I got a handful of ginkos from a freind who'd gathered them as weeds.
Thanks, Kyle, if you're reading this.
Since they're all little thin things without much foliage, I've
decided to conduct a scientific experiment on thickening trunks, since
I have no idea what works best. The first ginko i've planted in an 8 in
square pot (the rest are in 4 inch round pots). Admittedly, it was the
thickest one of the lot. the second one i'll flex every time I water
(i have too much time on my hands) The next one I was going to scarify,
on another I'll try the pins idea. That's four. I have three more that
I could use ideas on.
Although, since they grew as weeds, they've got foliage only on the top
third, no sacraficial branches availible. They're actually more like
sticks with leaves on top. They're all between 20 and 28 cm tall, with
trunks half a centimeter or less. (see why I want to try this?) I'll
measure them every week. Any suggestions on alternate techniques would
be appreciated. I'll keep everyone posted!

"graft" the remaing trunks together.

Kits

BlueHippo wrote:
I got a handful of ginkos from a freind who'd gathered them as weeds.
Thanks, Kyle, if you're reading this.
Since they're all little thin things without much foliage, I've
decided to conduct a scientific experiment on thickening trunks, since
I have no idea what works best. The first ginko i've planted in an 8 in
square pot (the rest are in 4 inch round pots). Admittedly, it was the
thickest one of the lot. the second one i'll flex every time I water
(i have too much time on my hands) The next one I was going to scarify,
on another I'll try the pins idea. That's four. I have three more that
I could use ideas on.
Although, since they grew as weeds, they've got foliage only on the top
third, no sacraficial branches availible. They're actually more like
sticks with leaves on top. They're all between 20 and 28 cm tall, with
trunks half a centimeter or less. (see why I want to try this?) I'll
measure them every week. Any suggestions on alternate techniques would
be appreciated. I'll keep everyone posted!

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What do you mean, graft, exactly? I've heard of grafting as a method
for getting difficult cuttings to grow on a related species, but I
haven't tried it before. Do you mean grafting two trunks together? I'm
not entirely sure how that will work.

I was hoping someone else would take this up for you.

I think this is how it goes: You take a strip of bark off the trees lengthwise. Put these sections to the inside and bind the trees together. Eventually the trunks will fuse.

Kits

BlueHippo wrote:
What do you mean, graft, exactly? I've heard of grafting as a method
for getting difficult cuttings to grow on a related species, but I
haven't tried it before. Do you mean grafting two trunks together? I'm
not entirely sure how that will work.



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Actually for many young trees, no stripping is neccessary, simply surround
the trunks with tapes.
I have developed trees this way with trident and Japanese maples as well as
hornbeams.
Pauline

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I was hoping someone else would take this up for you.

I think this is how it goes: You take a strip of bark off the trees
lengthwise. Put these sections to the inside and bind the trees together.
Eventually the trunks will fuse.

Kits

BlueHippo wrote:
What do you mean, graft, exactly? I've heard of grafting as a method
for getting difficult cuttings to grow on a related species, but I
haven't tried it before. Do you mean grafting two trunks together? I'm
not entirely sure how that will work.



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On Aug 30, 2005, at 5:47 PM, Kitsune Miko wrote:

I was hoping someone else would take this up for you.

I think this is how it goes: You take a strip of bark off the trees
lengthwise. Put these sections to the inside and bind the trees
together. Eventually the trunks will fuse.

Kits


I've got two zelkovas I plan to do this with next spring. Each has a
one-sided root base, and together they should make a good tree.

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

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On Aug 30, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Pauline Muth wrote:

Actually for many young trees, no stripping is neccessary, simply
surround
the trunks with tapes.
I have developed trees this way with trident and Japanese maples as
well as
hornbeams.
Pauline


For the zelkovas, I'm thinking I should take a slice off of the sides
I'm going to join. Each tree is about 1.5" at the base. Should I just
bind them together and let them sit for a couple of years?

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

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experiment....if the trees are young, I think they will bind

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On Aug 30, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Pauline Muth wrote:

Actually for many young trees, no stripping is neccessary, simply
surround
the trunks with tapes.
I have developed trees this way with trident and Japanese maples as
well as
hornbeams.
Pauline


For the zelkovas, I'm thinking I should take a slice off of the sides
I'm going to join. Each tree is about 1.5" at the base. Should I just
bind them together and let them sit for a couple of years?

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

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Yes, the cut stops them from growing round.

Kits

Craig Cowing wrote:
On Aug 30, 2005, at 5:45 PM, Pauline Muth wrote:

Actually for many young trees, no stripping is neccessary, simply
surround
the trunks with tapes.
I have developed trees this way with trident and Japanese maples as
well as
hornbeams.
Pauline


For the zelkovas, I'm thinking I should take a slice off of the sides
I'm going to join. Each tree is about 1.5" at the base. Should I just
bind them together and let them sit for a couple of years?

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

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Dont measure the trunks every week. It will only lead to frustration. Do it once a month, or quarterly so you can see any difference.
The best of all techniques for thickening trunks in bonsai is to plant it on a garden bed outside. Let them grow there for several years, and dig them up back to bonsai training whn the desired thickness has been reached. Allow it to grow freely, specially the leader (apex/top branch).You will cut it down later. If it takes 1 year or 10 will depend on how thick you want the trunk to get.
That's what chinese comercial bonsai growers are doing to speed up the process and obtain large trunks on their trees.
This will work many times faster than "torturing" (is a joke!) your trees by scaring and pinching them.
If you dont have a garden then use a very large plant pot.
Do it with at least one of them and compare.
Hope this get you the result you wanted.
Gene

Craig Cowing wrote:


For the zelkovas, I'm thinking I should take a slice off of the sides
I'm going to join. Each tree is about 1.5" at the base. Should I just
bind them together and let them sit for a couple of years?


at lest and more
and apply grafting paste to avoid water
leaking in between, and fasten with raffia. keep
it protected all time until merged