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, Terryc wrote: In NSW, it was proposed to make certain features compulsory in new homes, but we had all the developes crying crocodile tears and sayin that will make it too expensive for first home buyer, oh woe is them (US). So they removed the requirments. I believe water tanks were one. Well, they brought in BASIX, but with a very long lead time, and made it easy to pass just by installing efficient appliances instead of requiring better building design. BASIX for renovations/extensions came in on 1 October 2006. We got our DA in a few days prior -- and our DA includes giving our house better passive solar design and rainwater tanks. The architect said that BASIX for us would just mean another set of consultancy fees! I think council should pass a bylaw that all new bluiding must have a minium of 500gal tank even connected to town water. Up our way (Central Victoria) any changes to the property the first thing council ask is any trees to be removed but nothing about water saving. Thought I heard something this morning about how in VIC it is compulsory for new houses to have either rainwater tanks or solar hot water? Tree removal is covering their arse as people have an absolute paranoia about falling tree limbs. I guess that I am 1,00,000 more times likely to die on the roads than by a tree falling on me. There's also trees falling onto cars/houses, and cleaning up after storms. Personally, that's a risk I want to live with. There are parts of Baulkham Hills Shire that give you the willies -- bricks and rooftops to the horizon, and NO ROOM for trees. Betcha those areas will have higher suicide rates. -- Chookie -- Sydney, Australia (Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply) "Parenthood is like the modern stone washing process for denim jeans. You may start out crisp, neat and tough, but you end up pale, limp and wrinkled." Kerry Cue |
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Tree removal is covering their arse as people have an absolute paranoia about falling tree limbs. I guess that I am 1,00,000 more times likely to die on the roads than by a tree falling on me. There's also trees falling onto cars/houses, and cleaning up after storms. Personally, that's a risk I want to live with. Our thoughts exactly. the feature of our back yard is a massive gum tree. Pitty it is on the eastern side, but it provides a cool location in summer and attracts many and varied birds. Excellent. There are parts of Baulkham Hills Shire that give you the willies -- bricks and rooftops to the horizon, and NO ROOM for trees. Betcha those areas will have higher suicide rates. Did town planning asubject at Tafe in Ultimo, where there is a room with a picture of a dutch town. It it horrifying to me. Almost a square mile of red, red, red,. no green trees or bushes. |
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"Chookie" wrote in message ... In article , Terryc wrote: In NSW, it was proposed to make certain features compulsory in new homes, but we had all the developes crying crocodile tears and sayin that will make it too expensive for first home buyer, oh woe is them (US). So they removed the requirments. I believe water tanks were one. Well, they brought in BASIX, but with a very long lead time, and made it easy to pass just by installing efficient appliances instead of requiring better building design. BASIX for renovations/extensions came in on 1 October 2006. We got our DA in a few days prior -- and our DA includes giving our house better passive solar design and rainwater tanks. The architect said that BASIX for us would just mean another set of consultancy fees! I think council should pass a bylaw that all new bluiding must have a minium of 500gal tank even connected to town water. Up our way (Central Victoria) any changes to the property the first thing council ask is any trees to be removed but nothing about water saving. Thought I heard something this morning about how in VIC it is compulsory for new houses to have either rainwater tanks or solar hot water? Tree removal is covering their arse as people have an absolute paranoia about falling tree limbs. I guess that I am 1,00,000 more times likely to die on the roads than by a tree falling on me. There's also trees falling onto cars/houses, and cleaning up after storms. Personally, that's a risk I want to live with. There are parts of Baulkham Hills Shire that give you the willies -- bricks and rooftops to the horizon, and NO ROOM for trees. Betcha those areas will have higher suicide rates. I don't get it. Are the council stopping people from removing trees, because people are paranoid about them, and removing them willy nilly? Or are the councils forcing people to remove them because the council's paranoid? Here in Victoria, it's very, very hard to get permission to remove trees. I've known of a few people who really wanted to remove just a couple, out of places that were in their way, or would shade the house too much. But they weren't allowed. I think that's gone too far. Jen |
