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Potash for citrus
Hi to all
What would you recommend as a high potash fertiliser for citrus trees? Thanks Sandra |
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Chicken manure, and not the factory pelletised stuff.
Its makes citrus sit up and take notice. "Sandra Bodycoat" wrote in message . au... Hi to all What would you recommend as a high potash fertiliser for citrus trees? Thanks Sandra |
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"Sandra Bodycoat" wrote in message
. au... Hi to all What would you recommend as a high potash fertiliser for citrus trees? Thanks Sandra Jonno wrote: Chicken manure, and not the factory pelletised stuff. Its makes citrus sit up and take notice. Chook poo is good for citrus but it is not high in potassium. If you are sure that potassium is required then the quickest and cheapest source is potassium sulphate. You can buy a 500g packet for $8 or 20kg sack for $40 (IIRC). The sack will last a very long time. It must be applied sparingly and well watered in. I wouldn't be applying it until spring. Despite being synthetic potassium sulphate is an acceptable input according to organic standards. If you picture "organic" meaning synthetic fertiliser is bad then there is no logic to this at all. The reason is most likely that there are very few non-synthetic fertilisers that are high in potassium and most of those are ash which tends to be very alkaline. David |
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Here we go again...
First of all expenerience tells me its chook poo the tree needs. Solve the potassium stuff after the tree fails to respond. That hardly ever the case. If the tree is not producing flowers, then is MAY be a problem. But its usually not the case. Its in need of a tonic. Chook poo has enough. While I cant analyse it from where I'm sitting it pays to start with the essentials. People are always being told that if you want something to flower you should add Potash. No one say how much. The result is the nutrients can get unbalanced. Better to do it safely...Add the other stuf later perhaps, and as David says, preferable spring time, though if the weather is still warm, a light application can help as a tonic till spring...Its usually in the process of shutting down for winter at this point so doesnt require much. .. "David Hare-Scott" wrote in message ... "Sandra Bodycoat" wrote in message . au... Hi to all What would you recommend as a high potash fertiliser for citrus trees? Thanks Sandra Jonno wrote: Chicken manure, and not the factory pelletised stuff. Its makes citrus sit up and take notice. Chook poo is good for citrus but it is not high in potassium. If you are sure that potassium is required then the quickest and cheapest source is potassium sulphate. You can buy a 500g packet for $8 or 20kg sack for $40 (IIRC). The sack will last a very long time. It must be applied sparingly and well watered in. I wouldn't be applying it until spring. Despite being synthetic potassium sulphate is an acceptable input according to organic standards. If you picture "organic" meaning synthetic fertiliser is bad then there is no logic to this at all. The reason is most likely that there are very few non-synthetic fertilisers that are high in potassium and most of those are ash which tends to be very alkaline. David |
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g'day sandra,
as with your other post you don't say where abouts you are locality wise that is. how was the determination made that your citrus need potash? we grow citrus wherever we live and never add anything to our citrus, get good fruit as well we mulch heavily with green type mulches and on odd occassions they get some used water with wee added. On Sun, 16 May 2010 17:10:40 +0800, "Sandra Bodycoat" wrote: snipped -- Matthew 25:13 KJV "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh" len With peace and brightest of blessings, "Be Content With What You Have And May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In A World That You May Not Understand." http://www.lensgarden.com.au/ |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message ... "Sandra Bodycoat" wrote in message . au... Hi to all What would you recommend as a high potash fertiliser for citrus trees? Thanks Sandra Jonno wrote: Chicken manure, and not the factory pelletised stuff. Its makes citrus sit up and take notice. Chook poo is good for citrus but it is not high in potassium. If you are sure that potassium is required then the quickest and cheapest source is potassium sulphate. You can buy a 500g packet for $8 or 20kg sack for $40 (IIRC). The sack will last a very long time. It must be applied sparingly and well watered in. I wouldn't be applying it until spring. Despite being synthetic potassium sulphate is an acceptable input according to