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Poisoning Ivy
Ms Leebee wrote:
Hi all. We moved into a house that has had its fencelines hacked by invasive, crazy, overgrown ivy. We filled 2 skips with it ( and other junk ), and still have to dig out the trunks, which we will do when the fences come down to be replaced, in a few weeks time. Anyway, the ivy has been there so long, I keep finding new underground shoots, trying to re-establish themselves. The sawn-off trunks are trying to regrow, etc etc. I have been told the only thing to do with ivy is to poison it, however I am concerned about poisoning the soil, and affecting the trees I will eventually want to grow along the new fenceline. 1. - Will I be able to rid myself of ivy by simply ripping it all out ( to the best of my ability ) 2. - If I need poison, is there a method or type of poison that will only affect the ivy ? 3. - If I need poison, how do I apply it ? 4. - Any other advice or alternatives/tricks welcome Thanks in advance. Re Ivy. Be very careful with this stuff. You will get itchiness after exposure to it, and it seems that exposure is cumulative and you wonder why you are itching. See these websites regarding this It appears that Ivy's are related to the poisom Ivy from America and were grown here at one point....... They looked so nice...... Unknown itchiness http://www.healthfirst.net.au/content/view/1121/42/ Contact allergies with plants local Aussie site http://www.allergycapital.com.au/Pages/contactderm.html Revenge of the plants http://ncnatural.com/wildflwr/obnxious.html Anyway enough of the negative stuff. It pays to get rid of it whatever it is. My neighbour suffered badly and I didnt realise why I was always itchy. Turns out I was in contact with it and didnt realise it, and it turns itchy after exposure, a few days mostly, which leaves you puzzled... Then when someone who really reacts to the stuff gets it, the penny drops.... |
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"Jonno" wrote in message ... Ms Leebee wrote: Hi all. We moved into a house that has had its fencelines hacked by invasive, crazy, overgrown ivy. We filled 2 skips with it ( and other junk ), and still have to dig out the trunks, which we will do when the fences come down to be replaced, in a few weeks time. Anyway, the ivy has been there so long, I keep finding new underground shoots, trying to re-establish themselves. The sawn-off trunks are trying to regrow, etc etc. I have been told the only thing to do with ivy is to poison it, however I am concerned about poisoning the soil, and affecting the trees I will eventually want to grow along the new fenceline. 1. - Will I be able to rid myself of ivy by simply ripping it all out ( to the best of my ability ) 2. - If I need poison, is there a method or type of poison that will only affect the ivy ? 3. - If I need poison, how do I apply it ? 4. - Any other advice or alternatives/tricks welcome Thanks in advance. Re Ivy. Be very careful with this stuff. You will get itchiness after exposure to it, and it seems that exposure is cumulative and you wonder why you are itching. See these websites regarding this It appears that Ivy's are related to the poisom Ivy from America and were grown here at one point....... They looked so nice...... Unknown itchiness http://www.healthfirst.net.au/content/view/1121/42/ Contact allergies with plants local Aussie site http://www.allergycapital.com.au/Pages/contactderm.html Revenge of the plants http://ncnatural.com/wildflwr/obnxious.html Anyway enough of the negative stuff. It pays to get rid of it whatever it is. My neighbour suffered badly and I didnt realise why I was always itchy. Turns out I was in contact with it and didnt realise it, and it turns itchy after exposure, a few days mostly, which leaves you puzzled... Then when someone who really reacts to the stuff gets it, the penny drops.... I suffer badly from hayfever whenever I get in contact with ivy. Is rather embarassing when working in someones garden and you have tears streaming down your face and absolutely no control over it. Antihistamines are so good then. I was told it was the dust on the back of the leaves containing small mites. I am glad I don't come up in welts. I now tell people get someone else to do there ivy. Cheers Richard |
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Loosecanon wrote:
