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[IBC] do plants use vitamins? (Yes they certainly do)
Yes, plants do have a need for vitamins.
It is a small contribution to the overall health of the tree, where the major nutrients are the well-known NPK. But also microorganisms, and vitamins are a part of the palette of foods for plants. As well as the Mykhorriza fungi has influenze of the health of Pines and maybe other species. Vitamins can be added very simple, and the only vitamin of importance, is the B-vitamin. It is easily taken by the leaves and can be sprinkled on. Take a low alcoholic beer, and blend it with water 1:1. It is as simple as that. There are plenty of B-vitamins in a beer, and this is a good old trick used to add vitamins to orchids, wich are in need of these vitamins. But it is also a very good solution for bonsais as well. Remember to keep a beer for your self. Also humans needs B-vitamins! And now to the Superthrive question. You will only find out the real effect of this, by making your own experiences. I newer use it. The beer does it for me. I use the 1:1 beer and water blend, every time I spray leaves with water, for the first month after transplanting a bonsai. And that is two or tree times a week fo a month or so. In daily care, I use it frequently, in a milder blend. Especially Pines are good at taking up nutrients true their leaves, but it won´t harm any plants, but only do good. |
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[IBC] do plants use vitamins? (Yes they certainly do)
Yes, plants do have a need for vitamins.
It is a small contribution to the overall health of the tree, where the major nutrients are the well-known NPK. But also microorganisms, and vitamins are a part of the palette of foods for plants. As well as the Mykhorriza fungi has influenze of the health of Pines and maybe other species. Vitamins can be added very simple, and the only vitamin of importance, is the B-vitamin. It is easily taken by the leaves and can be sprinkled on. Take a low alcoholic beer, and blend it with water 1:1. It is as simple as that. There are plenty of B-vitamins in a beer, and this is a good old trick used to add vitamins to orchids, wich are in need of these vitamins. But it is also a very good solution for bonsais as well. Remember to keep a beer for your self. Also humans needs B-vitamins! And now to the Superthrive question. You will only find out the real effect of this, by making your own experiences. I newer use it. The beer does it for me. I use the 1:1 beer and water blend, every time I spray leaves with water, for the first month after transplanting a bonsai. And that is two or tree times a week fo a month or so. In daily care, I use it frequently, in a milder blend. Especially Pines are good at taking up nutrients true their leaves, but it won´t harm any plants, but only do good. Sounds like a waste of beer, to me -- unless you use one of the Light (or LITE) beers. ;-) I have yet to find a definitive article that says that vitamins play ANY role in plant nutrition. I've found a few that say, "maybe," and "maybe IF." B-1 was touted heavily back in the 1930s, but then several controlled experiments failed to show any usefulness for it, and horticultural "science" generally stopped recommending it. The commercial hort industry -- never one to let go of any magical elixir -- has continued to tout for B-1, though, and since most growers of flowers and other decorative plants actually believe advertising hype, people continue to buy it. If you have a good scientific reference as to the efficacy of vitamins on plants, I would love to read it. Andy Walsh did a piece for us several years ago debunking B1; I've re-played it here at least once (we've had this debate before), so if you search for "Vitamin" and/or "B1" in our archives, you should find it. And as for Stupidthrive . . . Beer does kill snails, though, and the light mouthwash does just fine for that. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - The phrase 'sustainable growth' is an oxymoron. - Stephen Viederman ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] do plants use vitamins? (Yes they certainly do)
Instead of Beer one could use Beer Yeast that was used to make bread
in ancient times we find in dices at the supermatket and I am sure it contains B vitamines some people add to Beer also Theo Jim Lewis wrote: Yes, plants do have a need for vitamins. It is a small contribution to the overall health of the tree, where the major nutrients are the well-known NPK. But also microorganisms, and vitamins are a part of the palette of foods for plants. As well as the Mykhorriza fungi has influenze of the health of Pines and maybe other species. Vitamins can be added very simple, and the only vitamin of importance, is the B-vitamin. It is easily taken by the leaves and can be sprinkled on. Take a low alcoholic beer, and blend it with water 1:1. It is as simple as that. There are plenty of B-vitamins in a beer, and this is a good old trick used to add vitamins to orchids, wich are in need of these vitamins. But it is also a very good solution for bonsais as well. Remember to keep a beer for your self. Also humans needs B-vitamins! And now to the Superthrive question. You will only find out the real effect of this, by making your own experiences. I newer use it. The beer does it for me. I use the 1:1 beer and water blend, every time I spray leaves with water, for the first