organic standards. If you picture "organic" meaning synthetic fertiliser is bad then there is no logic to this at all. The reason is most likely that there are very few non-synthetic fertilisers that are high in potassium and most of those are ash which tends to be very alkaline. David Jonno wrote: Here we go again... Here we go where again? Do you mean jumping to conclusions with too little real information and too little understanding of the matter? Now that you mention it that does sound sort of familiar. First of all expenerience tells me its chook poo the tree needs. And your ESP. You know nothing about the specific situation other than a request was made for potash for citrus. Sandra may or may not know what is wrong but you assume that she doesn't and sight unseen you also assume that it is something that chook poo will fix. Chook is not a panacea for citrus trees. Solve the potassium stuff after the tree fails to respond. That hardly ever the case. If the tree is not producing flowers, then is MAY be a problem. But its usually not the case. Its in need of a tonic. Chook poo has enough. While I cant analyse it from where I'm sitting it pays to start with the essentials. But analysing sight unseen is what you are in fact doing. Why guess? People are always being told that if you want something to flower you should add Potash. Except that we don't know that in this case. It MAY be so that the tree is not flowering. It might be better to ask for clarification rather than jump to conclusions. No one say how much. The result is the nutrients can get unbalanced. Better to do it safely...Add the other stuf later perhaps, and as David says, preferable spring time, though if the weather is still warm, a light application can help as a tonic till spring... Except that this is quite the wrong time to be promoting growth or for making citrus sit up and take notice. A "tonic" now is probably a waste of time and may well do harm. Its usually in the process of shutting down for winter at this point so doesnt require much. You cannot quite make up your mind can you. David |
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I cant make up my mind? No I',m trying to allow for variables. Like you
should, but dont. Neither can the weather. I'm not a cynic. I'm surprised when someone asks regarding something, what problem theyre trying to solve. Being pandantic isnt my modus of operandi. As a problem solver its my way to go. I feel that youre slightly miffed and will do anything to out do me. I try to use broad spectrum approaches. Not narrow approaches. Thats just being silly.... "David Hare-Scott" wrote in message ... . "David Hare-Scott" wrote in message ... "Sandra Bodycoat" wrote in message . au... Hi to all What would you recommend as a high potash fertiliser for citrus trees? Thanks Sandra Jonno wrote: Chicken manure, and not the factory pelletised stuff. Its makes citrus sit up and take notice. Chook poo is good for citrus but it is not high in potassium. If you are sure that potassium is required then the quickest and cheapest source is potassium sulphate. You can buy a 500g packet for $8 or 20kg sack for $40 (IIRC). The sack will last a very long time. It must be applied sparingly and well watered in. I wouldn't be applying it until spring. Despite being synthetic potassium sulphate is an acceptable input according to organic standards. If you picture "organic" meaning synthetic fertiliser is bad then there is no logic to this at all. The reason is most likely that there are very few non-synthetic fertilisers that are high in potassium and most of those are ash which tends to be very alkaline. David Jonno wrote: Here we go again... Here we go where again? Do you mean jumping to conclusions with too little real information and too little understanding of the matter? Now that you mention it that does sound sort of familiar. First of all expenerience tells me its chook poo the tree needs. And your ESP. You know nothing about the specific situation other than a request was made for potash for citrus. Sandra may or may not know what is wrong but you assume that she doesn't and sight unseen you also assume that it is something that chook poo will fix. Chook is not a panacea for citrus trees. Solve the potassium stuff after the tree fails to respond. That hardly ever the case. If the tree is not producing flowers, then is MAY be a problem. But its usually not the case. Its in need of a tonic. Chook poo has enough. While I cant analyse it from where I'm sitting it pays to start with the essentials. But analysing sight unseen is what you are in fact doing. Why guess? People are always being told that if you want something to flower you should add Potash. Except that we don't know that in this case. It MAY be so that the tree is not flowering. It might be better to ask for clarification rather than jump to conclusions. No one say how much. The result is the nutrients can get unbalanced. Better to do it safely...Add the other stuf later perhaps, and as David says, preferable spring time, though if the weather is still warm, a light application can help as a tonic till spring... Except that this is quite the wrong time to be promoting growth or for making citrus sit up and take notice. A "tonic" now is probably a waste of time and may well do harm. Its usually in the process of shutting down for winter at this point so doesnt require much. You cannot quite make up your mind can you. David |