"Jonno" wrote in message ... Ms Leebee wrote: Hi all. We moved into a house that has had its fencelines hacked by invasive, crazy, overgrown ivy. We filled 2 skips with it ( and other junk ), and still have to dig out the trunks, which we will do when the fences come down to be replaced, in a few weeks time. Anyway, the ivy has been there so long, I keep finding new underground shoots, trying to re-establish themselves. The sawn-off trunks are trying to regrow, etc etc. I have been told the only thing to do with ivy is to poison it, however I am concerned about poisoning the soil, and affecting the trees I will eventually want to grow along the new fenceline. 1. - Will I be able to rid myself of ivy by simply ripping it all out ( to the best of my ability ) 2. - If I need poison, is there a method or type of poison that will only affect the ivy ? 3. - If I need poison, how do I apply it ? 4. - Any other advice or alternatives/tricks welcome Thanks in advance. Re Ivy. Be very careful with this stuff. You will get itchiness after exposure to it, and it seems that exposure is cumulative and you wonder why you are itching. See these websites regarding this It appears that Ivy's are related to the poisom Ivy from America and were grown here at one point....... They looked so nice...... Unknown itchiness http://www.healthfirst.net.au/content/view/1121/42/ Contact allergies with plants local Aussie site http://www.allergycapital.com.au/Pages/contactderm.html Revenge of the plants http://ncnatural.com/wildflwr/obnxious.html Anyway enough of the negative stuff. It pays to get rid of it whatever it is. My neighbour suffered badly and I didnt realise why I was always itchy. Turns out I was in contact with it and didnt realise it, and it turns itchy after exposure, a few days mostly, which leaves you puzzled... Then when someone who really reacts to the stuff gets it, the penny drops.... I suffer badly from hayfever whenever I get in contact with ivy. Is rather embarassing when working in someones garden and you have tears streaming down your face and absolutely no control over it. Antihistamines are so good then. I was told it was the dust on the back of the leaves containing small mites. I am glad I don't come up in welts. I now tell people get someone else to do there ivy. Cheers Richard Mites could be sucking the oil in the leaves... The problem is apparently that there is some kind of oil which causes the reactions. whatever, I try and stay clear of it now. also burning the ivy causes even worse problems.. The Howard government says anyone can grab a mower and cut grass and have a job (in this drought?), but they havent seen the effects this stuff can have on you when you do.. Any vegetation can set it of at times.... Yeah hayfever etc crazy all over itchy face, all over body itchiness, a real problem when driving, it gets you all of a sudden.... Heres some details of it.... From the website http://www.cwss-scm.ca/Weeds/poisonous_weeds.htm Anacardiaceae (cashew family) The roots, stems, leaves and fruits of the following Rhus species contain an oil that produces an irritating dermatitis in humans after an initial sensitization. Sensitivity to the poisonous oil varies greatly from person to person, and even during different periods in the same persons lifetime. Humans are not born sensitive to the oil, and therefore are not affected with the dermatitis on first contact with the plants. However, most people can be sensitized after a single contact. In general, children are more sensitive than adults, and people with a light skin react more than those with a pigmented skin. Since the poisonous oil must contact the cells beneath the skin layer, the dermatitis is most common and most severe in areas with thin skin. All of the following Rhus species have clusters of yellow flowers and, later, whitish berries. Colored illustrations of all poisonous Rhus taxa here. Rhus diversiloba Torr. & Gray- western poison-oak Usually a trailing vine, confined to the extreme west coast of the United States and southern coast of British Columbia. Native to North America. Rhus radicans L. var. negundo (Greene) G. A. Mulligan- central poison-ivy Usually a climbing vine; most common in in the north-central United States and extreme southern Canada. Rhus radicans L. var. radicans- eastern poison-ivy Usually a climbing vine; most common in the eastern United States and southeastern Canada. Native to North America. Rhus radicans L. var. rydbergii (Small ex Rydb.) Rehd.- Rydberg’s poison-ivy A trailing vine; most common in the northern United States and southern Canada. Rhus vernix L.- poison sumac Tall shrub to 20 feet (6m.) high; occasional in swamps and wet locations in the eastern United States, southern Ontario and southwestern Quebec. |
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"Jonno" wrote in message