month after transplanting a bonsai. And that is two or tree times a week fo a month or so. In daily care, I use it frequently, in a milder blend. Especially Pines are good at taking up nutrients true their leaves, but it won´t harm any plants, but only do good. Sounds like a waste of beer, to me -- unless you use one of the Light (or LITE) beers. ;-) I have yet to find a definitive article that says that vitamins play ANY role in plant nutrition. I've found a few that say, "maybe," and "maybe IF." B-1 was touted heavily back in the 1930s, but then several controlled experiments failed to show any usefulness for it, and horticultural "science" generally stopped recommending it. The commercial hort industry -- never one to let go of any magical elixir -- has continued to tout for B-1, though, and since most growers of flowers and other decorative plants actually believe advertising hype, people continue to buy it. If you have a good scientific reference as to the efficacy of vitamins on plants, I would love to read it. Andy Walsh did a piece for us several years ago debunking B1; I've re-played it here at least once (we've had this debate before), so if you search for "Vitamin" and/or "B1" in our archives, you should find it. And as for Stupidthrive . . . Beer does kill snails, though, and the light mouthwash does just fine for that. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - The phrase 'sustainable growth' is an oxymoron. - Stephen Viederman ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] do plants use vitamins? (Yes they certainly do)
HI Beer yeast contains a lot
Vitamines Vitamin B1 Carbohydrate metabolism 3.2 mg Vitamin B2 Growth vitamin 0.9 mg Vitamin B6 Regulator of tissue and 0.6 mg protein metabolism Nicotinamide Pellagra protection 9.0 mg Pantothemic acid Anti-grey hair factor 1 1.7 mg and ..... the beer yeast cure against cancer .. http://www.karlloren.com/biopsy/book/p6.htm Jim Lewis wrote: Yes, plants do have a need for vitamins. It is a small contribution to the overall health of the tree, where the major nutrients are the well-known NPK. But also microorganisms, and vitamins are a part of the palette of foods for plants. As well as the Mykhorriza fungi has influenze of the health of Pines and maybe other species. Vitamins can be added very simple, and the only vitamin of importance, is the B-vitamin. It is easily taken by the leaves and can be sprinkled on. Take a low alcoholic beer, and blend it with water 1:1. It is as simple as that. There are plenty of B-vitamins in a beer, and this is a good old trick used to add vitamins to orchids, wich are in need of these vitamins. But it is also a very good solution for bonsais as well. Remember to keep a beer for your self. Also humans needs B-vitamins! And now to the Superthrive question. You will only find out the real effect of this, by making your own experiences. I newer use it. The beer does it for me. I use the 1:1 beer and water blend, every time I spray leaves with water, for the first month after transplanting a bonsai. And that is two or tree times a week fo a month or so. In daily care, I use it frequently, in a milder blend. Especially Pines are good at taking up nutrients true their leaves, but it won´t harm any plants, but only do good. Sounds like a waste of beer, to me -- unless you use one of the Light (or LITE) beers. ;-) I have yet to find a definitive article that says that vitamins play ANY role in plant nutrition. I've found a few that say, "maybe," and "maybe IF." B-1 was touted heavily back in the 1930s, but then several controlled experiments failed to show any usefulness for it, and horticultural "science" generally stopped recommending it. The commercial hort industry -- never one to let go of any magical elixir -- has continued to tout for B-1, though, and since most growers of flowers and other decorative plants actually believe advertising hype, people continue to buy it. If you have a good scientific reference as to the efficacy of vitamins on plants, I would love to read it. Andy Walsh did a piece for us several years ago debunking B1; I've re-played it here at least once (we've had this debate before), so if you search for "Vitamin" and/or "B1" in our archives, you should find it. And as for Stupidthrive . . . Beer does kill snails, though, and the light mouthwash does just fine for that. Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - The phrase 'sustainable growth' is an oxymoron. - Stephen Viederman ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] do plants use vitamins? (Yes they certainly do)
There are plenty of B-vitamins in a beer, and this is a good old trick
used to add vitamins to orchids, wich are in need of these vitamins. But it is also a very good solution for bonsais as well. Remember to keep a beer for your self. Also humans needs B-vitamins! I don't think beer would be absorbed very well by the foliage. Orchids have a special root tissue called vellamen that might soak beer up better, although frankly I'd rather just use a full-spectrum fertilizer and be done with it. Still, the IBC traditio nally has a great respect for beer, so you will fit in well here. I'll think of you next time I have one! Nina, who has sore muscles from putting her bonsai in their winter bed this weekend. ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Lisa Kanis++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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