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[IBC] Trident Maple Extensions
You've already had some good suggestions but I can make another
observation. "Maples of the World" lists at least 29 A buergerianum sub-species and varieties. Bonsai are rarely received as named varieties though. I have Tridents from five different sources. They all have very slight differences in their growth habit and one has proved to be very difficult. This one has a generally smaller and slightly more pointed leaf with the side lobes reduced. It also emerges a deeper reddish hue than the often pink/red new leaves. This one is extremely slow growing even when printed in the ground, for me at least. It usually pushes about an inch or two on some of the more vigorous areas. My others types of Trident can easily put on over a metre of shoot extension in a season. These are both in growing beds in the ground and with unfettered growth to thicken the lower trunk. A friend's tree suffers the same sort of dieback that you described and he has regularly had to reduce it massively to cut out the dead wood. I'd try some cuttings from a different source. You may find that rapidly overtake your slow/sickly one. (if it hasn't already succumbed to Verticillium Wilt :-() Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales Stuart Gill wrote: Hi All I have a Trident Maple that looks pretty healthy except it suffers from some dieback each year, the main problem I have with it is the new extension growth is withered and brown and very slow to develop into new extensions if at all - in fact I there are new shoots this year but none have actually extended instead I have loads of withered looking buds, after about four months of the growing season. I also have another Trident right next to it of the same age in the same medium, but this one is quite happy to produce new extensions that are now nearly three feet long in the last four months. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas. Many thanks in advance. Stuart ************************************************** ********************** ******** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ********************** ******** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/2003 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] Trident Maple Extensions
Hi Kevin
I have seen pictures of trident with colored leaves others than just red dish and green and I think that might be quite appealing to get one.. I wonder if they are already on sale I have found in my( not personall of course:-) ) botanic park a variety of tridents one is labelled Trident from Creta and the leaves are just like buergerianum quite small but leathery like bay leaves and is a perennial keeps leaves on in winter I am going to collect seeds , if the weather will be a little rainy hopefully,as I am afraid might be strile because of the heat weave.. i you are interested an as you are in England I guess it might be possible ..With the States eregulations would be more complicate Moreover I have found another without gardent ag that is much similar to Burger but drooping branches and the bark is straight strained grey silver as shouild be but slightly orange in between teh cracks .. the normar burger peels in orange plaques when old if I am not wrong Do not have a digital camera yet ( I cannot make up my mind which one to buy) otherwise it could be interesting to exchange some shots i can send you a scan of the Burger from Creta with seed ponds as I have it friendly Theo kevin bailey wrote: You've already had some good suggestions but I can make another observation. "Maples of the World" lists at least 29 A buergerianum sub-species and varieties. Bonsai are rarely received as named varieties though. I have Tridents from five different sources. They all have very slight differences in their growth habit and one has proved to be very difficult. This one has a generally smaller and slightly more pointed leaf with the side lobes reduced. It also emerges a deeper reddish hue than the often pink/red new leaves. This one is extremely slow growing even when printed in the ground, for me at least. It usually pushes about an inch or two on some of the more vigorous areas. My others types of Trident can easily put on over a metre of shoot extension in a season. These are both in growing beds in the ground and with unfettered growth to thicken the lower trunk. A friend's tree suffers the same sort of dieback that you described and he has regularly had to reduce it massively to cut out the dead wood. I'd try some cuttings from a different source. You may find that rapidly overtake your slow/sickly one. (if it hasn't already succumbed to Verticillium Wilt :-() Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales Stuart Gill wrote: Hi All I have a Trident Maple that looks pretty healthy except it suffers from some dieback each year, the main problem I have with it is the new extension growth is withered and brown and very slow to develop into new extensions if at all - in fact I there are new shoots this year but none have actually extended instead I have loads of withered looking buds, after about four months of the growing season. I also have another Trident right next to it of the same age in the same medium, but this one is quite happy to produce new extensions that are now nearly three feet long in the last four months. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas. Many thanks in advance. Stuart ************************************************** ********************** ******** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ********************** ******** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/2003 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ -- * Think like an Alien &discovery your own planet* |
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[IBC] Trident Maple Extensions
In my limited experience, it sounds like you have a root zone problem.
Have you looked at the roots lately? When was it last repotted, etc. more info might help the more expert Bonsaist among us. Carl L. Rosner - near Atlantic City zone 6/7 http://bmee.net/rosner http://www.jamesbaird.com/cgi-bin/Ja...d=00000068 48 Stuart Gill wrote: Hi All I have a Trident Maple that looks pretty healthy except it suffers from some dieback each year, the main problem I have with it is the new extension growth is withered and brown and very slow to develop into new extensions if at all - in fact I there are new shoots this year but none have actually extended instead I have loads of withered looking buds, after about four months of the growing season. I also have another Trident right next to it of the same age in the same medium, but this one is quite happy to produce new extensions that are now nearly three feet long in the last four months. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas. Many thanks in advance. Stuart ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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