
and soon it will be well below freezing. My pond is about 1.5 meters
deep,
but that will freeze solid by mid November here. I have a 75 gallon tank
which I hope will hold my first year fish consisting of 3 gold fish and 1
koi.


November? You must be in Edmonton,

_Even_ in Edmonton, 1.5 meters should be enough to not freeze solid. Though
it would be darn hard to keep a hole open through the winter, there.

I think you really need to tell us a lot more about your pond. How large is
the pond, and how big are the fish?

I bought a 55 gallon last year to bring my GF inside to watch. While I was
trying to find some pure ammonia to do a fishless cycle, the Blue Heron
paid us a visit. So we filled the aquarium with pond water and did an
emergency move.

I can't imagine doing it any other way. Why bother to cycle an aquarium
when you have exactly the sort of water they're used to. Fill it with
water, some plants that you might expect to survive indoors (where they'll
get much less light than they're used to) and maybe a few rocks from the
pond, and they should be fine - assuming it's big enough for your koi.

BTW, I've heard that Koi need about 100 gallons per fish, but I guess it
depends on it's size.

Exactly. Besides which, we figure 100 gallons in a pond, but an aquarium is
usually more carefully maintained.
--
derek

Bill Stock wrote:

"Grandpa" wrote in message
...
I started my first pond and live in Canada. The leaves are dropping fast
and soon it will be well below freezing. My pond is about 1.5 meters
deep,
but that will freeze solid by mid November here. I have a 75 gallon tank
which I hope will hold my first year fish consisting of 3 gold fish and 1
koi.


November? You must be in Edmonton,

_Even_ in Edmonton, 1.5 meters should be enough to not freeze solid. Though
it would be darn hard to keep a hole open through the winter, there.

I think you really need to tell us a lot more about your pond. How large is
the pond, and how big are the fish?

I bought a 55 gallon last year to bring my GF inside to watch. While I was
trying to find some pure ammonia to do a fishless cycle, the Blue Heron
paid us a visit. So we filled the aquarium with pond water and did an
emergency move.

I can't imagine doing it any other way. Why bother to cycle an aquarium
when you have exactly the sort of water they're used to. Fill it with
water, some plants that you might expect to survive indoors (where they'll
get much less light than they're used to) and maybe a few rocks from the
pond, and they should be fine - assuming it's big enough for your koi.

BTW, I've heard that Koi need about 100 gallons per fish, but I guess it
depends on it's size.

Exactly. Besides which, we figure 100 gallons in a pond, but an aquarium is
usually more carefully maintained.
--
derek

it is easier to build a cover for the pond that will withstand the snow, drop the
pump in a bucket filter aiming the pump hose at the surface, drop in a 500 watt
heater set to 50oF and see how it goes. the basic problem in the frozen tundra is
how long the fish gotta go without food.
here is my pond in winter http://puregold.aquaria.net/mypond/winters/winter.htm
god... I just hate the crappy quality of the light in winter.
Ingrid

"Grandpa" wrote in message
...
I started my first pond and live in Canada. The leaves are dropping fast
and soon it will be well below freezing. My pond is about 1.5 meters
deep,
but that will freeze solid by mid November here. I have a 75 gallon tank
which I hope will hold my first year fish consisting of 3 gold fish and 1
koi.


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it is easier to build a cover for the pond that will withstand the snow, drop the
pump in a bucket filter aiming the pump hose at the surface, drop in a 500 watt
heater set to 50oF and see how it goes. the basic problem in the frozen tundra is
how long the fish gotta go without food.
here is my pond in winter http://puregold.aquaria.net/mypond/winters/winter.htm
god... I just hate the crappy quality of the light in winter.
Ingrid

"Grandpa" wrote in message
...
I started my first pond and live in Canada. The leaves are dropping fast
and soon it will be well below freezing. My pond is about 1.5 meters
deep,
but that will freeze solid by mid November here. I have a 75 gallon tank
which I hope will hold my first year fish consisting of 3 gold fish and 1
koi.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

"Grandpa" wrote in message
I started my first pond and live in Canada. The leaves are dropping fast
and soon it will be well below freezing. My pond is about 1.5 meters deep,
but that will freeze solid by mid November here. I have a 75 gallon tank
which I hope will hold my first year fish consisting of 3 gold fish and 1
koi.

I'm in the same process.... though I have till mid-October before the
leaves start to fall.... and then it is only if the wind is hard enough to
shake them loose.

I only bring in my fantail goldfish, as winter can sometimes be hard on
them.

In my case, I can't haul 55 gallons of pond water around to the aquarium,
so I'll be setting the pH to what the pond is, and the temp as close to or
a little higher than the pond. I'll probably salt dip them, and bring them
in over a span of time, 1 every week most likely.

Today we are taking in a bunch of goldfish and maybe a couple of large
plecos to the pet store, wanting to cull the herd. ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

"Grandpa" wrote in message
I started my first pond and live in Canada. The leaves are dropping fast
and soon it will be well below freezing. My pond is about 1.5 meters deep,
but that will freeze solid by mid November here. I have a 75 gallon tank
which I hope will hold my first year fish consisting of 3 gold fish and 1
koi.

I'm in the same process.... though I have till mid-October before the
leaves start to fall.... and then it is only if the wind is hard enough to
shake them loose.

I only bring in my fantail goldfish, as winter can sometimes be hard on
them.

In my case, I can't haul 55 gallons of pond water around to the aquarium,
so I'll be setting the pH to what the pond is, and the temp as close to or
a little higher than the pond. I'll probably salt dip them, and bring them
in over a span of time, 1 every week most likely.

Today we are taking in a bunch of goldfish and maybe a couple of large
plecos to the pet store, wanting to cull the herd. ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~