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Old 14-03-2005, 09:58 AM
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After planting many native plants, grasses and ferns, frogs seem to be
making a comeback to our yard. What I'm wondering is, to what extent is the
chlorine and whatever else from our tap water (in Canberra) harming them.
From what I understood, it doesn't do them any good, but I give the ferns
etc a quick water regularly and assuming the frogs occasionally get wet from
it, they seem to be coping with it. At least so far anyway - maybe it's a
cumulative thing?

Thanks for any advice,
Scott.

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Old 15-03-2005, 05:30 AM
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G'day magoo,
I understand that chlorine quickly dissipates from water, especially in sun
light and thats why pools need daily top-ups . So if you are worried about
it, just fill a watering can one day and use it the next, then refill it for
the next day. I seem to recall that tap water used for aqariums only needed
to be 'aged' 24 hrs for safe use.

China
Wingham
NSW





After planting many native plants, grasses and ferns, frogs seem to be
making a comeback to our yard. What I'm wondering is, to what extent is

the
chlorine and whatever else from our tap water (in Canberra) harming them.
From what I understood, it doesn't do them any good, but I give the ferns
etc a quick water regularly and assuming the frogs occasionally get wet

from
it, they seem to be coping with it. At least so far anyway - maybe it's a
cumulative thing?

Thanks for any advice,
Scott.



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"China" wrote...
I understand that chlorine quickly dissipates from water,


True, I have heard that too. However, chloramines take a little longer to
dissipate I believe.

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Old 15-03-2005, 11:42 AM
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The occasional watering hasn't done my yard frogs any harm, but NEVER
use hose water in their ponds. Fill a few buckets and store it for a
couple of days.

In any case, in ponds we really need to start using fish which will deal
with mozzy larvae, but leave (some of) the newly hatched taddies alone.
Only aged water will not kill these fishies. (Make sure they're from Oz
and not a dreaded imported species.)

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Old 15-03-2005, 12:26 PM
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Doyley wrote:
The occasional watering hasn't done my yard frogs any harm, but NEVER
use hose water in their ponds. Fill a few buckets and store it for a
couple of days.

In any case, in ponds we really need to start using fish which will deal
with mozzy larvae, but leave (some of) the newly hatched taddies alone.
Only aged water will not kill these fishies. (Make sure they're from Oz
and not a dreaded imported species.)

M


Chlorine in tap water can be rid of by aerating the water - for how long
depends on the source of the aerator. The aeration really is to keep the
water stirred so that the chlorine escapes. If you pour water from the
tap into a bucket at some force you will smell the chlorine escaping, so
aerating will speed up the escape of the chlorine. Don't forget also that
sunlight destroys the chlorine which is why you have to keep adding it
to the swimming pool.

Using a hose with a nozzle and hosing the water into a largish container
you will be already getting rid of the chlorine so if the water is hosed
into the container and then runs into the pond it already has lost a lot
of the chlorine and if the pond is big enough whatever is left will get
mixed into the existing water and not affect anything in the water.

What one should REALLY watch out for is if you move into a house with
new plumbing installed. With the new copper piping the water is a deadly
poison to fish etc - copper poisoning. I lost a complete tropical fish
acquarium with some very expensive and much loved fish because of this:
moved into a new house and filled the acquarium with water from the
house rather than bringing it in from the old house. If memory serves me
well, it takes about 3 - 4 weeks for the water supply to become
'friendly' (people may want to correct me about this).



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"Doyley" wrote in message
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The occasional watering hasn't done my yard frogs any harm, but NEVER
use hose water in their ponds. Fill a few buckets and store it for a
couple of days.

In any case, in ponds we really need to start using fish which will deal
with mozzy larvae, but leave (some of) the newly hatched taddies alone.
Only aged water will not kill these fishies. (Make sure they're from Oz
and not a dreaded imported species.)


Just on that note, apparently some fish called "white clouds" will do this,
get rid of the mozzie larvae that is, but leave tadpoles alone.
Getting a little off topic here, but does anyone have any info on European
Carp v's Koi carp in the way of identification?
Cutting a long story short, I have been told the carp in a dam at work are
European carp, but from what I have seen, they aren't. But then again, Koi
carp have whiskers, from pics I've seen, which these in the dam don't. The
ones in the dam are coloured, looking a little like very oversize goldfish.
Yes I'm on the net, yes I should look it up, but just asking here first :-)
time for bed.
Cheers
Andrew

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Old 17-03-2005, 10:48 AM
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In article ,
"Andrew G" wrote:

Getting a little off topic here, but does anyone have any info on European
Carp v's Koi carp in the way of identification?
Cutting a long story short, I have been told the carp in a dam at work are
European carp, but from what I have seen, they aren't.


European carp are duller-coloured and are meatier -- closer to a snapper in
shape than the torpedo shape of koi. Good eating too, despite what people say.

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"Andrew G" writes:
Cutting a long story short, I have been told the carp in a dam at work are
European carp, but from what I have seen, they aren't. But then again, Koi
carp have whiskers, from pics I've seen, which these in the dam don't. The
ones in the dam are coloured, looking a little like very oversize goldfish.


Perhaps they really are goldfish? If you liberate unwanted goldfish into
a waterway they grow to their natural size--enormous, for they are a
member of the carp family.
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"Andrew G" writes:
Cutting a long story short, I have been told the carp in a dam at work

are
European carp, but from what I have seen, they aren't. But then again,

Koi
carp have whiskers, from pics I've seen, which these in the dam don't.

The
ones in the dam are coloured, looking a little like very oversize

goldfish.

Perhaps they really are goldfish? If you liberate unwanted goldfish into
a waterway they grow to their natural size--enormous, for they are a
member of the carp family.
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)


That's what I'm thinking. Apparently they were put in when the development
started (7 yrs ago approx). A huge damn, with aquatic plants keep them fed
well. They are a torpedo shape as Chookie suggests.
About 3 yrs ago we had the waterways (I think) came up with a boat that had
rods going into the water to electrically charge the water. Some fish got
zapped, were scooped out, taken away for ident, but nothing more was said.
There are plenty still left there. We had noticed they eat the duckweed and
it was suggested they get put in other dams that lead to the main dam to rid
the duckweed, but no-one did "cos it's illegal to catch these and put them
back in the water, or another water catchment", no one was game to do it and
be held responsible.
Thanks for the help


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