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Hi All,

I've only lived in Sydney three years and this is the first year I've
planted beans in the veggie patch. I have two varieties - purple king
climbing beans and yellow bush-form butter beans. Both varieties are
looking unhappy and burnt and aren't growing very much, which makes me
suspect that I planted them too late in the season.
Info:
I'm near Campbelltown (although tend to be a few degrees warmer than
C'town in winter and cooler than C'town in summer)
The beans went in as seeds about two months ago

Could someone with experience in growing beans in Sydney's western
burbs please tell me when the usual bean-planting time of year is so
that next year I can get it right.

Thanks,
Tish

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Hi All,

I've only lived in Sydney three years and this is the first year I've
planted beans in the veggie patch. I have two varieties - purple king
climbing beans and yellow bush-form butter beans. Both varieties are
looking unhappy and burnt and aren't growing very much, which makes me
suspect that I planted them too late in the season.
Info:
I'm near Campbelltown (although tend to be a few degrees warmer than
C'town in winter and cooler than C'town in summer)
The beans went in as seeds about two months ago

Could someone with experience in growing beans in Sydney's western
burbs please tell me when the usual bean-planting time of year is so
that next year I can get it right.


There's a guy I have heard of called Jack, He's used to grow great
big beanstalks.

He had a friend with the nickname of "Giant"

Sorry, don't know if he's in Sydney at the moment though......

Thanks,
Tish


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Tish wrote:

Hi All,

I've only lived in Sydney three years and this is the first year I've
planted beans in the veggie patch. I have two varieties - purple king
climbing beans and yellow bush-form butter beans. Both varieties are
looking unhappy and burnt and aren't growing very much, which makes me
suspect that I planted them too late in the season.


Hi Tish -- no, you have planted the bush beans at the right time, at least (I
am not an expert with climbers). You can plant beans right through summer. I
suspect that yours might be a bit overexposed to sun though, or not getting
enough water. If your garden bed gets lots of westerly sun you might have
trouble keeping things alive -- use shade cloth to protect them.

I'm planning to plant some climbers after the hot weather in February and see
how they go (and I have also been shopping at Diggers).

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Hi All,

I've only lived in Sydney three years and this is the first year I've
planted beans in the veggie patch. I have two varieties - purple king
climbing beans and yellow bush-form butter beans. Both varieties are
looking unhappy and burnt and aren't growing very much, which makes me
suspect that I planted them too late in the season.
Info:
I'm near Campbelltown (although tend to be a few degrees warmer than
C'town in winter and cooler than C'town in summer)
The beans went in as seeds about two months ago

Could someone with experience in growing beans in Sydney's western
burbs please tell me when the usual bean-planting time of year is so
that next year I can get it right.

Thanks,
Tish


Burning of the leaves could be due to some difficiency in the soil. It could
also be caused by water stress. Also caused by salts in ground water, tap
water or the soil. Beans don't like over head watering and it is better to
water in the morning. You need to supply water that will replace the soil
evaporation rate in your area.

I am not in Sydney but suspect you can plant the beans after the last
frosts. They should grow well and produce beans. Temps over 35C make it hard
for pollination of varieties in Perth.

The Department of Ag here knows the planting dates of most vegetables and
the fertiliser requirements. Maybe you should try them there.

If all else fails find an old Italian in your area that grows his own veges.
They are a wealth of info.

Cheers

Richard



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Tish wrote:

I'm near Campbelltown (although tend to be a few degrees warmer than
C'town in winter and cooler than C'town in summer)
The beans went in as seeds about two months ago


does sound a bit late. a;though SWMBO was still planting them and yes
they are growing exceedinly slowly. You really need to keep watering.

yes, local.


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Thanks everyone for your good advice. I suspect that water has been
the problem. We're on tank water and have been having to be careful
until fairly recently - not because of some miraculous rain, but
because we have just installed a system that will pump water up from
the dam to water veggies, so now are able to be more generous with
water onto the plants.

Ta,
Tish

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In article ,
Tish wrote:

Hi All,

I've only lived in Sydney three years and this is the first year I've
planted beans in the veggie patch. I have two varieties - purple king
climbing beans and yellow bush-form butter beans. Both varieties are
looking unhappy and burnt and aren't growing very much, which makes me
suspect that I planted them too late in the season.


Hi Tish -- no, you have planted the bush beans at the right time, at least (I
am not an expert with climbers). You can plant beans right through summer. I
suspect that yours might be a bit overexposed to sun though, or not getting
enough water. If your garden bed gets lots of westerly sun you might have
trouble keeping things alive -- use shade cloth to protect them.

I'm planning to plant some climbers after the hot weather in February and see
how they go (and I have also been shopping at Diggers).


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Tish wrote:
Thanks everyone for your good advice. I suspect that water has been
the problem. We're on tank water and have been having to be careful
until fairly recently - not because of some miraculous rain, but
because we have just installed a system that will pump water up from
the dam to water veggies, so now are able to be more generous with
water onto the plants.

Ta,
Tish

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In article ,
Tish wrote:

Hi All,

I've only lived in Sydney three years and this is the first year I've
planted beans in the veggie patch. I have two varieties - purple king
climbing beans and yellow bush-form butter beans. Both varieties are
looking unhappy and burnt and aren't growing very much, which makes me
suspect that I planted them too late in the season.

Hi Tish -- no, you have planted the bush beans at the right time, at least (I
am not an expert with climbers). You can plant beans right through summer. I
suspect that yours might be a bit overexposed to sun though, or not getting
enough water. If your garden bed gets lots of westerly sun you might have
trouble keeping things alive -- use shade cloth to protect them.

I'm planning to plant some climbers after the hot weather in February and see
how they go (and I have also been shopping at Diggers).


My beans in Melbourne in last weeks heat (38 + 40 plus) are well
watered, and as they prefer hot conditions, are doing well (I thought to
myself poor plants as I sat in 22 c temps and it was sweltering outside.)
But plants seem to cope OK in that if well watered. I will hate to see
when the real summer hits though....
Suggest you find that old italian, or a few young ens if you prefer them.
I actually planted some broad beans (outa season) I wonder how they will
go? Anyone know how they behave ?
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Suggest you find that old italian, or a few young ens if you prefer them.
I actually planted some broad beans (outa season) I wonder how they will
go? Anyone know how they behave ?


afaik, hard to kill! but don't take my word for it.

i'm trying some soybeans out of the bag (eating soybeans). i just wanted to
see if they would come up. since they did, i might plant more for the
chooks!

it's a whole world of bean experiments out there!!!

kylie, whose bush beans are ******** this year. bloody weather.


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Jonno wrote:

Suggest you find that old italian,


Naah, he killed half his tomatoes this year by planting them into a
fresh mixture of chicken and mushroom compost and had to relay on self
seeded ones for replanting. Tried to explain to him that if he was going
to grow them in 10" pots with the bottom cut out, then he would have to
water them each day. Hmm.

I have also found out that mine gets a lot of his gardening "Advice" off
italian gardening shows. Not that helpful here.
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