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Roses in Normandy
Hi everyone,
I am in Normandy on a farm and have extensive formal gardens which I have been trying to return to their former glory. I have about 100 roses in the main gardens and have had some nasty problems with an employee who sprayed most of the roses with a roundup spray instead of a rose spray last summer (Yes, it was on purpose). It broke my heart. I have started replacing them, but my question is, is it enough to remove large areas of soil and replace with new or do I need to take the entire soil from all the beds to have healthy growth with new planting? I would appreciate any experienced rose growers comments. Thanks Ann |
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"ALS" wrote in message ... Hi everyone, I am in Normandy on a farm and have extensive formal gardens which I have been trying to return to their former glory. I have about 100 roses in the main gardens and have had some nasty problems with an employee who sprayed most of the roses with a roundup spray instead of a rose spray last summer (Yes, it was on purpose). It broke my heart. I have started replacing them, but my question is, is it enough to remove large areas of soil and replace with new or do I need to take the entire soil from all the beds to have healthy growth with new planting? I would appreciate any experienced rose growers comments. Thanks Ann Ann, What a horrible stunt to inflict on you and your roses, I"m sure you must have been really crushed. I hope your rebuilding efforts go smoothly. My first hunch was that you shouldn't have to replace the soil at all-- I was pretty sure Roundup doesn't impact the soil, just the vegetation it's sprayed on. Hopefully the spray in question was just like Roundup. I did a search on Roundup and I found this: http://www.pestproducts.com/roundup_herbicide.htm This link confirms what I suspected-- if the spray WAS just like Roundup, you'll have killed plants but soil that's OK to replant once you remove the dead plant. You shouldn't have to replace ANY of the soil, just get rid of the dead plant. If there's a bright side at all-- at least you get to choose all new rose plants? Good luck with your rebuilding. JimS. Seattle |
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Ann,
What a horrible stunt to inflict on you and your roses, I"m sure you must have been really crushed. I hope your rebuilding efforts go smoothly. My first hunch was that you shouldn't have to replace the soil at all-- I was pretty sure Roundup doesn't impact the soil, just the vegetation it's sprayed on. Hopefully the spray in question was just like Roundup. I did a search on Roundup and I found this: http://www.pestproducts.com/roundup_herbicide.htm This link confirms what I suspected-- if the spray WAS just like Roundup, you'll have killed plants but soil that's OK to replant once you remove the dead plant. You shouldn't have to replace ANY of the soil, just get rid of the dead plant. If there's a bright side at all-- at least you get to choose all new rose plants? Good luck with your rebuilding. JimS. Seattle Jim, Thank you for your thoughts. I have had in the last hour a number of emails and advise and your right, I should be OK with the soil I have. A gardener in a UK garden group has suggested I look at the David Austin roses web site. They have a new product - a cocktail of friendly Bacteria/Fungi - that apparently inoculates the soil against rose replant disease. Seems worth a try. They also have a great selection of roses for me to look at buying. They ship to France too. Yes it was a horrible stunt. This all happened last summer just when the garden was looking glorious and all of a sudden everything started to go brown and with in 2 weeks all the roses were dead. Apparently the employee was wanting to leave and couldn't get unemployment benefits if he left, so he had to be dismissed. He could have just simply told us this and we would have happily let him go. Ann |
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France has unique labor issues. I couldn't imagine truck drivers blocking
the highway in the U.S. : was wanting to leave and couldn't get unemployment benefits if he left, so : he had to be dismissed. He could have just simply told us this and we would : have happily let him go. : : Ann : : -- Tom Line For Fun And Safety In Firearms Sports visit... -- http://www.bobtuley.com -- |
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"Tom Line" wrote in message ... France has unique labor issues. I couldn't imagine truck drivers blocking the highway in the U.S. mmmm...... I won't get started on that subject. |
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"lgb" wrote in message ... I've got a few of his early "Chaucer" series. If you can get it to grow, "The Yeoman" is beyond a doubt his prettiest rose. The blooms are gorgeous and the foilage is a shiny dark green almost like holly. Mine never gets over 3' tall, but other than that I've had no trouble. Just lucky, I guess. There's a picture on my website at: http://www.intergate.com/~lard/ Very nice. The Yeoman is quite lovely. Thanks for sharing |
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"ALS" wrote in message ... Hi everyone, I am in Normandy on a farm and have extensive formal gardens which I have been trying to return to their former glory. I have about 100 roses in the main gardens and have had some nasty problems with an employee who sprayed most of the roses with a roundup spray instead of a rose spray last summer (Yes, it was on purpose). It broke my heart. I have started replacing them, but my question is, is it enough to remove large areas of soil and replace with new or do I need to take the entire soil from all the beds to have healthy growth with new planting? I would appreciate any experienced rose growers comments. Roundup does not persist in soil. But please consider spending a little money analyzing the soil and container/equipment used in spraying. If there is 2-4-D then that is a problem. Shouldn't an insurance claim be considered? Killing a garden like that is the act of a psycopath, this person needs to be taken into custody for evaluation. |
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"Leon Trollski" wrote in message news:aDD2e.856969$6l.672057@pd7tw2no... Roundup does not persist in soil. But please consider spending a little money analyzing the soil and container/equipment used in spraying. If there is 2-4-D then that is a problem. Shouldn't an insurance claim be considered? Killing a garden like that is the act of a psycopath, this person needs to be taken into custody for evaluation. Thanks for your Roundup advice. I have brought new spray equipment for the spraying this year and will do all spraying myself. I haven't really thought about an insurance claim. Could be worth looking into. I have considered taking the employee to court for damages though. I don't know how far I would get with it as the union protection laws in France are very one sided and always squash the big bad employer when it comes disputes or gross misconduct. Ann |
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"ALS" wrote in message ... I haven't really thought about an insurance claim. Could be worth looking into. I have considered taking the employee to court for damages though. I don't know how far I would get with it as the union protection laws in France are very one sided and always squash the big bad employer when it comes disputes or gross misconduct. Ann I wasn't thinking lawsuit, but rather a police complaint. 100 roses is a lot of cashola. |
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"ALS" wrote in message ... Hi everyone, I am in Normandy on a farm and have extensive formal gardens which I have been trying to return to their former glory. I have about 100 roses in the main gardens and have had some nasty problems with an employee who sprayed most of the roses with a roundup spray instead of a rose spray last summer (Yes, it was on purpose). It broke my heart. I have started replacing them, but my question is, is it enough to remove large areas of soil and replace with new or do I need to take the entire soil from all the beds to have healthy growth with new planting? I would appreciate any experienced rose growers comments. Send me your photos |
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Thank you for your thoughts. I accept had in the endure hour a amount of email and admonish and your right, I should be OK with the clay I have. A agriculturalist in a UK garden accumulation has appropriate I attending at the David Austin roses web site. They accept a new artifact - a cocktail of friendly Bacteria/Fungi - that allegedly inoculates the clay adjoin rose replant disease.
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