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... and NO ROOM for trees. Betcha those areas will have higher suicide rates. I don't get it. Are the council stopping people from removing trees, because people are paranoid about them, and removing them willy nilly? Or are the councils forcing people to remove them because the council's paranoid? no no - that's the belt with all the mcmansions. there's no room on the blocks for anything once the mcmansion goes up. we went to kellyville to have a gawp one day years ago - i'm still not over it, i don't think i ever will be ;-) kylie |
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"0tterbot" wrote in message ... "Jen" wrote in message ... and NO ROOM for trees. Betcha those areas will have higher suicide rates. I don't get it. Are the council stopping people from removing trees, because people are paranoid about them, and removing them willy nilly? Or are the councils forcing people to remove them because the council's paranoid? no no - that's the belt with all the mcmansions. there's no room on the blocks for anything once the mcmansion goes up. we went to kellyville to have a gawp one day years ago - i'm still not over it, i don't think i ever will be ;-) kylie Aww and I remember kellyville being a sleepy little almost rural area of sydney where my great uncle had goats, extremely aggro geese, and Cousin Len would camp down the back when he was down on his luck.....how times have changed!! |
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"0tterbot" wrote: no no - that's the belt with all the mcmansions. there's no room on the blocks for anything once the mcmansion goes up. we went to kellyville to have a gawp one day years ago - i'm still not over it, i don't think i ever will be ;-) Nor me, especially when I (like Meeeee) remember what it used to look like :-( My Grandma used to say of something disproportionate that it was "like a pimple on a pumpkin". A McMansion on a tiny block looks like a pumpkin on a pimple! -- Chookie -- Sydney, Australia (Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply) "Parenthood is like the modern stone washing process for denim jeans. You may start out crisp, neat and tough, but you end up pale, limp and wrinkled." Kerry Cue |
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"Chookie" wrote in message ... In article , "0tterbot" wrote: no no - that's the belt with all the mcmansions. there's no room on the blocks for anything once the mcmansion goes up. we went to kellyville to have a gawp one day years ago - i'm still not over it, i don't think i ever will be ;-) Nor me, especially when I (like Meeeee) remember what it used to look like :-( My Grandma used to say of something disproportionate that it was "like a pimple on a pumpkin". A McMansion on a tiny block looks like a pumpkin on a pimple! lol absolutely true. It's happening here in cairns too...we have this lovely big mountain behind us, beautifully rainforest and every weekend there seems to be a new white and orange Tuscan style horrible Mc Mansion on it. DH's boss has one up there, but I love him for it because he seems to be the only guy who has a timber and brown colourbond house with trees actually left around it....can't see the house at all. As for the other atrocities...I'm hoping for mudslides. Not deadly ones of course...just enough to thoroughly disenchant them with hillside show off living. Ridiculous. And afaik my great uncle still has his patch of paradise in kellyville...probably much to the disgust of his Gucci clad neighbours. |
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"meeee" wrote in message
... lol absolutely true. It's happening here in cairns too...we have this lovely big mountain behind us, beautifully rainforest and every weekend there seems to be a new white and orange Tuscan style horrible Mc Mansion on it. DH's boss has one up there, but I love him for it because he seems to be the only guy who has a timber and brown colourbond house with trees actually left around it....can't see the house at all. recently, for reasons which are actually irrelevent now, we were looking at what sorts of kit homes etc one could buy. it was often the case that the more pleasant, smaller, subtle houses did not represent "value for money" (cough) as the whoppers. i mean, a house half the size or less was not half the price. (nor really relatively cheaper i think i mean, since some costs are fixed). most of the companies had these horrific monstrosities out the wazoo & only a few small, nice ones. not enough companies had passive solar design or inclusions like solar, or solar hot water, or such as that. it was disappointing to say the least. i can't fathom why developers in australia are allowed to run riot. well, i know why, but it's not acceptable. ffs it doesn't need to be _encouraged_! As for the other atrocities...I'm hoping for mudslides. Not deadly ones of course...just enough to thoroughly disenchant them with hillside show off living. what a grand plan! ;-) Ridiculous. And afaik my great uncle still has his patch of paradise in kellyville...probably much to the disgust of his Gucci clad neighbours. cough i don't think they're wearing gucci, i think they're wearing target cough kylie |
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