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I cant make up my mind? Neither can the weather....Add the other stuf
later perhaps, and as David says, preferable spring time, though if the weather is still warm, a light application can help as a tonic till spring... No I',m trying to allow for variables. Like you should, but dont. I'm not a cynic. I'm summise when someone asks regarding something, what problem theyre trying to solve. Being pandantic isnt my modus of operandi. As a problem solver my way to go is to solve a problem. I feel that youre slightly miffed and will do anything to out do me. I try to use broad spectrum approaches. Not narrow approaches. Thats just being silly.... As I wrote, it doesnt pay to put a concentrated lot of stuff on when only a small amount plus a generally great fertiliser will do it all. I guess youre still using bulshit... Now boys behave your self... "David Hare-Scott" wrote in message ... . "David Hare-Scott" wrote in message ... "Sandra Bodycoat" wrote in message . au... Hi to all What would you recommend as a high potash fertiliser for citrus trees? Thanks Sandra Jonno wrote: Chicken manure, and not the factory pelletised stuff. Its makes citrus sit up and take notice. Chook poo is good for citrus but it is not high in potassium. If you are sure that potassium is required then the quickest and cheapest source is potassium sulphate. You can buy a 500g packet for $8 or 20kg sack for $40 (IIRC). The sack will last a very long time. It must be applied sparingly and well watered in. I wouldn't be applying it until spring. Despite being synthetic potassium sulphate is an acceptable input according to organic standards. If you picture "organic" meaning synthetic fertiliser is bad then there is no logic to this at all. The reason is most likely that there are very few non-synthetic fertilisers that are high in potassium and most of those are ash which tends to be very alkaline. David Jonno wrote: Here we go again... Here we go where again? Do you mean jumping to conclusions with too little real information and too little understanding of the matter? Now that you mention it that does sound sort of familiar. First of all expenerience tells me its chook poo the tree needs. And your ESP. You know nothing about the specific situation other than a request was made for potash for citrus. Sandra may or may not know what is wrong but you assume that she doesn't and sight unseen you also assume that it is something that chook poo will fix. Chook is not a panacea for citrus trees. Solve the potassium stuff after the tree fails to respond. That hardly ever the case. If the tree is not producing flowers, then is MAY be a problem. But its usually not the case. Its in need of a tonic. Chook poo has enough. While I cant analyse it from where I'm sitting it pays to start with the essentials. But analysing sight unseen is what you are in fact doing. Why guess? People are always being told that if you want something to flower you should add Potash. Except that we don't know that in this case. It MAY be so that the tree is not flowering. It might be better to ask for clarification rather than jump to conclusions. No one say how much. The result is the nutrients can get unbalanced. Better to do it safely...Add the other stuf later perhaps, and as David says, preferable spring time, though if the weather is still warm, a light application can help as a tonic till spring... Except that this is quite the wrong time to be promoting growth or for making citrus sit up and take notice. A "tonic" now is probably a waste of time and may well do harm. Its usually in the process of shutting down for winter at this point so doesnt require much. You cannot quite make up your mind can you. David |
