Robert,

What you say is true, but this is not the application
the requestor had in mind. He wants a permanet tree
in his bathroom. He doesn't seem to care that the
environment is not suitable to growing bonsai.

Kitsune Miko
--- Robert Armas wrote:

I don't say neither advocate the use of bonsai as
decoration per se, but a
nice alcove with an styled japanese corner with
scroll and all can benefit
from the accent that a bonsai can create for
special ocassions only.

Robert Armas

---- Original Message -----
From: "Kitsune Miko"
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 5:06 PM
Subject: [IBC] bathroom bonsai


Bonsai are outdoor trees for the most part. To
consider one merely a decorating accent shows a
certain lack of appreciation for the art form.
The
growing conditions you described are not condusive
to
growing a tree. This is why there are no
suggestions
other than a plastic plant.

Kitsune Miko





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What you say is true, but this is not the application
the requestor had in mind. He wants a permanet tree
in his bathroom. He
doesn't seem to care that the
environment is not suitable to growing bonsai.


OTOH, if there is a good window and tons of light, why *not* have a
permanent/semi-permanent tropical tree there? I could see a ficus of some
sort, in a good draining soil. Could be happy with the humid air.

Let's remember, we all do bonsai for different reasons. Perhaps I wouldn't
put a bonsai in the 'loo, but what's to say it's wrong? I say live and let
live.

My 2 kiwi cents

Nic


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What you say is true, but this is not the application
the requestor had in mind. He wants a permanet tree
in his bathroom. He
doesn't seem to care that the
environment is not suitable to growing bonsai.


OTOH, if there is a good window and tons of light, why *not* have a
permanent/semi-permanent tropical tree there? I could see a ficus of some
sort, in a good draining soil. Could be happy with the humid air.

Let's remember, we all do bonsai for different reasons. Perhaps I wouldn't
put a bonsai in the 'loo, but what's to say it's wrong? I say live and let
live.

My 2 kiwi cents

Nic


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OK you say we all do bonsai for different reasons.
Some to collect and some to create, some to display in
bathrooms.

What’s wrong with a bathroom?

The atmosphere is not constant, one minute it is hot
and steamy then it cools off and dries out. I don’t
think this is a good arrangement for a bonsai. A
regular plant like a fern has a better chance of
survival than a bonsai in a small pot.

The writer says the bathroom is the most decorated
room in the house. In his message he sees the bonsai
as an accessory, not a living thing with needs. He
signs himself Druid, one who should be aware of the
needs of a product of mother earth.

I look at my bonsai as friends. I accept that I am
responsible for their well being, that I am the
caretaker. I respect them. They are, in a way, my
meditation or worship. There is a symbiotic
relationship where I gain peace from being with my
trees in exchange for their care.

Kitsune Miko


--- Nicolas Steenhout wrote:

What you say is true, but this is not the
application
the requestor had in mind. He wants a permanet
tree
in his bathroom. He
doesn't seem to care that the
environment is not suitable to growing bonsai.


OTOH, if there is a good window and tons of light,
why *not* have a
permanent/semi-permanent tropical tree there? I
could see a ficus of some
sort, in a good draining soil. Could be happy with
the humid air.

Let's remember, we all do bonsai for different
reasons. Perhaps I wouldn't
put a bonsai in the 'loo, but what's to say it's
wrong? I say live and let
live.

My 2 kiwi cents

Nic



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OK you say we all do bonsai for different reasons.
Some to collect and some to create, some to display in
bathrooms.

What’s wrong with a bathroom?

The atmosphere is not constant, one minute it is hot
and steamy then it cools off and dries out. I don’t
think this is a good arrangement for a bonsai. A
regular plant like a fern has a better chance of
survival than a bonsai in a small pot.

The writer says the bathroom is the most decorated
room in the house. In his message he sees the bonsai
as an accessory, not a living thing with needs. He
signs himself Druid, one who should be aware of the
needs of a product of mother earth.

I look at my bonsai as friends. I accept that I am
responsible for their well being, that I am the
caretaker. I respect them. They are, in a way, my
meditation or worship. There is a symbiotic
relationship where I gain peace from being with my
trees in exchange for their care.

Kitsune Miko


--- Nicolas Steenhout wrote:

What you say is true, but this is not the
application
the requestor had in mind. He wants a permanet
tree
in his bathroom. He
doesn't seem to care that the
environment is not suitable to growing bonsai.


OTOH, if there is a good window and tons of light,
why *not* have a
permanent/semi-permanent tropical tree there? I
could see a ficus of some
sort, in a good draining soil. Could be happy with
the humid air.

Let's remember, we all do bonsai for different
reasons. Perhaps I wouldn't
put a bonsai in the 'loo, but what's to say it's
wrong? I say live and let
live.

My 2 kiwi cents

Nic



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-----Original Message-----
From: Internet Bonsai Club ] On Behalf Of
Nicolas Steenhout
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 5:54 PM
To:
Subject: [IBC] bathroom bonsai

What you say is true, but this is not the application the requestor
had in mind. He wants a permanet tree in his bathroom. He doesn't
seem to care that the environment is not suitable to growing bonsai.


