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03-08-2003, 07:03 PM
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[IBC] Rice Hulls
The head of the local bonsai society was telling me the other day that
he uses rice hulls more than fir bark in his mix now. Though he still puts some bark in the mix, the organic component is still predominately rice hulls. He uses a soil amendment called Kelloggs Amend which is about 70% rice hulls. After researching on the web, it appears to be comparible to fir bark in air space and water retention. I did notice that one study showed that it slowly releases Nitrogen, Phosphorus and Potassium as it decomposes, though it does break down very slowly. Does anyone have any experience with it? Brian Zone 12 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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03-08-2003, 08:22 PM
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[IBC] Rice Hulls
Brian,
Before you use it on good trees. I would try an experiment to see how fast this breaks down as part of a soil mix. Coccoa hulls for one breaks down very fast into a mush. Jerry Meislik Whitefish Montana USA Zone 4-5 http://www.bonsaihunk.8m.com/ The head of the local bonsai society was telling me the other day that he uses rice hulls more than fir bark in his mix now. Though he still puts some bark in the mix, the organic component is still predominately rice hulls. He uses a soil amendment called Kelloggs Amend which is about 70% rice hulls. After researching on the web, it appears to be comparible to fir bark in air space and water retention. I did notice that one study showed that it slowly releases Nitrogen, Phosphorus and Potassium as it decomposes, though it does break down very slowly. Does anyone have any experience with it? Brian Zone 12 ************************************************** **************************** ** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** **************************** ** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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03-08-2003, 10:12 PM
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[IBC] Rice Hulls
My neighbor worked for a research lab on a project of what to do with rice
hulls. We dug bags and bags of them in to our adobe soil. Took a couple of years to break down. There were some interesting fungi growing on them and I am still growing rice weeds 10 years later. Recently planted that area and there is no sign of organic matter being added to that soil. Kitsune Miko At 01:01 PM 8/3/2003 -0600, Jerry Meislik wrote: Brian, Before you use it on good trees. I would try an experiment to see how fast this breaks down as part of a soil mix. Coccoa hulls for one breaks down very fast into a mush. Jerry Meislik Whitefish Montana USA Zone 4-5 http://www.bonsaihunk.8m.com/ The head of the local bonsai society was telling me the other day that he uses rice hulls more than fir bark in his mix now. Though he still puts some bark in the mix, the organic component is still predominately rice hulls. He uses a soil amendment called Kelloggs Amend which is about 70% rice hulls. After researching on the web, it appears to be comparible to fir bark in air space and water retention. I did notice that one study showed that it slowly releases Nitrogen, Phosphorus and Potassium as it decomposes, though it does break down very slowly. Does anyone have any experience with it? Brian Zone 12 ************************************************** **************************** ** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** **************************** ** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************* ******************************* ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************* ******************************* -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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03-08-2003, 10:22 PM
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[IBC] Rice Hulls
I live in an area that grows a large percentage of the rice for California.
Every year we have to suffer through the smoke and haze created by the rice farmers when they burn their fields after harvesting. They claim the rice hulls take years to break down if left alone to decompose naturally. So there may be some truth to the thought that they would work well in bonsai soil. --I crucified my hate and held the world within my hands-- Neal Ross-Marysville CA ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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04-08-2003, 12:44 AM
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[IBC] Rice Hulls
I just have to ask, Brian. Do your bonsai go snap, crackle, and pop?!? ;-)
Alan Walker, Lake Charles, LA, USA http://LCBSBonsai.org http://bonsai-bci.com ================================ Brian Berggoetz wrote: The head of the local bonsai society was telling me the other day that he uses rice hulls more than fir bark in his mix now. Though he still puts some bark in the mix, the organic component is still predominately rice hulls. He uses a soil amendment called Kellogg's Amend which is about 70% rice hulls. After researching on the web, it appears to be comparable to fir bark in air space and water retention. I did notice that one study showed that it slowly releases Nitrogen, Phosphorus and Potassium as it decomposes, though it does break down very slowly. Does anyone have any experience with it? Brian Zone 12 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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04-08-2003, 03:11 AM
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[IBC] Rice Hulls
The head of the local bonsai society was telling me the other
day that he uses rice hulls more than fir bark in his mix now. Though he still puts some bark in the mix, the organic component is still predominately rice hulls. He uses a soil amendment called Kelloggs Amend which is about 70% rice hulls. After researching on the web, it appears to be comparible to fir bark in air space and water retention. I did notice that one study showed that it slowly releases Nitrogen, Phosphorus and Potassium as it decomposes, though it does break down very slowly. Does anyone have any experience with it? Brian Zone 12 Hmmmm. I did a simple (non-Google) web search for Kelloggs Amend and came up with a dozen marijuana-growing sites. ;-) Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - "People, when Columbus discovered this country, it was plum full of nuts and berries. And I'm right here to tell you the berries are just about all gone." -- Uncle Dave Macon, old-time musician ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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04-08-2003, 03:13 AM
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[IBC] Rice Hulls
The head of the local bonsai society was telling me the other
day that he uses rice hulls more than fir bark in his mix now. Though he still puts some bark in the mix, the organic component is still predominately rice hulls. He uses a soil amendment called Kelloggs Amend which is about 70% rice hulls. After researching on the web, it appears to be comparible to fir bark in air space and water retention. I did notice that one study showed that it slowly releases Nitrogen, Phosphorus and Potassium as it decomposes, though it does break down very slowly. Does anyone have any experience with it? Brian Zone 12 Hmmmm. I did a simple (non-Google) web search for Kelloggs Amend and came up with a dozen marijuana-growing sites. ;-) Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - "People, when Columbus discovered this country, it was plum full of nuts and berries. And I'm right here to tell you the berries are just about all gone." -- Uncle Dave Macon, old-time musician ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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04-08-2003, 03:22 AM
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[IBC] Rice Hulls
He uses a soil amendment called Kelloggs Amend which is about 70% rice
hulls. Where can I get it? Or very fine fir bark? Iris Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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04-08-2003, 05:42 AM
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[IBC] Rice Hulls
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Walker" Subject: [IBC] Rice Hulls I just have to ask, Brian. Do your bonsai go snap, crackle, and pop?!? ;-) Only when he bends branches. ;-) ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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04-08-2003, 04:42 PM
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[IBC] Rice Hulls
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lewis" Subject: [IBC] Rice Hulls Hmmmm. I did a simple (non-Google) web search for Kelloggs Amend and came up with a dozen marijuana-growing sites. ;-) Jim Lewis That's for the new cereal "Dragon Puffs" ! :) Maybe you should send those sites to FDA and ATF, maybe they need to know? Dale ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Mike Page ++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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