In a message dated 5/7/2003 12:58:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
-NAB writes:

Is there a place on the web that lists climate zones with a map?

I live in North Carolina. I see people use zones in discussion quite a bit
but I've no clue as to what Zone I'm actually in.

The zone are from the USDA and they are really used mostly for the average
last date of frost in a given area. We use them to get a general idea of
growing conditions. Many plant catalogs list zone with the plants they sell.
(Hardy in zones 5-9) Since I live in the southern extreme of Zone 9 this
plant will probably not like my summers. Check this link A HREF="http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/ushzmap.html"
http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/ushzmap.html/A Your are Zone 8 or 7
depending upon how close to the coast you are.
Billy on the Florida Space Coast

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Is there a place on the web that lists climate zones with a
map?

I live in North Carolina. I see people use zones in discussion
quite a bit
but I've no clue as to what Zone I'm actually in.



Go here. http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/ushzmap.html

NC has so many zones, you need to tell us where in NC --
mountains, piedmont, or coast.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Our life is
frittered away by detail . . . . Simplify! Simplify. -- Henry
David Thoreau - Walden

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The zone are from the USDA and they are really used mostly for the average
last date of frost in a given area.

I'm afraid you don't have it quite right. The USDA climate zones are not
related to frost dates. These zones are only related to the average minimum
winter temperature. In zone 9 your average minimum winter temperature is
between 20 and 30 F.
I had a discussion with Diane Valevanis recently. I was over at Bill's for a
workshop on April 21 and I said, "Only two more weeks to frost-free date." She
disputed that, because their spring frost-free date isn't until the second week
in May, and they aren't in the clear until almost Memorial Day. I went home &
looked it up. I'm in USDA Zone 5, Sunset Zone 40, while Rochester is in USDA
Zone 6, Sunset Zone 39. Sure enough, their spring frost-free date is later than
ours, & so is their fall frost-free date. It is probably due to being closer to
Lake Ontario, so the air & water warm up slower in the spring & cool down
slower in the fall. Yet because the ground never freezes as cold in Zone 6 as
it does in Zone 5, spring blooming bulbs & trees are always earlier in Zone 6.
I tried to access the draft of the new USDA Zone map, which is a PDF file, but
my computer choked on it.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)

The Farmer's Almanac says that the way to dermine final frost dates is to
look at the oak trees. When the leaves reach the size of a mouse's ear,
it's safe to plant annuals.
Not bad advice, don't you think?
Marty
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From: "Iris Cohen"
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 8:23 AM
Subject: [IBC] Zone Info:


The zone are from the USDA and they are really used mostly for the
average
last date of frost in a given area.

I'm afraid you don't have it quite right. The USDA climate zones are not
related to frost dates. These zones are only related to the average
minimum
winter temperature. In zone 9 your average minimum winter temperature is
between 20 and 30 F.
I had a discussion with Diane Valevanis recently. I was over at Bill's for
a
workshop on April 21 and I said, "Only two more weeks to frost-free date."
She
disputed that, because their spring frost-free date isn't until the second
week
in May, and they aren't in the clear until almost Memorial Day. I went
home &
looked it up. I'm in USDA Zone 5, Sunset Zone 40, while Rochester is in
USDA
Zone 6, Sunset Zone 39. Sure enough, their spring frost-free date is later
than
ours, & so is their fall frost-free date. It is probably due to being
closer to
Lake Ontario, so the air & water warm up slower in the spring & cool down
slower in the fall. Yet because the ground never freezes as cold in Zone 6
as
it does in Zone 5, spring blooming bulbs & trees are always earlier in
Zone 6.
I tried to access the draft of the new USDA Zone map, which is a PDF file,
but
my computer choked on it.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)


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When the leaves reach the size of a
mouse's ear, it's safe to plant annuals. Not bad advice, don't you
think? Marty

In Florida our oaks are evergreen.

You must have GIGANTIC mice!

joe

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