OTOH, if there is a good window and tons of light, why *not* have a
permanent/semi-permanent tropical tree there? I could see a ficus of some
sort, in a good draining soil. Could be happy with the humid air.

Let's remember, we all do bonsai for different reasons. Perhaps I wouldn't
put a bonsai in the 'loo, but what's to say it's wrong? I say live and let
live.

My 2 kiwi cents

Nic

Every winter, many of my tropicals have wintered in my naturally well-lit,
plus a skylight, bathroom.

With Supplemental lighting, everything loves it.

Last year, I experimented with using ambient lighting only. Ficus and Texas
Ebony were very happy. Jaboticaba tolerated it. Natal Plum had to be moved
to more light.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Internet Bonsai Club ] On Behalf Of
Nicolas Steenhout
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 5:54 PM
To:
Subject: [IBC] bathroom bonsai

What you say is true, but this is not the application the requestor
had in mind. He wants a permanet tree in his bathroom. He doesn't
seem to care that the environment is not suitable to growing bonsai.


OTOH, if there is a good window and tons of light, why *not* have a
permanent/semi-permanent tropical tree there? I could see a ficus of some
sort, in a good draining soil. Could be happy with the humid air.

Let's remember, we all do bonsai for different reasons. Perhaps I wouldn't
put a bonsai in the 'loo, but what's to say it's wrong? I say live and let
live.

My 2 kiwi cents

Nic

Every winter, many of my tropicals have wintered in my naturally well-lit,
plus a skylight, bathroom.

With Supplemental lighting, everything loves it.

Last year, I experimented with using ambient lighting only. Ficus and Texas
Ebony were very happy. Jaboticaba tolerated it. Natal Plum had to be moved
to more light.

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The bathroom is a pefect room for a tropical type Bonsai if you hve
sufficient light. I keep serissa in my bathroom. But Ficus and Bougenvillea do just
as well. Dwarf bamboo works great also.

SteveW


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The bathroom is a pefect room for a tropical type Bonsai if you hve
sufficient light. I keep serissa in my bathroom. But Ficus and Bougenvillea do just
as well. Dwarf bamboo works great also.

SteveW


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Try a Jade. If you get some decent sunlight through the window or supplement with a grow light it should be fine. Water it once a week and you'll be good to go. Not necessarily a "real" bonsai, but if you shape it via pinching it will be close enough for your purposes. If you can get enough light to it, the leaves will take on a really nice reddish tint on the edges. Sorry, no berries or flowers though.

Jeff Isom
Cleveland, OH / Sunset Zone 39

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Try a Jade. If you get some decent sunlight through the window or supplement with a grow light it should be fine. Water it once a week and you'll be good to go. Not necessarily a "real" bonsai, but if you shape it via pinching it will be close enough for your purposes. If you can get enough light to it, the leaves will take on a really nice reddish tint on the edges. Sorry, no berries or flowers though.

Jeff Isom
Cleveland, OH / Sunset Zone 39

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You must admit that growing a tree in a pot is not very natural in the
first place. Cutting roots, pinching, fertilising, "Superthriving", all
these operations are not natural. If you really were aware of the needs
of a tree, you would let it grow in nature, not in a pot, growing to its
natural full size. In the end, both situations are unatural and humans
must take mesures to allow the plant to survive, either in a pot outside
or in the bathroom. And, maybe this gentleman meditates while in the
bathroom. I do a lot of reading there myself!


Le 23 Sep 2004 15:20:00 -0700, Kitsune Miko a écrit:

OK you say we all do bonsai for different reasons.
Some to collect and some to create, some to display in
bathrooms.

What’s wrong with a bathroom?

The atmosphere is not constant, one minute it is hot
and steamy then it cools off and dries out. I don’t
think this is a good arrangement for a bonsai. A
regular plant like a fern has a better chance of
survival than a bonsai in a small pot.

The writer says the bathroom is the most decorated
room in the house. In his message he sees the bonsai
as an accessory, not a living thing with needs. He
signs himself Druid, one who should be aware of the
needs of a product of mother earth.

I look at my bonsai as friends. I accept that I am
responsible for their well being, that I am the
caretaker. I respect them. They are, in a way, my
meditation or worship. There is a symbiotic
relationship where I gain peace from being with my
trees in exchange for their care.

Kitsune Miko


--- Nicolas Steenhout wrote:

What you say is true, but this is not the
application
the requestor had in mind. He wants a permanet
tree
in his bathroom. He
doesn't seem to care that the
environment is not suitable to growing bonsai.


OTOH, if there is a good window and tons of light,
why *not* have a
permanent/semi-permanent tropical tree there? I
could see a ficus of some
sort, in a good draining soil. Could be happy with
the humid air.

Let's remember, we all do bonsai for different
reasons. Perhaps I wouldn't
put a bonsai in the 'loo, but what's to say it's
wrong? I say live and let
live.

My 2 kiwi cents

Nic



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