Ms Leebee wrote: We moved into a house that has had its fencelines hacked by invasive, crazy, overgrown ivy. Re Ivy. Be very careful with this stuff. You will get itchiness after exposure to it, and it seems that exposure is cumulative and you wonder why you are itching. See these websites regarding this It appears that Ivy's are related to the poisom Ivy from America and were grown here at one point....... They looked so nice...... Huh? How is it related? Poison ivy is called "toxicodendron radicans" and ivy is called "hedera helix". Your post made me quite curious so I went off to do a bit of google hunt. Poison ivy is from the Anacardiaceae family which is the Sumac family whilst ivy is from the Araliaceae family. I can't see any or find connection between the two families. I found this site with lots of pics of poison ivy and I have to say that I've be very surprised if any gardener in Aus would make a mistake between what is an ivy and what is a poison ivy: http://poisonivy.aesir.com/view/picqna.html Poison ivy looks nothing like a "normal" ivy. Unknown itchiness http://www.healthfirst.net.au/content/view/1121/42/ The abovementioned site says that poison ivy isn't prevalent in Aus (not that it doesn't occur but that it isn't prevalent). Contact allergies with plants local Aussie site http://www.allergycapital.com.au/Pages/contactderm.html The abovementioned site doesn't even mention poison ivy. It's just about allergies (but boy oh boy are there some nasty reaction there). Revenge of the plants http://ncnatural.com/wildflwr/obnxious.html The pics on this site clearly show that poison ivy is nothing like normal old domestic ivy. Anyway enough of the negative stuff. It pays to get rid of it whatever it is. My neighbour suffered badly and I didnt realise why I was always itchy. Turns out I was in contact with it and didnt realise it, and it turns itchy after exposure, a few days mostly, which leaves you puzzled... Then when someone who really reacts to the stuff gets it, the penny drops.... An allergic reaction is certainly possible but what were you really exposed to? Poison ivy or ivy? |
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Poisoning Ivy
Farm1 wrote:
"Jonno" wrote in message Ms Leebee wrote: We moved into a house that has had its fencelines hacked by invasive, crazy, overgrown ivy. Re Ivy. Be very careful with this stuff. You will get itchiness after exposure to it, and it seems that exposure is cumulative and you wonder why you are itching. See these websites regarding this It appears that Ivy's are related to the poisom Ivy from America and were grown here at one point....... They looked so nice...... Huh? How is it related? Poison ivy is called "toxicodendron radicans" and ivy is called "hedera helix". Your post made me quite curious so I went off to do a bit of google hunt. Poison ivy is from the Anacardiaceae family which is the Sumac family whilst ivy is from the Araliaceae family. I can't see any or find connection between the two families. I found this site with lots of pics of poison ivy and I have to say that I've be very surprised if any gardener in Aus would make a mistake between what is an ivy and what is a poison ivy: http://poisonivy.aesir.com/view/picqna.html Poison ivy looks nothing like a "normal" ivy. Unknown itchiness http://www.healthfirst.net.au/content/view/1121/42/ The abovementioned site says that poison ivy isn't prevalent in Aus (not that it doesn't occur but that it isn't prevalent). Contact allergies with plants local Aussie site http://www.allergycapital.com.au/Pages/contactderm.html The abovementioned site doesn't even mention poison ivy. It's just about allergies (but boy oh boy are there some nasty reaction there). Revenge of the plants http://ncnatural.com/wildflwr/obnxious.html The pics on this site clearly show that poison ivy is nothing like normal old domestic ivy. Anyway enough of the negative stuff. It pays to get rid of it whatever it is. My neighbour suffered badly and I didnt realise why I was always itchy. Turns out I was in contact with it and didnt realise it, and it turns itchy after exposure, a few days mostly, which leaves you puzzled... Then when someone who really reacts to the stuff gets it, the penny drops.... An allergic reaction is certainly possible but what were you really exposed to? Poison ivy or ivy? Thats the problem, I reckon it was "hedera helix" Doctors say "hedera helix" is also a problem. Still after the reaction I'm not going near any of the stuff. Still similar reactions... After a while, worse when sweating... Its handy to file the info though... |
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