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Water restrictions and gardens
"0tterbot" wrote in message
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message who just haven't got the first idea about anything! but the onus is on country people to stop whingeing & educate them. the two lots are entirely interdependent, but you wouldn't know that from observing them. Having lived in the country for the majority of my life, I strongly think that country people have more idea of the interdependance and the realities of life than city people do. We've been in drought for 6 whole years but it is only now that the major metro papers seem to have woken up about it and only then because the cost of food is really going to bite the city residents. as a regular reader of city papers (and ex-city dweller), that's not really so, actually. it's probably fair to say that all individuals have now woken up to the problem all of a sudden. as an issue, it's just _exploded_ recently, and equally for everyone. i mean, sydney people (and those in other places) have been experiencing the reality of water shortages for 5 years, haven't they? Oh come on! Sydney people wouldn't know a water shortage if it bit them on the arse. They only think they do. the fact that most of them don't grow primary produce only means that for them the situation isn't _dire_ in terms of livelihood in the short term; but they have been well aware of it for quite some time city peeps are generally better-educated ????? Not in my experience. They know a lot about some things and naff all about other things. and have a much broader view of the world, Again, not in my experience. They lack the sort of curiosity and solution orientation of country people. They have everything handed to them on a platter and so don't have to come up with innovative or real life solutions or have to spend time thinking about things that country people do. This country approach I have always found flows over into broader mainstream approaches to world politics and foreign affairs. their world is just bigger than ours is. Busier I've found but not bigger. In fact I've always been astounded at how restricted are the lives of Sydney people in particular. i believe it's equally impossible for most country people to have any idea of what's really going on in the rest of the country. certainly the media is more accessible, but it seems to matter less when it's a long way away - it seems a problem removed, but it's not (as we all live here together). ????? I know of farmers who know of what is going on in other parts of the rural world across the country. Lord knows where they thought (if they did think at all) of where their food came from. again speaking for sydney - most fresh food there is grown in the sydney basin - it's local :-) (for now, anyway). again, it seems to take a crisis (farmland possibly being taken away for development) for people to realise what might be lost. argh! Not so! You have either not been out of the city long enough or have just proved my point about where city people think their food comes from. Water and how much of it is available has really been much lower down the agenda because in comparison to the country, our major cities are relativeley well supplied and taking it from miles and miles away into the cities.. a critical mass of people gives benefits, that's true. many services iin the country are crap - it's not just a water thing. (sigh). we don't exist, you know ;-) Well certainly not for the Iemma or federal governments.. They've been doing soemthing about it for many more than 5 years with a few exceptions (like Cubbie). Farmers were talking about Global warming and climate change long before the bulk of the population. Only the real lunatic city fringe were talking about those things when I knew of dead boring and very conservative farmers who'd noticed the impact on their land. that's a good point you make unintentionally My point was intentional. - one problem that both farmers (as a group, not individually - i'm being very general) and "greenies" have is seeing the other side as the enemy, You are talking in generalisations and it is only the case for some farmers. when _really_ they're obviously on the same side. but farmers will NOT accept something a greenie said - the farmer's association has to say it, & _then_ it's true. anyone can be undone by their own limited world-view, both farmers & ecologists are no exception. and yet, "green" farmers are fully accepted (by all parties) on their results, and so many ecological issues are now entirely mainstream anyway, so why is there not more cooperation and dialogue? it's not green groups refusing to speak to farmers, that's for sure! it's just both sides not thinking about who their allies really are. I suggest you do two things. Do some reading up on P.A. Yeomans. He was a farmer whose published material goes back to the mid 1950s. The second thing is to look at the 2006-07 copy of the ABCs "Open Garden Scheme", page 22 on Lyndfield Park. That farmer started work on his farm in 1982 and even then what he was doing was not unique. All that knowledge was around even then. |
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