Hi Shireen,

Bending "in increments over a long period of time" really is not a good
technique. The branch should be bent to its desired position (or a bit
overcompensated for future repositioning) and left at that. Making multiple
bends over time will either kill the branch or will cause an ugly swelling.

As Yoda said, "Do or don't do. There is no try." ;-)))

Kind regards,
Andy Rutledge
www.bunjindesign.com/bonsai/
zone 8, Texas

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From: "Shireen Gonzaga"
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If she made the curves by bending in increments over a long
period of time, or by bending a young pliable branch, it
must have taken a long time to get that marvelous result.
Wow! Bonsai is about being patient, something I'm not very
good at.... :-)
cheers,
shireen

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What about all of the special clamps and the wiring techniques that call for
slowly increasing the amount of bend over time? I'm confused.

Jeff Isom
Cleveland, OH / Sunset Zone 39

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Subject: [IBC] Wiring for literati - bending


Hi Shireen,

Bending "in increments over a long period of time" really is not a good
technique. The branch should be bent to its desired position (or a bit
overcompensated for future repositioning) and left at that. Making multiple
bends over time will either kill the branch or will cause an ugly swelling.

As Yoda said, "Do or don't do. There is no try." ;-)))

Kind regards,
Andy Rutledge
www.bunjindesign.com/bonsai/
zone 8, Texas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shireen Gonzaga"
snip
If she made the curves by bending in increments over a long
period of time, or by bending a young pliable branch, it
must have taken a long time to get that marvelous result.
Wow! Bonsai is about being patient, something I'm not very
good at.... :-)
cheers,
shireen

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Hi Jeff,

Those are for bending over a period of hours, not weeks or months. When
bending a large branch or thick trunk on a pine, for instance, it is usually
advisable to prolong the movement over a period of hours so that the
structural wood has a chance to bend rather than break all at once.

The idea of a turnbuckle that is cranked in increments over time is not for
severe bends, but for large diameter repositioning, like bringing a branch
down over a few months. The principle is the same. However, for the abrupt
movement that often characterizes bunjin (literati) stylings, repeated
repositioning over time is useless and/or dangerous.

Hope this helps.

Kind regards,
Andy Rutledge
www.bunjindesign.com/bonsai/
zone 8, Texas

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From: "Isom, Jeff (EM, PTL)"
What about all of the special clamps and the wiring techniques that call
for
slowly increasing the amount of bend over time? I'm confused.
Jeff Isom
Cleveland, OH / Sunset Zone 39l +++++

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Hi Shireen,

Bending "in increments over a long period of time" really is
not a good
technique. The branch should be bent to its desired position
(or a bit
overcompensated for future repositioning) and left at that.
Making multiple
bends over time will either kill the branch or will cause an
ugly swelling.


Well, that kinda depends on the species, eh? Azalea -- to name
just one -- often can be sharply bent ONLY in increments, and
over several years. Most deciduous trees are more forgiving. It
is no doubt true that if you CAN bend it all at once, that's the
best way. But Buxus, Maclura, Vaccinium, Celtis and other very
hard woods often take a bit more time than that to reach their
ultimate shape -- and without dying or bulging.

I think she was talking about tropicals -- ficus and the like --
and I have no idea how they would take to incremental bending (or
anything else, much).

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - The phrase
'sustainable growth' is an oxymoron. - Stephen Viederman

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