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I live in Perth, and I was reading the gardening section of the weekend paper and in there to do list was add potash to citrus, thus my question. My trees have flowers & plenty of fruit on them and I do fairly regularly fertilise them with a citrus fertiliser (thrive) and add seasol. Sorry for not giving more information before asking the question. Sandra "gardenlen" wrote in message ... g'day sandra, as with your other post you don't say where abouts you are locality wise that is. how was the determination made that your citrus need potash? we grow citrus wherever we live and never add anything to our citrus, get good fruit as well we mulch heavily with green type mulches and on odd occassions they get some used water with wee added. On Sun, 16 May 2010 17:10:40 +0800, "Sandra Bodycoat" wrote: snipped -- Matthew 25:13 KJV "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh" len With peace and brightest of blessings, "Be Content With What You Have And May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In A World That You May Not Understand." http://www.lensgarden.com.au/ |
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g'day sandra,
for us we grow natural organic that is we do nothing unless the plants show signs of something, any man made fertiliser does not fit into our organic practises and we don't see it as being sustainable, and so far we have never needed them we get fruit enough from our citrus and always have done. but gardeners make their own choices. what is written in books and magazines all done to promote some product or other, especially tv shows. On Mon, 17 May 2010 14:06:29 +0800, "Sandra Bodycoat" wrote: snipped -- Matthew 25:13 KJV "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh" len With peace and brightest of blessings, "Be Content With What You Have And May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In A World That You May Not Understand." http://www.lensgarden.com.au/ |
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Youre doing all thats needed for your citrus.
What I said before (chicken manure) works wonderfully, and I've never had any problems with citrus. Seeing your local paper advised feeding it with potash, a light feed of chicken manure would be advisable. No point to overdo at the moment. |
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Jonno wrote:
Youre doing all thats needed for your citrus. What I said before (chicken manure) works wonderfully, and I've never had any problems with citrus. Seeing your local paper advised feeding it with potash, a light feed of chicken manure would be advisable. Next spring David |
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I, Jonno wrote:
Youre doing all thats needed for your citrus. What I said before (chicken manure) works wonderfully, and I've never had any problems with citrus. Seeing your local paper advised feeding it with potash, a light feed of chicken manure would be advisable. You David wrote: Next spring David David, I wrote : Spring? Your solutions to save the world start then...or is it to take over the world....? Didn't you read that? '"Seeing your local paper advised " It is immediately apparent you don't know about Perth weather growing conditions. See much further below. Its not advised to add anything that may affect the growth of a tree by adding something that may acidify the soil by itself. Potash of sulphate does that. That's why a balanced fertiliser is preferable. It is because she's living where the climate is a little warmer at times. even now perhaps? This is further below From a Perth site Autumn in Perth: Autumn begins in March and finishes at the end of May, although autumn in Perth is not typical of autumns most people would be familiar with. Autumn in Perth is like an extension of summer, or perhaps a second spring. With warm sunny days and cooler nights, there is still plenty of sunshine left before the onset of winter. Although the weather is still mostly fine, there may be an occasional shower or humidity. Average Autumn Temperatures March: Daytime 27-30C Overnight Minimum 15-18C April: Daytime 24-27C Overnight Minimum 12-15C May: Daytime 21-24C Overnight Minimum 9-12C Winter in Perth: The mild Perth winter begins at the start of June and finishes at the end of August. It is generally a rainy season, mingled with cool sunny days. There are however occasional storms, characterised by downpours of rain, lightning or thunder. Average Winter Temperatures June: Daytime 18-21C Overnight Minimum 9-12C July: Daytime 15-18C Overnight Minimum 6-9C Taking local conditions into consideration I would assume the Newspaper is right about applying some fertiliser. But potasium sulphate is only needed in small amounts. Persistantly informed your friend Jonno I have many sauces And sources too! |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message ... Jonno wrote: Youre doing all thats needed for your citrus. What I said before (chicken manure) works wonderfully, and I've never had any problems with citrus. Seeing your local paper advised feeding it with potash, a light feed of chicken manure would be advisable. Next spring David |
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Persistantly informed your friend Jonno Persistently painful is more like it. |
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